Michigan spied on Vols last year

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This plus the Iowa State news in the offseason is exposing that sports (I think across the board, not just CFB) might be dirty and perhaps even a little rigged.

Who knows, with the issue they had on defense last year, someone may have paid a certain LB to cause turmoil in the locker room.

I do think the NFL is dirty at times with teams/players being paid to throw games, etc.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If you think SC actually knew our signals then you aren’t smart at all. You are QAnon level.
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The whole story sounds nuts . . . but that may just be because people are nuts and will try anything. I don't quite buy it, but it's not an implausible scenario. It'd definitely be easier to figure out defensive signals than offensive signals. Even if you didn't know the entire call, just knowing what coverage you're about to see would be huge.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If you think SC actually knew our signals then you aren’t smart at all. You are QAnon level.
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lol if you think they magically found a way to be 2 steps ahead of two top 10 teams all game long in back to back weeks, after playing like boo-boo all year, then you aren’t smart at all. You are denser than a rock. They wore color-coded wristbands those two weeks for the first time all year & revert back to no wristbands for their bowl game; not to mention their ass-clown of a coach has literally been busted for practically the same thing in the past? 🧐 add in the fact that SC’s final two opponents were the biggest threat to Michigan’s CFP hopes.. Yeah, there’s enough smoke surrounding these allegations to rival the amount visible within Neyland after the Bama upset last year.
 
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My take?

It happens. Far more frequently then they'll admit. Michigan just got caught.

Now, as Paul Harvey used to say, the rest of the story...

If (not proven yet, but suspect) somehow USCe got their hands on our calls and that led to the Hooker injury? Now I'm pissed. He was on track for a NYC visit along with what probably would have been a 1st round draft pick.

It's one thing to use such things to your advantage and win (still cheating) but if it leads to an injury of a player that likely would be raking in high seven low eight figures?

****ing dirty. And someone deserves to burn.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Okay sure buddy. Beamer has admitted and has been fined for cheating before. He’d definitely do it again. You’re basically ignoring all the evidence.
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Yeah right. You are just trying to find an excuse as to why we got dominated by SC last year. Keep that tinfoil hat on chief.
 
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Grand Vol said:
My take?

It happens. Far more frequently then they'll admit. Michigan just got caught.

Now, as Paul Harvey used to say, the rest of the story...

If (not proven yet, but suspect) somehow USCe got their hands on our calls and that led to the Hooker injury? Now I'm pissed. He was on track for a NYC visit along with what probably would have been a 1st round draft pick.

It's one thing to use such things to your advantage and win (still cheating) but if it leads to an injury of a player that likely would be raking in high seven low eight figures?

****ing dirty. And someone deserves to burn.
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I don't get how people are making the leap to the HH injury. That was a freak, non-contact injury that could have happened a bunch of different ways.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't get how people are making the leap to the HH injury. That was a freak, non-contact injury that could have happened a bunch of different ways.
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Hence my "if" comment. I get it, players get injured all the time. However, if the other team knows exactly where the plays are going to happen...
 
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aRmo said:
Who says we dont?
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What exactly is there left to cheat? Paying recruits is legal now (well technically the NIL collective pays). What else is there left to really do aside from spying or paying off refs (which let's be real, doesn't happen). Tamper in the portal? Talk to recruits during dead periods? These are pretty low level violations overall. Not exactly what would define as "cheating."
 
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Sounds like some of you would be okay for teams to share "game plans" with each other before the game starts. All of this, if true, is not ethical. And a coach that will do this will do anything. So much for lining up on the field and letting the best team win fair and square.

I am close to being done with college football.
 
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Carp said:
What exactly is there left to cheat? Paying recruits is legal now (well technically the NIL collective pays). What else is there left to really do aside from spying or paying off refs (which let's be real, doesn't happen). Tamper in the portal? Talk to recruits during dead periods? These are pretty low level violations overall. Not exactly what would define as "cheating."
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Pay recruits is the cheating part i was referring to. Yes its "legal" to do it through the NIL collective. But the coaches are not supposed to have a hand or part in it. You cant sit there with a straight face and tell me the Head Coach doesnt meddle in that. There is no way.
 
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aRmo said:
Pay recruits is the cheating part i was referring to. Yes its "legal" to do it through the NIL collective. But the coaches are not supposed to have a hand or part in it. You cant sit there with a straight face and tell me the Head Coach doesnt meddle in that. There is no way.
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It's hard to prove. Supposedly coaches can discuss their collective but make no formal offers. It seems to be easy simply give the recruits contact info to their collective Rep and let the rep act as the buffer for NIL deal.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't get how people are making the leap to the HH injury. That was a freak, non-contact injury that could have happened a bunch of different ways.
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We were 21 point favorites. By the 4th quarter, Hendon should have been on the sidelines celebrating with the team and watching Joe get a chance to play
 
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