Mass Shooting in Atlanta

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Tastylicks said:
No, its really stupid to bemoan voting whilst simultaneously holding up the 2nd Amendment of the American Constitution as a moral compass.

The 2nd Amendment and the American Constitution are both results of............voting.
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Ironically, guns played a large part in the American Constitution ever existing.
 
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luthervol said:
I remember it fairly well and read a couple of things on it today.
The guy was nuts (which is legal) but he did participate in illegal activities.
The agencies made several mistakes and did several things horribly wrong.
The good thing is that it was heard in a public court, the mistakes were admitted, and corrective actions were taken.
That's actually a pretty good example of a well functioning government.
I would be the last person to ever claim our government/country is perfect. There always has been and there always will be lots of room for improvement. I've never been a big flag waver.
I've never understood those who love the country but hate the government.
I view them as fairly equal. There have been plenty of times when I would give the government the nod, and plenty of times when I would give the country the nod.
But they ultimately have to move together.
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He was fringe but many who live in secluded areas like that are. But the question is were people held accountable? The family was compensated, or what was left of it but was anyone really held accountable?
 
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utvolpj said:
So all the atrocities committed throughout history were moral at one time?
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Slavery was certainly more moral 3000 years ago than it is today. Don't you think?
Showing a little cleavage is certainly more moral today than it was 140 years ago.
Saying damn on TV is certainly more moral today than it was 50 years ago.
Saying colored person is certainly less moral today than is was 40 years ago.
Marrying a 14 year old was certainly more moral 300 years ago than it is today.

Does anyone actually believe that morality doesn't change over time?
 
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KB5252 said:
He was fringe but many who live in secluded areas like that are. But the question is were people held accountable? The family was compensated, or what was left of it but was anyone really held accountable?
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Probably not enough, but certainly more than you would find in similar situations in most other countries.
 
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luthervol said:
Slavery was certainly more moral 3000 years ago than it is today. Don't you think?
Showing a little cleavage is certainly more moral today than it was 140 years ago.
Saying damn on TV is certainly more moral today than it was 50 years ago.
Saying colored person is certainly less moral today than is was 40 years ago.
Marrying a 14 year old was certainly more moral 300 years ago than it is today.

Does anyone actually believe that morality doesn't change over time?
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Holding people in bondage as property has never been moral, only justified by a society that needed the labor.
 
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luthervol said:
So what is a "moral" amount of interaction to show between a couple on primetime network TV?
I'm going to love this................
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hog88 said:
Slavery was moral, women forbidden from owning property and voting was moral, Japanese internment was moral? Shall I continue?
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Curious as to your answer? Anyone's answer...............
 
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hog88 said:
There is nothing moral or immoral about that. It’s a stupid questIon.
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lol.........good dodge
Would it be immoral to show a person having sex with a cow during primetime network TV?

I always have to take it to the absurd with you in order to get you out of your "absolutes".
 
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luthervol said:
lol.........good dodge
Would it be immoral to show a person having sex with a cow during primetime network TV?

I always have to take it to the absurd with you in order to get you out of your "absolutes".
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Having sex with a cow would be immoral because a cow (unless it’s Oprah) cannot consent.

Showing it on TV has nothing to do with morals.
 
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hog88 said:
Having sex with a cow would be immoral because a cow (unless it’s Oprah) cannot consent.

Showing it on TV has nothing to do with morals.
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We are talking about what is viewed as moral and immoral.
Is showing two consenting adults engaged in sex on primetime network TV a moral or immoral decision by network execs?
 
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hog88 said:
Again, always been immoral because a 14yo cannot consent.
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Who says a 14 year old cannot consent?

What if the parent's of the 14 year old gave their blessings and the 14 year old was willing?

Is it immoral to marry a 16 year old? If so, has it always been?

Is it immoral to marry a 17 year old? If so, has it always been? (please don't tell my mom!!)
 
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