Manipulated Mike: 0-2 at the negotiation table.

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#101

If Memphis offered him the $3 mil per that was rumored, I'd let Bruce boogie on down to Beale Street.

If I'm shelling out $3 mil annually, I'm getting someone better than Pearl.
 
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#102
JZVOL said:
Big Orange Expres said:
Did he not have a stable contract?
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Not if the market says he deserves more. And it appears that Memphis was prepared to up the ante.

We still don't know the #'s of Bruce's new deal. I doubt it is in the 3m range and will be surprised if it is.

I believe it will be in the 2.3 - 2.5 range, which keeps him at the same level he has been in the SEC. I think that is fair. If he wants to go above that level he will produce more.
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#103
JZVOL said:
Why would a coach call UT asking to be the HC when there is already one under contract?

I guess there are a lot of coaches who have called UNC to submit resumes in case Roy Williams dies in a plane crash.
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I never said any coach was calling UT asking to be the HC.

My point was, if CBP leaves for another program, who is a legitimate prospect to fill the HC position?

No one has named a prospect on this thread! Not one!
 
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#104
Big Orange Expres said:
I never said any coach was calling UT asking to be the HC.

My point was, if CBP leaves for another program, who is a legitimate prospect to fill the HC position?

No one has named a prospect on this thread! Not one!
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there was a short list thread...might want to check there.:dunno:

I'm still waiting to hear who offered BP?
 
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#105
cd12 said:
there was a short list thread...might want to check there.:dunno:

I'm still waiting to hear who offered BP?
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I said on this thread. Everyone believes he is easy to replace, with the same results we have had.

I am just asking someone to present a credible prospect.

But that's ok, keep talking around the question.
 
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#106
Big Orange Expres said:
I said on this thread. Everyone believes he is easy to replace, with the same results we have had.

I am just asking someone to present a credible prospect.

But that's ok, keep talking around the question.
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I was just offering a suggestion...thats ok keep avioding my question.
 
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#107
cd12 said:
I was just offering a suggestion...thats ok keep avioding my question.
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Be careful. He's a Pearlophile. If you ignore the fact he's either too lazy or too stupid to read a thread that answers the question he's now asked 3,896 times, he will threaten to join Volquest.
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hatvol96 said:
Be careful. He's a Pearlophile. If you ignore the fact he's either too lazy or too stupid to read a thread that answers the question he's now asked 3,896 times, he will threaten to join Volquest.
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I've read the thread about the short list.

Mark Few
Travis Ford
Jay Wright
Sean Miller
etc., etc.

Which one of these is credible, that's all I ask.

Few is not leaving Gonzaga, Jay Wright is not leaving Villanova, Sean Miller is not leaving Xavier, except for Pitt, and not interested in Travis Ford.

I guess we will wait and see where Memphis eventually finds their coach. That will probably be a good barometer.
 
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#109
Big Orange Expres said:
I've read the thread about the short list.

Mark Few
Travis Ford
Jay Wright
Sean Miller
etc., etc.

Which one of these is credible, that's all I ask.

Few is not leaving Gonzaga, Jay Wright is not leaving Villanova, Sean Miller is not leaving Xavier, except for Pitt, and not interested in Travis Ford.

I guess we will wait and see where Memphis eventually finds their coach. That will probably be a good barometer.
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Sean Miller is happy and content at X. That said, he's not finishing his career in Cincinnati.
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#110
Jaytrain5 said:
If I'm shelling out $3 mil annually, I'm getting someone better than Pearl.
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This is a good point on the surface. However, when you consider that UT is not necessarily a desirable place for coaches to go, it may take $4 mil to get a coach that is the same calliber as Bruce Pearl. This may be an irrelevant comparison, but ask Urban Meyer how much it would take for him to go to Vanderbilt. It would take way way way more money for him to go to Vandy than it would for him to stay at Florida.
 
#111
#111
Big Orange Expres said:
I never said any coach was calling UT asking to be the HC.

My point was, if CBP leaves for another program, who is a legitimate prospect to fill the HC position?

No one has named a prospect on this thread! Not one!
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You asked "who's knocking UT's door down?" That's a stupid question with no answer when there is a coach in place.

And I'm sorry if I don't feel the need to search names for a hypothetical list for a hypothetical situation to make you happy.
 
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#112
Big Orange Expres said:
JZVOL said:
Not if the market says he deserves more. And it appears that Memphis was prepared to up the ante.

We still don't know the #'s of Bruce's new deal. I doubt it is in the 3m range and will be surprised if it is.

I believe it will be in the 2.3 - 2.5 range, which keeps him at the same level he has been in the SEC. I think that is fair. If he wants to go above that level he will produce more.
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The market didn't. Does Memphis make up the entire CBB market?
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#114
SamRebel35 said:
This is a good point on the surface. However, when you consider that UT is not necessarily a desirable place for coaches to go, it may take $4 mil to get a coach that is the same calliber as Bruce Pearl. This may be an irrelevant comparison, but ask Urban Meyer how much it would take for him to go to Vanderbilt. It would take way way way more money for him to go to Vandy than it would for him to stay at Florida.
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Great Point!
 
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#120
hatvol96 said:
Because it justifies paying Final Four money for a Sweet 16 coach. That's all they're looking for.
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That's what these guys are not getting. I'm happy with Pearl and like him overall.

But he isn't an elite coach and doesn't deserve elite money.

But then again I'm sure you want us to go back to Buzz Ball...
 
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#123
hatvol96 said:
Because it justifies paying Final Four money for a Sweet 16 coach. That's all they're looking for.
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You're assuming that all teams start from the same level playing field. This is not so. It is going to take UT a lot more money to make it to the Final 4 than it will to take UNC. UNC is much more desirable. I would coach for them at half the price that I would coach at UT.
 
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#124
SamRebel35 said:
My point made since to me, but since I am the author of it, I can't see where you might have a disagreement with it. Do you have any criticism other than "Not really?"
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Sure. There is no way it would take 4 Mil to get a coach that can take us to the Sweet Sixteen.

Comparing Urban to Pearl and Vandy football to UTBB just doesn't work.

The facilities, money and administration make this an attractive job. Is it an elite destination? No, but it is a place a quality coach, other than Pearl, can have success.
 
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#125
SamRebel35 said:
You're assuming that all teams start from the same level playing field. This is not so. It is going to take UT a lot more money to make it to the Final 4 than it will to take UNC. UNC is much more desirable. I would coach for them at half the price that I would coach at UT.
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Did it take George Mason more money than North Carolina to make the FF?
 
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