Memphis People, Chris Jones - What is this?

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hatvol96 said:
He got a commitment from one of the top 3 point guards in the '11 class today. Calhoun's going to be just fine. I love how people seem to forget they were in the Final Four in '08-'09.
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Glad Coon and Cal see Pearl as important enough to go after atleast. I haven't forgotten the final fours. Also haven't forgotten the flameouts.
 
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Gcrop said:
Agreed. And I assume you are talking about Cowboy?
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I am not sure who that is to be honest. At least by that name.


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Jonathan Williams III is likely to be the Adonis Thomas ('11)/Jarnell Stokes ('12) of the 2013 class. Pretty amazing to be 6'8" and as fluid as he is......and be a freshman. I haven't seen a lot of him but everything I hear is very, very good. :thumbsup:
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J3 as they call him is going to be a major prospect. Pearl and Co. should be pretty familiar with the family after spending sometime recruiting his older brother who came out of Briarcrest last year (@ GW now).

Hat is pretty much spot on with some of the things that I heard. I was unaware of the Big East angle, but you can bet that both UK and Memphis do not want TN getting top shelf players, especially when they are from Memphis.

In the end, I think that TN will hold on to Jones because of his close relationship with CBP, but I do wonder if the work he has to put in like Hat mentioned will hinder us elsewhere.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Calhoun's always going to pull players. However, I don't really understand why he cares enough about Pearl to try to sabotage him at every turn.
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He isn't. Calhoun doesn't give a rat's ass about sabotaging Pearl, nor is hurting Pearl's recruiting item "1B" in college basketball. I mean, Tony Jones makes one comment to a newspaper saying "it stinks" and now all of college basketball despises Pearl, wanting to hurt him at all costs? And at the behest of Calipari? Coaches are lining up to help Calipari? Really? That's the dumbest thing I've heard.

Sorry, but hat's unrelenting contempt and vitriol towards Pearl and his staff shines through in ridiculous commentary throughout this thread. He wants Pearl and staff to be so hated by other Vol fans that he'll conjure up this vast conspiracy by the entire college basketball coaching community. Hat's still hoping to convince others that Tennessee is inhibited by Pearl's supposed lack of status and fulfill his annual predictions of a Pearl "flameout".

C'mon, think about it! Calhoun and others like him hate Pearl so much they'll purposely undercut a Tennessee program they practically never play or recruit against? I call a huge BS.

This is just hat's agenda shining through.
 
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By the way, Pinkston was so ignored by Pearl and staff that he wanted to commit to UT a few days before Harris did and was told to hold off by Pearl (who knew they wouldn't want to play together), which was the real reason he was pissed. We had our pick of the two guys and went with Harris. It had nothing to do with having to spend all our energy on Harris in order to overcome the anti-Pearl recruiting of other coaches.

Hat is so full of crap. I don't know how much clearer his agenda has to be with his blantant misrepresentations, if not outright lies. Let's just gander at what is being said here:

- Pearl is the most hated coach in basketball.
- Coaches are tired of "all the whining" Pearl and Jones do, yet there's nothing that suggests this happens other than hat's exaggerations.
- Coaches will do anything to sabotage his recruiting at the expense of their own time and efforts in recruiting.
- Pearl will have to work harder than any basketball coach at keeping recruits because of the above statement, causing Tennessee to lose out on players we normally could get.
- Coaches will work with people like Calipari, whom they respect (or fear, I guess) enough to sabotage Pearl even though Cal is kicking their ass in recruiting using WWW and LeBron (Apparently, this is kosher with the coaches, but whining is unforgivable and the cause for all to gang up on Pearl/Jones. Riiiight.).

Clearly, again, the agenda here is to make Pearl out to be a liability to Tennessee in order to garner fan opposition to Pearl. Unfortunately for hat, even though he's gained some followers who use his "Pearlophile" terminology and buy his argument, the continuing success on the court and in recruiting have made him more desperate and illogical in his attacks on Pearl as opposed to his (usually) lucid arguments on other subjects.
 
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Unimane said:
By the way, Pinkston was so ignored by Pearl and staff that he wanted to commit to UT a few days before Harris did and was told to hold off by Pearl (who knew they wouldn't want to play together), which was the real reason he was pissed. We had our pick of the two guys and went with Harris. It had nothing to do with having to spend all our energy on Harris in order to overcome the anti-Pearl recruiting of other coaches.

Hat is so full of crap. I don't know how much clearer his agenda has to be with his blantant misrepresentations, if not outright lies. Let's just gander at what is being said here:

- Pearl is the most hated coach in basketball.
- Coaches are tired of "all the whining" Pearl and Jones do, yet there's nothing that suggests this happens other than hat's exaggerations.
- Coaches will do anything to sabotage his recruiting at the expense of their own time and efforts in recruiting.
- Pearl will have to work harder than any basketball coach at keeping recruits because of the above statement, causing Tennessee to lose out on players we normally could get.
- Coaches will work with people like Calipari, whom they respect (or fear, I guess) enough to sabotage Pearl even though Cal is kicking their ass in recruiting using WWW and LeBron (Apparently, this is kosher with the coaches, but whining is unforgivable and the cause for all to gang up on Pearl/Jones. Riiiight.).

Clearly, again, the agenda here is to make Pearl out to be a liability to Tennessee in order to garner fan opposition to Pearl. Unfortunately for hat, even though he's gained some followers who use his "Pearlophile" terminology and buy his argument, the continuing success on the court and in recruiting have made him more desperate and illogical in his attacks on Pearl as opposed to his (usually) lucid arguments on other subjects.
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In an attempt to stay out of internet fights for awhile I thought I would just stay out of this one because I figured most would see right through the agenda and you have dissected it quite nicely I must say.

There is no anti-Pearl conspiracy among the coaching ranks. Cal and Calhoun had no hand in JS going to Kansas. JS and his mother couldn't stand Calipari as a matter of fact and wouldn't listen to a thing he tried to sell them. Calhoun was never even in the picture with JS's recruitment and on top of that Calhoun doesn't even like Calapari.

That's not to say that there isn't negative recruiting going on in basketball and there probably isn't a coach in basketball today who hasn't done it. However to say that there are 2 coaches who are conspiring to get players away from Bruce Pearl and Tennessee is about as silly as it comes.
 
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well unlike dooley and terry joseph i think pearl is aware that he acually has to keep in contact with people who are commited to us...:realmad:
 
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IA VOL said:
In an attempt to stay out of internet fights for awhile I thought I would just stay out of this one because I figured most would see right through the agenda and you have dissected it quite nicely I must say.

There is no anti-Pearl conspiracy among the coaching ranks. Cal and Calhoun had no hand in JS going to Kansas. JS and his mother couldn't stand Calipari as a matter of fact and wouldn't listen to a thing he tried to sell them. Calhoun was never even in the picture with JS's recruitment and on top of that Calhoun doesn't even like Calapari.

That's not to say that there isn't negative recruiting going on in basketball and there probably isn't a coach in basketball today who hasn't done it. However to say that there are 2 coaches who are conspiring to get players away from Bruce Pearl and Tennessee is about as silly as it comes.
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Keep believing that. Also , while you are at it. keep believing that Pitino and Pearl being serial adulterers doesn't hurt them with single mothers. You poor. naive Steve Forbes loving slobs. It must be tough to see Forbes constantly talk about the guys that have "told him we are solid" then see the prospects and their families crap on their heads.
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I love it when people whose connections are limited to what Steve Forbes and Matt I Can't Get A Job As Full Time Assistantcrantz tell them claim to know more about the mindset of the coaching community than people like myself and BPV. Keep thonking that boys. That way you can cry when the lies about how we had the Elliot Williams and Josh Selbys in our grasp hurt even more because you have to look at your idols and ask how that happened.
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IA VOL said:
In an attempt to stay out of internet fights for awhile I thought I would just stay out of this one because I figured most would see right through the agenda and you have dissected it quite nicely I must say.

There is no anti-Pearl conspiracy among the coaching ranks. Cal and Calhoun had no hand in JS going to Kansas. JS and his mother couldn't stand Calipari as a matter of fact and wouldn't listen to a thing he tried to sell them. Calhoun was never even in the picture with JS's recruitment and on top of that Calhoun doesn't even like Calapari.

That's not to say that there isn't negative recruiting going on in basketball and there probably isn't a coach in basketball today who hasn't done it. However to say that there are 2 coaches who are conspiring to get players away from Bruce Pearl and Tennessee is about as silly as it comes.
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Calhoun hates Calipari. He simply hates self promoting snitches more.
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#61
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chris jones has an awful dislike for joe jackson ,he will not change fron ut to memphis he is coning to tennessee to play against joe jackson and to eat him as a vol pointguard like he did in state tourney ,chris dislikes the fact that joe jackson is a 5 star player and tennessee mr basketall ,when jones deserves a 5 star and was the best pg in the state,after state tital he said i will see you when im plating for tennessee and you for memphis,by the time the class rankings cone back out cris j will be a 5 star and move into top 20 overall,watch and see he is the best pg prospect that ut will get ,i had a suspensin from volnation for awhile,i found out a few days before selby signed to kansas that ,ku was his destination he just listed ut to keep us thinking we were in it for him .selby and his family should be investigated for some of his lies ,he kept us in it on purpose so we couldnt get another player,his mom said the day he decommitted from tennessee that she didnt want him at ut,if fobers would have bought her a cadi or another fine ride he would be all vol ,they said the car he was driving was his coaches ,watch and see if him and or his mother isnt driving a mercedes or another new ride.till ncaa cracks down on this crap all good players will go to ,memphis,ky,unc,duke,kansas and the other so called eliete
 
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hatvol96 said:
I love it when people whose connections are limited to what Steve Forbes and Matt I Can't Get A Job As Full Time Assistantcrantz tell them claim to know more about the mindset of the coaching community than people like myself and BPV. Keep thonking that boys. That way you can cry when the lies about how we had the Elliot Williams and Josh Selbys in our grasp hurt even more because you have to look at your idols and ask how that happened.
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Well, I give you an A for effort. Three spiteful posts in a row to validate your increasingly desperate agenda. It must suck to see all your hard work at character assassination unravel with the continuing successes of Pearl.

Like I said, you are trying to create this image of a college environment where coaches make it a priority to "get" Pearl in order to paint Pearl as a liability to UT and garner support for your anti-Pearl agenda. In reality, coaches don't care about sabotaging Pearl nearly as much as you think (or want). I do wonder how Pearl has managed to pull a top 5 class with all of college basketball scheming against the "snitch" and the pleothera of single mothers despising some alleged "serial cheating". Amazing, I guess, to overcome so much animosity.

Your petty hatred for Pearl and arrogance towards all who disagree with you will simply make revisiting your pronouncement of Pearl "flaming out" at the end of the 2010-11 season all the more deservingly hilarious.
 
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bosgap said:
chris jones has an awful dislike for joe jackson ,he will not change fron ut to memphis he is coning to tennessee to play against joe jackson and to eat him as a vol pointguard like he did in state tourney ,chris dislikes the fact that joe jackson is a 5 star player and tennessee mr basketall ,when jones deserves a 5 star and was the best pg in the state,after state tital he said i will see you when im plating for tennessee and you for memphis,by the time the class rankings cone back out cris j will be a 5 star and move into top 20 overall,watch and see he is the best pg prospect that ut will get ,i had a suspensin from volnation for awhile,i found out a few days before selby signed to kansas that ,ku was his destination he just listed ut to keep us thinking we were in it for him .selby and his family should be investigated for some of his lies ,he kept us in it on purpose so we couldnt get another player,his mom said the day he decommitted from tennessee that she didnt want him at ut,if fobers would have bought her a cadi or another fine ride he would be all vol ,they said the car he was driving was his coaches ,watch and see if him and or his mother isnt driving a mercedes or another new ride.till ncaa cracks down on this crap all good players will go to ,memphis,ky,unc,duke,kansas and the other so called eliete
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If only Fobers would buy some cadis...
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While I side with Uni on the topic. I should point out that I think hat meant that UK's priority 1b was to "get" us, not all of cbball's. (Doesn't mean were friends hat!! Argh!! =) )
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hatvol96 said:
Keep believing that. Also , while you are at it. keep believing that Pitino and Pearl being serial adulterers doesn't hurt them with single mothers. You poor. naive Steve Forbes loving slobs. It must be tough to see Forbes constantly talk about the guys that have "told him we are solid" then see the prospects and their families crap on their heads.
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There was a butt hurt female Memphis fan that came in here when Tennessee beat Kentucky saying that Cal was sleeping around while he coached Memphis. I asked this other guy I know that is a huge Memphis guy about that and he wouldn't "deny" if that were true. I guess you can add Cal to the serial aldulterers list.
 
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GoVols2003 said:
I had thought that Jones had switched over to the M33M Ballers with his Melrose teammates, Thomas and Parks.
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Yea, I think you are right but they seem to be calling themselves the Memphis Magic and I honestly don't know if that is the team that Cowboy coaches.

I know Jones, Thomas, Hollins and them are on the same team right now (playing in Nashville this weekend).

I am pretty sure Easterwood coaches the younger age groups though. 13/14 maybe.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
There was a butt hurt female Memphis fan that came in here when Tennessee beat Kentucky saying that Cal was sleeping around while he coached Memphis. I asked this other guy I know that is a huge Memphis guy about that and he wouldn't "deny" if that were true. I guess you can add Cal to the serial aldulterers list.
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I tend to wait for someone to get fleeced in a divorce or have to hold a press conference to address paying for an abortion before I add someone to that list. I'm pretty sure that "butt hurt fan" won't be filing any court documents or being interviewed on ESPN anytime soon.
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hatvol96 said:
I tend to wait for someone to get fleeced in a divorce or have to haold a press conference to address paying for an abortion before I add someone to that list. I'm pretty sure that "butt hurt fan" won't be filing any court documents or being interviewed on ESPN anytime soon.
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Nixon had "Deep Throat," Calipari has "Butt Hurt."
 
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Gcrop said:
Yea, I think you are right but they seem to be calling themselves the Memphis Magic and I honestly don't know if that is the team that Cowboy coaches.

I know Jones, Thomas, Hollins and them are on the same team right now (playing in Nashville this weekend).

I am pretty sure Easterwood coaches the younger age groups though. 13/14 maybe.
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Cowboy is coaching the Memphis Magic 17U team. Adonis is the only hold over from last year's team I think (Crawford, Jackson, Black all left for obvious reasons).
 
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What the hell does any of this nonsense about what coaches do with their junk have to do with basketball? I think hat's trying to be the Kenneth Starr of college basketball; both lawyers, both gargling the love juice of their own political agendas.
 
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PoochPunt3rdDown said:
What the hell does any of this nonsense about what coaches do with their junk have to do with basketball? I think hat's trying to be the Kenneth Starr of college basketball; both lawyers, both gargling the love juice of their own political agendas.
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Yeah, it's not like rival recruiters make sure the Maeshon Witherspoons of the world know Pearl is the kind of guy who drops the mother of his children for a trophy wife at his first taste of national acclaim. Oh, wait.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, it's not like rival recruiters make sure the Maeshon Witherspoons of the world know Pearl is the kind of guy who drops the mother of his children for a trophy wife at his first taste of national acclaim. Oh, wait.
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And it's not as if the Marlon Browns of the world have grandmothers who steer them to certain colleges because the HC seems to be a good Christian man. Oh, wait...
 
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