Matt Campbell (Iowa State)

[govols105]

No. Hes not a home run hire.

 

[Smokey Pride]

I just watched the highlights of their game with OU. He went absolutely nuts when OU jumped offsides on 4th and 2. He definitely has fire!

Dude has tiger blood in his veins. I don't know if he's the guy but I love the passion.

 

[OrangeTsar]

If Cutcliffe died, his 4 day old corpse could out coach Pruitt.

Fulmer will not bring Cutcliffe back and he wouldn’t come anyway. Cutcliffe would make us respectable in year one which would just reinforce what many of us suspect. Cutcliffe was the secret behind Fulmer’s apparent success in his glory years. Phil cannot allow that

 

[Noggin]

IT would be real nice if Fulmer would call this man and see if he would be interested in taking the UT job after this year..he would be a hell of a hire bar none....still young...Iowa state wins the Big 12 if they beat WV to.

Tennessee already has a coach and his name is Jeremy Pruitt. Pruitt gets it.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Fulmer will not bring Cutcliffe back and he wouldn’t come anyway. Cutcliffe would make us respectable in year one which would just reinforce what many of us suspect. Cutcliffe was the secret behind Fulmer’s apparent success in his glory years. Phil cannot allow that

What made them successful together was that Cut wasn’t afraid to play bad cop to Fulmer’s good cop. They meshed well together that way.

 

[Birdie]

Since firing Dooley, with all the buyouts, our coaches have cost us approximately $11.45M/yr on average.

Offer Campbell $6-7M to come here. If he turns us down publicly, who cares! We can't become a bigger punchline than we are. You want a proven HC then you're gonna have to over overpay and over paying for someone like Campbell is still cheaper than what we have been doing. It is financially more prudent to overpay for a coach than continue down the same path we have been on.

 

[sonofUT62]

What made them successful together was that Cut wasn’t afraid to play bad cop to Fulmer’s good cop. They meshed well together that way.

Ainge being interviewed about his first practice with Cut is hysterical. He definitely knew that there was a new sheriff in town.

 

[Sandman 423]

Fulmer will not bring Cutcliffe back and he wouldn’t come anyway. Cutcliffe would make us respectable in year one which would just reinforce what many of us suspect. Cutcliffe was the secret behind Fulmer’s apparent success in his glory years. Phil cannot allow that

That logic is ignorant. A good coach finds good assistants and manages the team.

 

[Birdie]

Go hire Herman. He and Tejas don't want to be together anymore. Is a great offensive mind, wins 8 games a year. Still young, would probably love to restart his clock. Worst case, he recruits well and wins 8 games a year.

 

[OrangeTsar]

That logic is ignorant. A good coach finds good assistants and manages the team.

You Are correct if you assume said coaches act rationally. Real humans also act irrationally sometimes, especially if self interest or reputation are at stake

 

[Boston Vol]

Go hire Herman. He and Tejas don't want to be together anymore. Is a great offensive mind, wins 8 games a year. Still young, would probably love to restart his clock. Worst case, he recruits well and wins 8 games a year.

If you can only win 8 games a year at Texas, you’re not going to be very successful at a place like Tennessee.

 

[Birdie]

If you can only win 8 games a year at Texas, you’re not going to be very successful at a place like Tennessee.

Texas has serious problems. Did you know they require him to only recruit Texas QB's? Think TN booster meddle that much? They don't even have an indoor facility btw, they still use a bubble like we did in the 90's. He won 10 games and played for a conference title. Went 6-3 this year, so probably would have won 10 games with a normal schedule. He lost by a total of 7pts in his 3 losses this year to Oklahoma, TCU, and Iowa State who were all ranked and 2 played for conference title.
He isn't getting blown out by 4 td's in his losses either. His worst loss in 4yrs at Texas was 20pts im his first game, the majority of his losses are within 7pts meaning he is always in the game ans fielding competitive teams.. He lost by 7 to National Champ LSU last year who was killing everyone, 8 to Oklahoma who went to CFP. Coaches can learn and grow, if winning 10 games while always being competitive in his games, playing for conference titles, and fielding elite offenses are his floor to grow from then I like the risk vs reward compared to keeping Pruitt or hiring someone like Napier, etc.

 

[Boston Vol]

Texas has serious problems. Did you know they require him to only recruit Texas QB's? Think TN booster meddle that much? They don't even have an indoor facility btw, they still use a bubble like we did in the 90's. He won 10 games and played for a conference title. Went 6-3 this year, so probably would have won 10 games with a normal schedule. He isn't getting blown out by 4 td's in his losses either. He lost by 7 to National Champ LSU last year, 8 to Oklahoma who went to CFP. Coaches can learn and grow, if winning 10 games, playing for conference titles, and fielding elite offenses are his floor to grow from then I like the risk vs reward compared to keeping Pruitt or hiring someone like Napier, etc.

He’s signed multiple quarterbacks from out-of-state during his time at Texas, so I have no idea where you’re getting the idea that he’s only allowed to sign in-state quarterbacks.

 

[VOLnMiami]

IT would be real nice if Fulmer would call this man and see if he would be interested in taking the UT job after this year..he would be a hell of a hire bar none....still young...Iowa state wins the Big 12 if they beat WV to.

He's waiting on the Michigan job when it comes open.

 

[griddie]

Get Freeze if a change is coming. The guy can flat out coach

 

[Birdie]

He’s signed multiple quarterbacks from out-of-state during his time at Texas, so I have no idea where you’re getting the idea that he’s only allowed to sign in-state quarterbacks.

Even if I am wrong does it mean he still sucks? Almost all of his losses are within 7pts. He wins way more often than he loses, he fields great offenses. We need a coach that can consistently win 8-9 games. In a normal year he wins 9 or 10 this year, so his win totals would be 7,10,8,9/10. Who can we get that is more proven than that? That has managed programs and been successful? I want to be competitive every week, let's start there and then think about a division title, etc. He could get us to the first step.

 

[Boston Vol]

Even if I am wrong does it mean he still sucks? Almost all of his losses are within 7pts. He wins way more often than he loses, he fields great offenses. We need a coach that can consistently win 8-9 games. In a normal year he wins 9 or 10 this year, so his win totals would be 7,10,8,9/10. Who can we get that is more proven than that? That has managed programs and been successful? I want to be competitive every week, let's start there and then think about a division title, etc. He could get us to the first step.

Who said he sucks? But my point stands, if you struggle to compete for championships at a place like Texas, why would you suddenly be able to do so at a place like Tennessee?

 

[Birdie]

Who said he sucks? But my point stands, if you struggle to compete for championships at a place like Texas, why would you suddenly be able to do so at a place like Tennessee?

He played for Big12 conference title in his 2nd season after the prior coach went 6-7, 5-7, and 5-7. He lost by a COMBINED 7 pts to TCU, Iowa State, and Oklahoma this year. The latter 2 played in the conference title game. Sounds like he is right there competing with the best teams in the conference for championships to me.

So you're one of the "go hire Urban Meyer" guys. If not, who is a better option?

 

[Boston Vol]

He played for Big12 conference title in his 2nd season after the prior coach went 6-7, 5-7, and 5-7. He lost by a COMBINED 7 pts to TCU, Iowa State, and Oklahoma this year. The latter 2 played in the conference title game. Sounds like he is right there competing with the best teams in the conference for championships to me.

So you're one of the "go hire Urban Meyer" guys. If not, who is a better option?

He’s at a place with as many if not more resources than any other program in the country, yet he’s losing home games to Iowa St and TCU in his fourth year. I don’t think much more needs to be said. In regards to your second question Matt Campbell, Bill O’Brien, Gus Malzahn, and Luke Fickell would all have to tell me no before I even entertained the thought of hiring Herman. And there’s probably another 5-6 guys that I’d offer the job to before him.

 

[Birdie]

He’s at a place with as many if not more resources than any other program in the country, yet he’s losing home games to Iowa St and TCU in his fourth year. I don’t think much more needs to be said. In regards to your second question Matt Campbell, Bill O’Brien, Gus Malzahn, and Luke Fickell would all have to tell me no before I even entertained the thought of hiring Herman. And there’s probably another 5-6 guys that I’d offer the job to before him.

Yea, Herman is a grand slam hire and we'd be lucky to have him. Doesnt matter though. Our AD will go with Pruitt or some mid-tier guy like the other 5-6 you claim are better that has never done anything and we'll stay in the same spot of 5-6 wins forever. We'd rather try and find the next Saban than hire a guy we know will win 9-10 games a year and get us to conference title games. Makes sense.

 

[CAVPUT]

Go hire Herman. He and Tejas don't want to be together anymore. Is a great offensive mind, wins 8 games a year. Still young, would probably love to restart his clock. Worst case, he recruits well and wins 8 games a year.

The last Texas reject turned out to be pretty damned good for our BB program. I'd take him. Gotta be better than Pruitt. Maybe Barnes can put in a good word?

 

[Birdie]

The last Texas reject turned out to be pretty damned good for our BB program. I'd take him. Gotta be better than Pruitt. Maybe Barnes can put in a good word?

For sure. When you find something that works keep doing it right

 

[Boston Vol]

Yea, Herman is a grand slam hire and we'd be lucky to have him. Doesnt matter though. Our AD will go with Pruitt or some mid-tier guy like the other 5-6 you claim are better that has never done anything and we'll stay in the same spot of 5-6 wins forever. We'd rather try and find the next Saban than hire a guy we know will win 9-10 games a year and get us to conference title games. Makes sense.

How do you know that Tom Herman would win 9-10 games a year at Tennessee? He’s been at Texas for four years and has won at least nine games one time. So a coach who struggles to win 8 games a year in the B12, at arguably the best job in the country, is going to somehow start winning 9-10 games a year in the SEC?

 

[Birdie]

How do you know that Tom Herman would win 9-10 games a year at Tennessee? He’s been at Texas for four years and has won at least nine games one time. So a coach who struggles to win 8 games a year in the B12, at arguably the best job in the country, is going to somehow start winning 9-10 games a year in the SEC?

How is he struggling to win those games when he beats good teams regularly and loses by 7pts or less when he is losing? He isn't getting blown out by Oklahoma and good teams, they are beating him by 1-7pts when they do. Personally. I'd rather have a coach I know can put a team on the field that will compete with/beat teams like Oklahoma than somebody that may compete/beat or may get blown out by 35pts like Pruitt.

 

[Boston Vol]

How is he struggling to win those games when he beats good teams regularly and loses by 7pts or less when he is losing? He isn't getting blown out by Oklahoma and good teams, they are beating him by 1-7pts when they do. Personally. I'd rather have a coach I know can put a team on the field that will compete with/beat teams like Oklahoma than somebody that may compete/beat or may get blown out by 35pts like Pruitt.

Wow that’s the spirit, let’s hire a guy because he loses “close” to his arch rival and loses “close” games to programs that Texas should be consistently beating. Again you’re the one who made the statement that he would win 9-10 games a year at Tennessee. What evidence do you have to back that up? Why would a guy who has only won at least nine games once at Texas, in a vastly inferior conference, somehow start to win 9-10 games a year at Tennessee.