Mike Leach has been forced to walk the plank

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99bubble said:
Yet, TT goes ahead and fires him. They look scared to death with that move.
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I'd say they look like an administration that just doesn't like their football coach and found a convenient excuse to terminate. I think a guy I heard on ESPN radio nailed it. This is more or less the culmination of what started with rough contract negotiations with Leach at the end of last season.
 
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The Dude said:
A Big XII schedule is tougher than any SWC schedule was.

I'm hardly a fan of Leach's style and I think he's a total clown, but he was a good coach for their program. His winning percentage is superior to Spike Dykes in a tougher situation. The idea that a coach has to win a championship to be considered an upgrade or even solid coach is silly to me, especially when he coaches in Lubbock. Him improving the program has been enough to prove his worth there.
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The Big 12 was around before Leach.
 
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tvolsfan said:
The Big 12 was around before Leach.
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Then you're also probably aware that it's the same conference where Leach has a better winning percentage than Spikes ever did, in either the SWC or Big XII, along with many, many more bowl appearances, better postseason record and higher profile bowls.
 
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The Dude said:
Then you're also probably aware that it's the same conference where Leach has a better winning percentage than Spikes ever did, in either the SWC or Big XII, along with many, many more bowl appearances, better postseason record and higher profile bowls.
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He did. But in the 5 years prior to Leach, TT averaged 7 wins a game. Under Leach, they have averaged about 8.
 
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VKAman said:
The thing is, these "slight variations" make a big difference in whether it's a pro-style offense. When you start getting QBs and linemen used to doing things they won't do at the next level (shotgun all the time or huge splits), it's a bigger and harder adjustment for them when they get to the NFL. That goes completely against what we're trying to do here, which is to prepare people for the NFL and put them in positions where it's easy for scouts to project them to the NFL. Regardless of how "bland" the NFL is, kids want to get there and it's our style of offense, not Leach's, that helps them do it. Leach's offense really didn't help the NFL prospects for pretty much anyone; Crabtree went high in the draft but would have gone higher had he played in a pro-style offense. Leach's offense does almost nothing but hurt NFL aspirations, which leads to my comment about "throwing them down the drain."
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One of my favorite Receivers happened to play for TT, and has 122 Catches right now. The Air Raid really damaged him.

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I agree with the other posters that this was just a convenient excuse to fire him. It might have been the stalled contract talks last season, but I'm wondering if there isn't something more that hasn't been leaked to the media yet.

Maybe the AD had a fat daughter who was dating a player this year. :lol:
 
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The Dude said:
I was talking about only their Big XII records. Overall my numbers are even different than yours, 6.3 wins per year under Dykes to 8.4 under Leach.
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I wasn't trying to make anyone's point. Just throwing up the figures that were being discussed.

1995-9
1996-7
1997-6
1998-7
1999-6

7 wins/year
 
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Oh well. Texas Tech can go nine years without even playing in the conference championship game with some other, less ridiculous coach.
 
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Ben said:
Exactly. I think we still have to give the guy credit. The fact is, he went toe-to-toe with Texas and Oklahoma last year with inferior talent. He's a good coach in my book but a bit of a weirdo to say the least.
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How does getting beaten about 668-7 constitute playing someone "toe to toe." Leach is trash. Always has been, always will be. The next meaningful road game he wins will be his first.
 
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Good to see some of his players killing Leach in the media. Hopefully, the only job this fool ever gets is at some assclown high school in Texas. The college game is much better without that moron. Any member of our fanbase who advocated the hiring of that piece of garbage should be permanently banned from the grounds of Neyland Stadium.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Good to see some of his players killing Leach in the media. Hopefully, the only job this fool ever gets is at some assclown high school in Texas. The college game is much better without that moron. Any member of our fanbase who advocated the hiring of that piece of garbage should be permanently banned from the grounds of Neyland Stadium.
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Uh...you advocated the hiring of Leach. I can bump the thread if you want me to.
 
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bam15 said:
One of my favorite Receivers happened to play for TT, and has 122 Catches right now. The Air Raid really damaged him.

weswelker.jpg
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Which proves that he plays pretty damn well (read: better) in a pro-style offense...thank you for proving my point.
 
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VKAman said:
Which proves that he plays pretty damn well (read: better) in a pro-style offense...thank you for proving my point.
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It's pointless arguing with you, the Air Raid is effective, and grooms players just as well as a "Pro-Style Offense". And I could argue that Erhardt-Perkins, which Bill O'Brien is running right now in New England is pretty radical compared to other offenses.
 
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bam15 said:
It's pointless arguing with you, the Air Raid is effective, and grooms players just as well as a "Pro-Style Offense".
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Yeah, look how well it groomed the Tim Couchs and Cliff Kingsburys of the world for the NFL. It's a garbage, gimmick system coached by a garbage, gimmick human being.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, look how well it groomed the Tim Couchs and Cliff Kingsburys of the world for the NFL. It's a garbage, gimmick system coached by a garbage, gimmick human being.
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I get sick to death of people like you putting out mis-information on Tim Couch and his NFL career. Tim got the hell beat out of him in the NFL because he was on an expansion team. He led the Browns to the playoffs before being hurt at season's end. Elbow/shoulder injuries follow.....career over.
 
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bam15 said:
It's pointless arguing with you, the Air Raid is effective, and grooms players just as well as a "Pro-Style Offense". And I could argue that Erhardt-Perkins, which Bill O'Brien is running right now in New England is pretty radical compared to other offenses.
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Just because Wes Welker is good doesn't mean the system is great.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, look how well it groomed the Tim Couchs and Cliff Kingsburys of the world for the NFL. It's a garbage, gimmick system coached by a garbage, gimmick human being.
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It's obvious you have some sort of Sadistic grudge against Mike Leach, but that's your business. As I said earlier the System works, and is a branch of Chow/Edwards, another system that has been proven, which has produced NFL QB's. The Air Raid has won championships - 2000 Oklahoma, with a QB JUCO Transfer QB that couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. The System also continues to produce Big Numbers with low levels of talent, MTSU, AZ, TT, etc.
 
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Redlegs said:
I get sick to death of people like you putting out mis-information on Tim Couch and his NFL career. Tim got the hell beat out of him in the NFL because he was on an expansion team. He led the Browns to the playoffs before being hurt at season's end. Elbow/shoulder injuries follow.....career over.
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If his passer rating got above 80 for even one year out of his career, people might listen to you...but when Alex Smith's 2009 or Kyle Orton's 2008 were better than any season Tim Couch ever had, not so much...
 
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Redlegs said:
I get sick to death of people like you putting out mis-information on Tim Couch and his NFL career. Tim got the hell beat out of him in the NFL because he was on an expansion team. He led the Browns to the playoffs before being hurt at season's end. Elbow/shoulder injuries follow.....career over.
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You were not NFL material, Tim.
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