Maui fire. What is going on?

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This sounds like a story of "poor infrastructure for sure" I mean if "cops blocking off roads" for exits counts...

 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
No one ever has said what started the fire and or said it didn't have MULTIPLE causes.....what is interesting is they shutting out aid, forcing a news black out, and before they build sheleters or help survivors their erecting borders and walls faster then they ever have for the border for sure...... maybe they don't want videos of the damage done an anomoleys out for some reason.
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Multiple people have already sued Hawaii Electric. They are almost certainly filing for BK. They haven't stated official cause but all the videos out there of line snapping and catching fire is damning evidence. But hey, maybe the world's richest man (Bezos), a gay Republican (Thiel) who hates Bezos, a mutual fund company, and a Black Democratic (Oprah) all conspired together and got their blowtorches out and set more fires...

There's plenty of video of damage pics there. If they wanted to keep everyone out, they would have done what Mexico Beach did and shut down Highway 98 for a year...

Ultimately, the MSM will fade away because they know the blame will ultimately be placed at the feet of the publicly traded utility and they won't be able to make this about climate chg.
 
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@Sgt_Nick_Fury - A fair question is why was the infrastructure so bad. What costs did they incur that should have gone to line and vegetation maintenance. For example, did they neglect their grid to invest in renewable power...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
This isn't some conspiracy and this isn't climate change. This is a catastrophic utility infrastructure failure. Period.

The warning signs have been there. Texas grid, Flint water, Jackson, MS, MLGW, Germantown water, Camp Fire. Utility infrastructures are crumbling. Routine events that had no impact 20 yrs ago are easily toppling utility infrastructure....
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F U. Space lasers microwaved the cars. Airvol has proof.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Clearly the warnings signs of poor infrastructure explain this.......



For the record I do not know about this "DEW" theory, but there's some weird patterns to the fire much like the california fires. What I do know is they already had plans for the 15 minute smart city before residents were willing to sell their property. Those fires often seemed to actually start from some of the meters from the local electric company.
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That's odd for sure, but notice the front rim is still in place ? Three thousand degree?
 
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Zues1 said:
That's odd for sure, but notice the front rim is still in place ? Three thousand degree?
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To be honest I am no fire guy.....no idea what the temps are for these different effects, but I doubt it's anywhere near that high. What I do find odd is the dry grasses around it and untouched houses...why are these cars burned up and melted away from the main fire area and surrounded by combustable material taht did NOT catch on fire? ..... in the other drive through video he sees a car like this well outside of the fire area that is also away from everything and it's burned to point of melting etc. iZt also seems completely out of place with dry grasses around it. If I didn't "know" better I'd think all the vehicles were the sources of fire. Again I'm not one of the DEW people either, though I'm not close minded to it being a possibility either, but seems like there's easier explanations for arson......but something is odd about these. The fact they want to do a media blockout, and stop investigative journalist with so many questions...seems odd.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Multiple people have already sued Hawaii Electric. They are almost certainly filing for BK. They haven't stated official cause but all the videos out there of line snapping and catching fire is damning evidence. But hey, maybe the world's richest man (Bezos), a gay Republican (Thiel) who hates Bezos, a mutual fund company, and a Black Democratic (Oprah) all conspired together and got their blowtorches out and set more fires...

There's plenty of video of damage pics there. If they wanted to keep everyone out, they would have done what Mexico Beach did and shut down Highway 98 for a year...

Ultimately, the MSM will fade away because they know the blame will ultimately be placed at the feet of the publicly traded utility and they won't be able to make this about climate chg.
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What does any of that have to do with turning off the water and blocking exits with roadblocks? The most damning part to me is this, and the fact all the emergency leaders were off the island when it happened, what were they doing? Apparently at a meeting planning what to do for this kind of an emergency. Where have we heard that before? Afterall the land being targeted is one thing but the deed holder's and their heirs is another. Nothing about this scenerio is odd for American history......remember smallpox blankets? Who stands to profit? by how much?
 
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So this is the other car......makes no sense.



Are the cars combusting without wildfire? if so why? Forget about this dew crap. I know modern cars have kill switches available via computers.... do they got KILL switches? What's the rational explanation? I'm not remotely suggesting I have a clue...but it's not insane to ask the questions....

More so when you consider the billions that land was worse, and it seems like entire families of deed holders were wiped out.

Once again Native own land.....wealthy elite and govt want land. Native won't sell. Natives are now dead......this isn't a remotely new thing for this country.

Note the end when the police push them off.
 
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Covering their tracks.....




There's a reason Maui should matter to everyone beyond empathy to our fellow Americans. This is literally a test bed. Not only for 15 minute cities, not only for building total surveillance state cities, not only for locking down all resources, or making a near invisible walled prison population.... This is also a test bed for what they can get away with in order to force people off their land, and out of their homes. It's a test to see what they can do to people without the common population getting upset so long as they spin the media, and fail report the truth. (a hundred dead still with thousand plus missing?) If maui goes through without issue, it will embolden them for the rest of the country. You should care what happens in Maui. the more so if you live in a single family home. They have made it clear per their "Great Reset" plans single family homes will not be tolerated for anyone but the elite. So goes Maui, possibly so goes stateside America.
 
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KB5252 said:
What a competent country would be doing is ramping up it's domestic cache of engineers, skilled techs and laborers to revamp the nation's aging and failing infrastructure. That would be a huge boost to our economy now and in the future. Give a sense of purpose and pride to people.
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but wouldn't gender studies suffer?
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
What does any of that have to do with turning off the water and blocking exits with roadblocks? The most damning part to me is this, and the fact all the emergency leaders were off the island when it happened, what were they doing? Apparently at a meeting planning what to do for this kind of an emergency. Where have we heard that before? Afterall the land being targeted is one thing but the deed holder's and their heirs is another. Nothing about this scenerio is odd for American history......remember smallpox blankets? Who stands to profit? by how much?
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Remember when Hawaiian king/queen was snuffed out and the islands forceably annexed by the US?
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
To be honest I am no fire guy.....no idea what the temps are for these different effects, but I doubt it's anywhere near that high. What I do find odd is the dry grasses around it and untouched houses...why are these cars burned up and melted away from the main fire area and surrounded by combustable material taht did NOT catch on fire? ..... in the other drive through video he sees a car like this well outside of the fire area that is also away from everything and it's burned to point of melting etc. iZt also seems completely out of place with dry grasses around it. If I didn't "know" better I'd think all the vehicles were the sources of fire. Again I'm not one of the DEW people either, though I'm not close minded to it being a possibility either, but seems like there's easier explanations for arson......but something is odd about these. The fact they want to do a media blockout, and stop investigative journalist with so many questions...seems odd.
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
So this is the other car......makes no sense.



Are the cars combusting without wildfire? if so why? Forget about this dew crap. I know modern cars have kill switches available via computers.... do they got KILL switches? What's the rational explanation? I'm not remotely suggesting I have a clue...but it's not insane to ask the questions....

More so when you consider the billions that land was worse, and it seems like entire families of deed holders were wiped out.

Once again Native own land.....wealthy elite and govt want land. Native won't sell. Natives are now dead......this isn't a remotely new thing for this country.

Note the end when the police push them off.
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Makes complete sense. Fires transmit their energy through convection heat and radiant heat. Ex: when nuclear blasts were tested and filmed, you can see the buildings smoke and burn before the blast wave hit. That is radiant heat. Another example, when a house is burning close to other homes, firemen will dose the homes next door with water to prevent them from igniting from the radiant heat (and floating embers).
A car has many flammable components and fluids which can ignite with enough radiant heating. This is also true as embers are carried from the burning area and land on combustible materials.

Think critically about what you are seeing.
 
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McDad said:
Makes complete sense. Fires transmit their energy through convection heat and radiant heat. Ex: when nuclear blasts were tested and filmed, you can see the buildings smoke and burn before the blast wave hit. That is radiant heat. Another example, when a house is burning close to other homes, firemen will dose the homes next door with water to prevent them from igniting from the radiant heat (and floating embers).
A car has many flammable components and fluids which can ignite with enough radiant heating. This is also true as embers are carried from the burning area and land on combustible materials.

Think critically about what you are seeing.
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i wonder if those were EVs
 
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I’m curious. Are we making fun of dew weapons because they don’t exist? Plenty of evidence they do exist and are currently active. Major weapons systems have gone to using lasers in land, sea and satellite based weapons systems. Including the US navy by their own admission, they recently announced upgrades to their last laser system for the navy.
Again, just curious.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
To be honest I am no fire guy.....no idea what the temps are for these different effects, but I doubt it's anywhere near that high. What I do find odd is the dry grasses around it and untouched houses...why are these cars burned up and melted away from the main fire area and surrounded by combustable material taht did NOT catch on fire? ..... in the other drive through video he sees a car like this well outside of the fire area that is also away from everything and it's burned to point of melting etc. iZt also seems completely out of place with dry grasses around it. If I didn't "know" better I'd think all the vehicles were the sources of fire. Again I'm not one of the DEW people either, though I'm not close minded to it being a possibility either, but seems like there's easier explanations for arson......but something is odd about these. The fact they want to do a media blockout, and stop investigative journalist with so many questions...seems odd.
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Space lasers only work on cars.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
@Sgt_Nick_Fury - A fair question is why was the infrastructure so bad. What costs did they incur that should have gone to line and vegetation maintenance. For example, did they neglect their grid to invest in renewable power...
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That’s what I want to know

85SugarVol said:
Are there any published reports on Hawaiian Electric capital outlays? I’d be interested to see 2 categories.

How much did they spend on power line maintenance and brush clearance.
How much did they spend investing in and developing green energy sources.
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