Look, we just beat the #1 team in the country......

#76
#76
BigHerm3000 said:
No it's been four, and if you cant admit that as being unreasonable I guess you are right, we will have to agree to disagree.
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What is a reasonable length of time to rebuild a basketball program (considering our facilities and money)?
 
#77
#77
awebb7 said:
What is a reasonable length of time to rebuild a basketball program (considering our facilities and money)?
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It depends on what you mean by rebuild? Are you talking about strictly post season success and discrediting everything else CBP has done?
 
#78
#78
BigHerm3000 said:
It depends on what you mean by rebuild? Are you talking about strictly post season success and discrediting everything else CBP has done?
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Tourney success (conf and NCAA) validates what you do during the year. He has been quite successful during the regular season and has raised expectations and money, hasn't won the SEC tourney and we have underperformed in the AA. It doesn't discredit the rest to say that the resume has yet to completely match the hype.
 
#79
#79
BigHerm3000 said:
It depends on what you mean by rebuild? Are you talking about strictly post season success and discrediting everything else CBP has done?
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As I have said on this board multiple times, post season success is all that really matters.
 
#80
#80
awebb7 said:
As I have said on this board multiple times, post season success is all that really matters.
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I'm glad the majority of Tennessee fans don't have this same opinion, and I am especially glad you aren't in Mike Hamilton's shoes.
 
#81
#81
BigHerm3000 said:
I'm glad the majority of Tennessee fans don't have this same opinion, and I am especially glad you aren't in Mike Hamilton's shoes.
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Every single Tennessee Alum I spend time with expects more in March.

And I believe that Mr. Hamilton does as well.
 
#82
#82
BigHerm3000 said:
No it's been four, and if you cant admit that as being unreasonable I guess you are right, we will have to agree to disagree.
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He's in his fifth year.

I'm not unreasonable. It's not even just that we've lost in the first or second round, even; it's that we've seen enough Bruceball now to be reach some conclusions about it -- primarily, that everything revolves around points off turnovers and the three. Which is great when it's working, but there's no way you can win four or five games in a row in the tournament playing just that way. You have to have a plan B, and by now we all know that Pearl doesn't. Either the threes fall or we lose.

I'm not advocating that he be fired or anything. I just think five years is long enough to figure out where Pearl's ceiling as a coach probably is, and unfortunately it seems to be considerably lower than it did when he came in and worked miracles with Buzz Peterson's team of rejects. I'm more disappointed about it than anything else.
 
#83
#83
awebb7 said:
Every single Tennessee Alum I spend time with expects more in March.

And I believe that Mr. Hamilton does as well.
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Most of the people I spend time with are logical. Not even taking in to account that Pearl has only had 4 seasons here, crazy stuff happens come March. We keep our program on top and moving forward like I believe it is, the balls will bounce our way soon enough.
 
#84
#84
BigHerm3000 said:
Most of the people I spend time with are logical. Not even taking in to account that Pearl has only had 4 seasons here, crazy stuff happens come March. We keep our program on top and moving forward like I believe it is, the balls will bounce our way soon enough.
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I'm as logical as they come. I also don't like counting on the balls bouncing our way. Five years is enough to turn around a football program, basketball can be done considerably less.
 
#86
#86
By the way can everyone that thinks the post season is the only thing that matters stop talking about 5 years this and 5 years that? BP hasn't even played 5 postseasons yet.
 
#89
#89
BigHerm3000 said:
Most of the people I spend time with are logical. Not even taking in to account that Pearl has only had 4 seasons here, crazy stuff happens come March. We keep our program on top and moving forward like I believe it is, the balls will bounce our way soon enough.
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The reason why the same coaches are in the Elite Eight and the Final Four year after year is because they don't rely on crazy stuff happening, balls bouncing their way, their team shooting out of their minds, etc.
 
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#90
Vercingetorix said:
The reason why the same coaches are in the Elite Eight and the Final Four year after year is because they don't rely on crazy stuff happening, balls bouncing their way, their team shooting out of their minds, etc.
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They are also coaching at historical powerhouses. Not to mention they have had more than 4 years to do it. WHo are you referring to specifically?
 
#92
#92
VolDad said:
Hamilton canned Fulmer for his lack of post season success.
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After what, 16 years? Bit of a difference don't you think? Not to mention Fulmer wasn't even bringing in winning seasons, which im sure Hamilton took into consideration as well.
 
#93
#93
BigHerm3000 said:
Most of the people I spend time with are logical. Not even taking in to account that Pearl has only had 4 seasons here, crazy stuff happens come March. We keep our program on top and moving forward like I believe it is, the balls will bounce our way soon enough.
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Yeah, the winner is always a huge surprise. It is like the Lotto.
 
#94
#94
BigHerm3000 said:
They are also coaching at historical powerhouses. Not to mention they have had more than 4 years to do it. WHo are you referring to specifically?
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How about Rick Barnes at Texas? Not an historical powerhouse. Took over at a football school and went to the Final Four in his fifth year. Two more Elite Eights since then. Tournament success isn't an accident, and it doesn't only happen at Duke and North Carolina and Kansas.
 
#98
#98
orangetanker11 said:
I want to get a few opinions on something real quick... In your opinion, what is a bigger victory?

- The win yesterday vs #1 Kansas
- UT reaching the Elite 8
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Given this particular team, I gotta say I'm hard pressed to remember a bigger win. I felt more like I was watching the 85 Sugarbowl. Having never experienced the Elite 8 as a UT fan, it's hard to make a judgement. Sure, if we play a team of Kansas' stature at the E8, and win, I guess that would be a bigger win at a more clutch time. Right now, I'd like to beat Auburn. I don't think it's fair to compare one huge win in the regular season to the 25 to 30 games this team would have to win to make it to the E8, but that was the question. GBO!
 
#99
#99
Vercingetorix said:
How about Rick Barnes at Texas? Not an historical powerhouse. Took over at a football school and went to the Final Four in his fifth year. Two more Elite Eights since then. Tournament success isn't an accident, and it doesn't only happen at Duke and North Carolina and Kansas.
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Donovan had success within 4 years too
 
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