Memphis People, Chris Jones - What is this?

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hatvol96 said:
Except for the fact that it was the university president that pursued the idea of him returning after Cal told him no, that's close to accurate.
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I bet the father of his girlfriend that he held down and beat up was all for the reformed Hunt returning and playing for Cal.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
I bet the father of his girlfriend that he held down and beat up was all for the reformed Hunt returning and playing for Cal.
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Since he wasn't recruiting the daughter, I'm pretty sure John flat doesn't give a damn what her father thinks.
 
#153
#153
hatvol96 said:
By the way, Iowa State is now officially a mess. They are actually now really getting what they deserve for their treatment of Eustachy. Losing a coach to the Valley is bad enough. Having hired a coach who would feel the need to make said move is even worse.
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I think he saw the writing on the wall and got out before he was fired kind of what Alford did at Iowa.

Jeff Grayer and Nick Nurse were both just hired as assistants within the last week. Will be interesting to see what those guys end up doing and what they knew before committing. It would amaze me if those 2 knew nothing and end up out in the cold. Especially, 1 being a former (beloved) Cyclone and the other a very good former player at UNI.
 
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#154
It is all so clear now. :idea:

Being a fundie Christian, you hat(e) Jews for killing Your Savior and have decided to take your toll through a barrage of incoherent wrath-ramblings regarding Pearl.

To further assuage your rage-grief, you are attempting to perfect the art of trolling, fishing to raise emotions and further incite the masses with circular, go-nowhere argumentation.

Two salient points and then off with you.

1) I ain't playing.
2) The cross was Roman wood.

:moon2:

PLONK
 
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IA VOL said:
I think he saw the writing on the wall and got out before he was fired kind of what Alford did at Iowa.

Jeff Grayer and Nick Nurse were both just hired as assistants within the last week. Will be interesting to see what those guys end up doing and what they knew before committing. It would amaze me if those 2 knew nothing and end up out in the cold. Especially, 1 being a former (beloved) Cyclone and the other a very good former player at UNI.
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Nurse probably wishes he had stayed in the NBDL. I'm not sure how they would have had any prior knowledge, since Altman to Oregon came out of nowhere.
 
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Ari Silverstein said:
It is all so clear now. :idea:

Being a fundie Christian, you hat(e)
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If that's what is clear to you, my suspicions about the minimal size of your intellect were accurate. However, I'm sure you provided longtime members of this board with a huge laugh.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If that's what is clear to you, my suspicions about the minimal size of your intellect were accurate. However, I'm sure you provided longtime members of this board with a huge laugh.
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Next thing you know he'll be bashing you because of your love for women's basketball.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, that's an objective view. I'm certain Cal will be glad to have parents compare Joey Dorsey getting in a fight in a nightclub to Ramar Smith committing armed robbery and Tyler Smith, et al packing heat and weed.
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Also in 2005, U of M basketball guard Andre Allen was arrested for patronizing a prostitute.
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In 2003, Tiger basketball player Clyde Wade was involved in an identity theft ring and was investigated by federal officials.
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That article I quoted is about as objective as you are being in analyzing Pearl's off the field issues as compared with Calipari's. The fact is, Calipari has had just as many, and probably more, criminals playing for him than Pearl has. And for Cal to somehow be succesfully using his "players' record of good behavior" against us in recruiting is laughable, imo.
 
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LawVol13 said:
That article I quoted is about as objective as you are being in analyzing Pearl's off the field issues as compared with Calipari's. The fact is, Calipari has had just as many, and probably more, criminals playing for him than Pearl has. And for Cal to somehow be succesfully using his "players' record of good behavior" against us in recruiting is laughable, imo.
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Andre Allen and Clyde Wade were both tossed immediately. Unlike Ramar Smith, who ran a drug and robbery ring while starting at point guard. Period.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Andre Allen and Clyde Wade were both tossed immediately. Unlike Ramar Smith, who ran a drug and robbery ring while starting at point guard. Period.
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I thought his involvement in the robbery and drug ring occurred after he was dismissed? And to clarify my earlier statement, I don't think that Pearl is a great example of a disciplinarian, but I also think that Cal's record in that department is, at best, just as bad as Pearl's.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Andre Allen and Clyde Wade were both tossed immediately. Unlike Ramar Smith, who ran a drug and robbery ring while starting at point guard. Period.
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So you know for a fact that Bruce knew that Ramar was running this operation while he was playing and still let him play?
 
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alumvol08 said:
So you know for a fact that Bruce knew that Ramar was running this operation while he was playing and still let him play?
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Didn't say that. Pearl was told multiple times that Smith, Crews, and Tabb were pure trouble. He asked them about it. They denied it. He told them he'd take their word for it. Then, when the evidence became apparent to Ray Charles and Ronnie Milsap, Pearl did something.
 
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Folks this is getting pretty wild. No way Pearl had knowledge of criminal behavior by Ramar and yet allowed him to remain on the team. Every thing he has done with players who got into trouble would indicate otherwise. Players were kicked off the team for pot, but he would allow serious criminal behavior by Ramar and allow him to stay on the team??---Get real!!
 
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hatvol96 said:
Andre Allen and Clyde Wade were both tossed immediately. Unlike Ramar Smith, who ran a drug and robbery ring while starting at point guard. Period.
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I'm sure that was the case; however, if Cal gets to use the excuse, "I just threw them off the team." Then why would that excuse not be available to Pearl who did the exact same thing with Ramar Smith, Tyler Smith, etc. And Pearl could even say that he threw Ramar off before criminal charges were filed unlike Cal who kicked those guys off after charges were filed. Also, I think it would be a safe assumption that Cal knew that those guys were trouble just as Pearl knew that Ramar, Tyler, and Tabb were trouble. That's why I see no distinction between their disciplinary records as coaches.
 
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BasketvolsFan said:
Folks this is getting pretty wild. No way Pearl had knowledge of criminal behavior by Ramar and yet allowed him to remain on the team. Every thing he has done with players who got into trouble would indicate otherwise. Players were kicked off the team for pot, but he would allow serious criminal behavior by Ramar and allow him to stay on the team??---Get real!!
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The only reason Pearl didn't know about Ramar's criminality is that he chose to be willfully blind. That's also how Tyler Smith and Josh Tabb lasted as long as they did.
 
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LawVol13 said:
I'm sure that was the case; however, if Cal gets to use the excuse, "I just threw them off the team." Then why would that excuse not be available to Pearl who did the exact same thing with Ramar Smith, Tyler Smith, etc.
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If you believe Pearl didn't choose to ignore multiple warnings about the Smiths and Tabb, have at it. I, and several others here, know better.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Didn't say that. Pearl was told multiple times that Smith, Crews, and Tabb were pure trouble. He asked them about it. They denied it. He told them he'd take their word for it. Then, when the evidence became apparent to Ray Charles and Ronnie Milsap, Pearl did something.
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I see the point. However, couldn't the same be said with Cal and all the players he recruited that he eventually kicked off the team for various crimes? Or were these guys that had no history of criminal behavior until arriving on campus? I don't argue that some of the Memphis players have gone on to have better lives than Ramar. It just seems like even though Cal imposed these harsh penalties against his players, the same argument could be made that he should have realized their character before allowing them on the team.
 
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No question that there were character issues with all of these players. Ultimately, they all were removed from the team. I still can't believe that Pearl knew of the type of behavior that Ramar was involved in and allowed him to stay on the team. He would put his entire career in jeopardy by doing such a thing.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If you believe Pearl didn't choose to ignore multiple warnings about the Smiths and Tabb, have at it. I, and several others here, know better.
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No, I absolutely believe what you're saying is true. My point is, you know as well as I do that Cal wasn't oblivious to his players at Memphis' tendency to engage in criminal behavior as well. So, again, there's no real distinction between the two.
 
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alumvol08 said:
I see the point. However, couldn't the same be said with Cal and all the players he recruited that he eventually kicked off the team for various crimes? Or were these guys that had no history of criminal behavior until arriving on campus? I don't argue that some of the Memphis players have gone on to have better lives than Ramar. It just seems like even though Cal imposed these harsh penalties against his players, the same argument could be made that he should have realized their character before allowing them on the team.
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Clyde Wade was walkon Cal took to appease some of the Memphis folks who thought he was ignoring local talent. He was a bad guy. Allen wasn't a great guy, but I don't find solicitation to be on a par with armed robbery.
 
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