Lunardi has us in the last 4 in as of today

[bleedingTNorange]

How's NCST been doing?

Better than expected, we'll see how they hold up in the ACC this year.

They had a huge opportunity against Missouri, were actually up big and blew the game, would've been a big win.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Wake doesn't qualify as a good win?

No. Their RPI isn't very good

 

[VolGee4]

How's NCST been doing?

Only lost to Mizzou since our game and had a lead in the 2nd half. We need them to stay in the RPI top 100 which they probably will with an ACC schedule.

 

[SlyStone]

Didn't know it was March already.

 

[BruinVol]

Your post would hold a bit more weight if you could get the numbers right.

That's 19-11, 30 games, no tusculum.

Not sure how hard it is to read 19total wins.
That's 18 not counting tusculum.

It's pretty simple to read.


19 total wins=zero shot

20 total wins=outside looking in without 2 wins in SEC tourney

21 total wins= barely in and sweating it

22 total wins= let's talk seed

Total means including tusculum

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Not sure how hard it is to read 19total wins.
That's 18 not counting tusculum.

It's pretty simple to read.


19 total wins=zero shot

20 total wins=outside looking in without 2 wins in SEC tourney

21 total wins= barely in and sweating it

22 total wins= let's talk seed

Total means including tusculum

Who ever said anything about19 total wins?

You?

 

[BruinVol]

Who ever said anything about19 total wins?

You?

Yes and you keep disagreeing but then changing it to 20.

19 total wins is garbage. Which is what I said from the start and you disagreed with

 

[BruinVol]

An expected RPI of 50 and NO SHOT?

I'll stick with experts opinions, sorry bruin.

This was your response to my 19total wins had zero shot post.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I agree, that 18-12 there's very little chance.

19-11: and I think there's a pretty good chance we are in. Could be a case of not losing the opener in Nashville to a Mississippi State, but hard to tell at this point.

20-10: I think we are in regardless of what happens in the SECT, we will be playing for seeding in Nashville.

Obviously that goes for any better record as well.

 

[BruinVol]

I agree, that 18-12 there's very little chance.

19-11: and I think there's a pretty good chance we are in. Could be a case of not losing the opener in Nashville to a Mississippi State, but hard to tell at this point.

20-10: I think we are in regardless of what happens in the SECT, we will be playing for seeding in Nashville.

Obviously that goes for any better record as well.

Not a huge different of opinion here but at 19-11 I think we have to win at least 1 and more than likely 2 in the SEC tourney


Edit: damn this tusculum game is confusing the hell out of me.

31 total gameS????

If so 19-12 has zero shot to get in

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Yes and you keep disagreeing but then changing it to 20.

19 total wins is garbage. Which is what I said from the start and you disagreed with

My apologies, I thought it was clear what freak and I were discussing when you joined the conversation. He was saying 19 wins not counting tusculum.

I'm in agreement, 18-12 likely wouldn't get us in without some major work in Nashville.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Not a huge different of opinion here but at 19-11 I think we have to win at least 1 and more than likely 2 in the SEC tourney


Edit: damn this tusculum game is confusing the hell out of me.

31 total gameS????

If so 19-12 has zero shot to get in

19-12 is 18 D1 wins, I have already agreed with this that it's a slim chance.

20-11, is the "19" wins that I have been referencing the last couple pages as quite possibly being enough.

 

[BruinVol]

19-12 is 18 D1 wins, I have already agreed with this that it's a slim chance.

20-11, is the "19" wins that I have been referencing the last couple pages as quite possibly being enough.

K. Now we are on the same page.

We both agree 19total wins is out.

At 20 total wins I don't think we are in as good of shape as you do. 1 or 2 SEC tourney wins would be needed.

 

[volbeast33]

That's not at all what it means. It means, the RPI can change some, but unless some crazy unforeseen even happens, or every team we've played losses out...that number is going to be close.

On the flip side, if say UTEP ends up being good, and a few others are better than projections, that number will rise for us.

It's dropped two points now....who is to say it won't drop another ten points by the end....I remember more than a few times last yr that we didn't gain as much of a jump in rpi as expected after a win

 

[VolGee4]

It's dropped two points now....who is to say it won't drop another ten points by the end....I remember more than a few times last yr that we didn't gain as much of a jump in rpi as expected after a win

To me, the RPI is garbage. It is flawed as we know. Obviously, it is a metric used as a guide, but the committee obviously threw it out when putting in MTSU last year.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

K. Now we are on the same page.

We both agree 19total wins is out.

At 20 total wins I don't think we are in as good of shape as you do. 1 or 2 SEC tourney wins would be needed.

At 19 total wins we would have to make it to the sect championship game to have a legit shot IMO. Not impossible, but I would prefer not to go that route.

At 20 total wins, we probably need to win the first SEC game to feel good. It would be against a bottom dweller with a bad RPI, the loss would be bad.

You check out the 10 seed Oklahoma resume I posted? In comparison to what ours would be at 19-12?

 

[bleedingTNorange]

It's dropped two points now....who is to say it won't drop another ten points by the end....I remember more than a few times last yr that we didn't gain as much of a jump in rpi as expected after a win

Who's to say it won't rise 30 spots? Xavier, UTEP and Nc state may go undefeated the rest of the way! The likelihood of all the things happening needed for their projection to be off by 10 is very slim.

As expected by US, rpiforecast was accurate on a very consistent basis. Obviously as the season goes on the more accurate it becomes, but they're pretty darn good.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Accept it folks. We are not an elite basketball program by any stretch of the imagination. Let's go to the NIT and win a few this year rather than one and done in the NCAA.

 

[SDV]

Accept it folks. We are not an elite basketball program by any stretch of the imagination. Let's go to the NIT and win a few this year rather than one and done in the NCAA.

Yeah lets just accept mediocrity as our ceiling. Good grief

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Yeah lets just accept mediocrity as our ceiling. Good grief

I'm not saying at all what you seem to intimate. I am saying that right now, we are not an elite program. Your opinion differ? Your post is typical of those that live in the clouds and believe that we could beat the Lakers or Heat on any given night. Reality check. We aren't that good.

Now.. do I accept mediocrity? No, not really, but I don't have much choice or say in the matter now do I? I can be a fan and support the Vols like I do every day, and expressing an opinion that I'd rather go to the NIT and win THAT tournament than go out in the first round of the NCAA doesn't diminish my VFL stature one bit.

 

[vols 30]

Accept it folks. We are not an elite basketball program by any stretch of the imagination. Let's go to the NIT and win a few this year rather than one and done in the NCAA.

Recruits know who goes to the NCAA on a regular basis. It's important to get there, and take your chances. Can't move forward as a program settling for the NIT.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Accept it folks. We are not an elite basketball program by any stretch of the imagination. Let's go to the NIT and win a few this year rather than one and done in the NCAA.

How did winning the nit multiple times benefit South Carolina?

 

[volbeast33]

I'm not saying at all what you seem to intimate. I am saying that right now, we are not an elite program. Your opinion differ? Your post is typical of those that live in the clouds and believe that we could beat the Lakers or Heat on any given night. Reality check. We aren't that good.

Now.. do I accept mediocrity? No, not really, but I don't have much choice or say in the matter now do I? I can be a fan and support the Vols like I do every day, and expressing an opinion that I'd rather go to the NIT and win THAT tournament than go out in the first round of the NCAA doesn't diminish my VFL stature one

Good grief why not have the players show up and play my rec team...chances are 100% that they will win that one. You can't be afraid to lose and our players will never ever be elite with the mentality u just displayed.

 

[gunner]

Lmao, we are 8-4, having what most would call a bad start, are still projected in the dance...and you declare, "we MAY have a chance"?

Agenda much?

This team is dancing, I would be willing to bet anything on this, any takers? Gotta get one last bet in before the new year, my resolution is gonna be no more betting!

Bad losses to UTEP, Xaiver, and NC State will be difficult to overcome. But, the Vols must beat some remainig ranked teams on their schedule.

They could help themselves a lot by finishing at least second the SEC East. There are still plenty of chances to make up for the poor start.

But, they can't afford anymore bad loses.

 

[Stoked]

Bad losses to UTEP, Xaiver, and NC State will be difficult to overcome. But, the Vols must beat some remainig ranked teams on their schedule.

They could help themselves a lot by finishing at least second the SEC East. There are still plenty of chances to make up for the poor start.

But, they can't afford anymore bad loses.

Xavier on the road isn't a bad loss, UTEP is, and NCST most likely won't be a bad loss by the end of the year (as ugly as that game was, it's still not a bad loss.)