Massive FBI Raid on Islamic Slaughterhouse Mystifies Tiny Illinois Town

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TennTradition said:
Excellent, then we need no class disruptions for that. Unfortunately, that is not the same the Mulsims are called to do. They are not only asked to keep in constant communication by opening themselves to the spirit through silent (open) prayer ... they are asked to face in a certain direction and follow a certain protocol. The Christians can pray without ceasing throughout the class through silent connection and the Muslims can hit the floor of the classroom (or in a room that is reserved for them since that might be disruptive), as they are each called to do.
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But if the Christian child prays out loud, they will be stopped. Remember we have to also include the Jewish child also. There prayers are not tolerated in school. But the Muslim child can do what they want to. I have first hand imformation because I get all the federal guidelines on what is and is not allowed.

It really goes deeper but I'm sure you don't want to stay up all night to discuss it. I'm on Fall Break this week so I can stay online longer than usual. Oh, and I'm not a student. I sit behind the Big desk!
 
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BigPapaVol said:
But you're definitely understating the tacit approval of millions upon millions of Muslims and their governments.
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Yep...I actually started to make an analogy to the Russians under the Soviets. Folks can have a lot of fear and hate that can evaporate under new leadership or under a new way of looking at things.

There is tacit approval...they could stop a lot and don't. That's the bad side of us all, really...particularly when you don't want to lose your head.
 
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7thgroupvolfan said:
Its funny how your talking to me differently after I mention my experience in the military. I can tell you that it is a REAL threat. There are over a billion muslims in the world. 500 million want to kill you and my family. That is no joke, that is the terrible facts.
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I already knew you were once in the military (7th group and previous conversations gave that away)...I'm talking to you differently because you actually started talking to me differently...such as not calling me 19. I'm going to make some jokes, because that's what I do....
 
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Oldvol75 said:
But if the Christian child prays out loud, they will be stopped. Remember we have to also include the Jewish child also. There prayers are not tolerated in school. But the Muslim child can do what they want to. I have first hand imformation because I get all the federal guidelines on what is and is not allowed.

It really goes deeper but I'm sure you don't want to stay up all night to discuss it. I'm on Fall Break this week so I can stay online longer than usual. Oh, and I'm not a student. I sit behind the Big desk!
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I know that desk...I used to have to sit beside it all the time. :)

Are Christians and Jews really stopped in today's classrooms from saying a private and quiet prayer? As long as it is conducted in a manner that minimizes disruption given the requirements of the religion, I can't imagine they can really be stopped without a lawsuit. I could get behind raising some hay about that one.....
 
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TennTradition said:
I know that desk...I used to have to sit beside it all the time. :)

Are Christians and Jews really stopped in today's classrooms from saying a private and quiet prayer? As long as it is conducted in a manner that minimizes disruption given the requirements of the religion, I can't imagine they can really be stopped without a lawsuit. I could get behind raising some hay about that one.....
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First of all they could never stop a child from praying silently. Because they would never know. But that same child is not permitted to sit in a classroom and recite a prayer aloud. That brings in the seperation of church and state people. There are states that do allow teaching the Bible as a course but no prostylizing (sp) is allowed.
 
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TennTradition said:
I already knew you were once in the military (7th group and previous conversations gave that away)...I'm talking to you differently because you actually started talking to me differently...such as not calling me 19. I'm going to make some jokes, because that's what I do....
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What do you know about 7thGroup?
 
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TennTradition said:
There is a loose network (and sometimes more formalized, I'm sure) and it takes advantage of those uneducated individuals and pushes the religion that they are taught to an unfortunate and obviously wrong extreme.
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That is a very "loose" description of what we have going on. Feel free to join the rest of us in the real world.
 
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7thgroupvolfan said:
What do you know about 7thGroup?
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Not much. It sounds like a military organization...special forces, something along those lines. I remember following conversations you had on here with others about it. We've never really talked, but I had you pegged for someone around my age with military experience...can't cite specific data to back up why.
 
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beergood said:
That is a very "loose" description of what we have going on. Feel free to join the rest of us in the real world.
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What's going on? What is this clearly defined enemy that we can rout out....the enemy that is so formally organized that its leadership is obvious and clear, its bases of operations mapped out in crystal clear detail, its members clearly isolated from those that aren't on their team directly, etc.....

I may not have all the facts or be privy to all the intelligence, but I assure you I don't live in a fantasy land.
 
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TennTradition said:
What's going on? What is this clearly defined enemy that we can rout out....the enemy that is so formally organized that its leadership is obvious and clear, its bases of operations mapped out in crystal clear detail, its members clearly isolated from those that aren't on their team directly, etc.....

I may not have all the facts or be privy to all the intelligence, but I assure you I don't live in a fantasy land.
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Clearly defined enemy? Seriously? Say,for example, there are 250 million Muslims that give us the stink eye. Do you think they they are going to don official military uniforms and fight toe to toe, or wear burkas and blow themselves up in a school? Which is it, from your experience and what you have seen in the news?
 
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TennTradition said:
Not much. It sounds like a military organization...special forces, something along those lines. I remember following conversations you had on here with others about it. We've never really talked, but I had you pegged for someone around my age with military experience...can't cite specific data to back up why.
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Thank You or playing. Have a good night
 
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TennTradition said:
What is this clearly defined enemy that we can rout out....the enemy that is so formally organized that its leadership is obvious and clear, its bases of operations mapped out in crystal clear detail, its members clearly isolated from those that aren't on their team directly, etc.....
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Thats the entire point 7th has been trying to make. You, me, no one else knows just who is involved. For all we know, it may be the guy next door. Because they are just the opposite of everything you just described. Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing!
 
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beergood said:
Clearly defined enemy? Seriously? Say,for example, there are 250 million Muslims that give us the stink eye. Do you think they they are going to don official military uniforms and fight toe to toe, or wear burkas and blow themselves up in a school? Which is it, from your experience and what you have seen in the news?
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My point is that they are not clearly defined, are you saying they are?
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Thats the entire point 7th has been trying to make. You, me, no one else knows just who is involved. For all we know, it may be the guy next door. Because they are just the opposite of everything you just described. Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing!
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I get that...but that doesn't mean that I believe every Muslim wants me to die just because some do and I can't tell which ones.
 
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TennTradition said:
My point is that they are not clearly defined, are you saying they are?
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Missed the sarcasm...

So what do you do against an enemy force that is not clearly defined, and has the implied approval of their big money backers and religious leaders?
 
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