Millions of Illegal Aliens From All Over The World Head For U.S. Border

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Orangeburst said:
Joe has everything he needs..so NO. Reagan gave amnesty and you guys lied, so no deal, you own this bitch.
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EXACTLY.

This garbage POS bill has these 2 BS provisions that should make Americans take to the STREETS if it gets passed and throw EVERY Congressman out on their ASSES!!

1. AMNESTY (citizenship) for every illegal invader in this country now. 20 to 30 MILLION OF THEM. 10% OF THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE US.

2. 5000 NEW immigrants from Mexico EVERY SINGLE DAY.....FOREVER.

SOUNDS like I am FOS right??? Like I had to make that up....because theres no way in HELL that any US congressman would go for that right? Read it yourself. Thats EXACTLY what Biden and the Senate want. Its 2/3 of the way becoming law. It must be stopped.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The Senate GOP seems to think it will help and Biden says he will use the authorizations provided to act. Trump doesn't want the GOP to give Biden the authority to do so because it would weaken Trump's contention that the border is all Biden's fault.

Yet again, for the 50th time, whatever argument you offer that Biden could do something differently or should have in the past is irrelevant to the fact that Trump is blocking progress -- backed by GOP Senators, until Trump put his fat arse into the equation.
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Biden already has the authority to do it. No one in the GOP is stopping Biden from enforcing the laws. No one can, unless Congress Impeaches Biden or the courts shut Biden down, no one is taking away his authority at the border. Biden is just extorting Biden actually doing his job to get more payments to Ukraine. Biden is putting Ukraine before Biden's own responsibilities here at home. Even if you think Ukraine is our issue to handle even you have to admit it shouldn't come at before Biden's responsibilities here at home.
 
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LouderVol said:
Biden already has the authority to do it. No one in the GOP is stopping Biden from enforcing the laws. No one can, unless Congress Impeaches Biden or the courts shut Biden down, no one is taking away his authority at the border. Biden is just extorting Biden actually doing his job to get more payments to Ukraine. Biden is putting Ukraine before Biden's own responsibilities here at home. Even if you think Ukraine is our issue to handle even you have to admit it shouldn't come at before Biden's responsibilities here at home.
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When Trump wad POTUS he asked Congress to pasd such authority. Said he needed it to act.

Now?
 
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lawgator1 said:
When Trump wad POTUS he asked Congress to pasd such authority. Said he needed it to act.

Now?
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Trump is full of crap too. you always forget I was the original never Trumper on this site. He is a power hungry Dem acting as a "conservative". he wants just as much power and corruption as the rest of them but slapped on with a big shiny "Trump" logo.

were Biden and his admin lying for 3 years when the claimed the border was secure and they had it under control? Biden only lost the authority since Trump opened his mouth over this bill?

Trump, apparently without the authority or power Biden had up until 2024, managed to have fewer illegal immigrants than Biden does. so somehow that power and authority wasn't needed until right now. which just points to this bill being bs.
 
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lol, imagine Trump refusing to do his job as president until Congress gave more money to the foreign country of his choice. The left would be absolutely apocalyptic and would have impeached him in 24 hrs. but when Biden holds up enforcing America's laws to make sure Ukraine gets money its somehow a good thing slash Trump's fault.
 
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LouderVol said:
Trump, apparently without the authority or power Biden had up until 2024, managed to have fewer illegal immigrants than Biden does. so somehow that power and authority wasn't needed until right now. which just points to this bill being bs.
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You seem to assume that the only factor that changed was Biden is POTUS now, versus Trump then. I think any reasonable person would see that there are a lot of other variables in there which are much more significant than who the POTUS is.

Here is an interesting article setting out the upside and downside of the approaches by both Trump and Biden.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-three-immigration-record
 
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lawgator1 said:
The Senate GOP seems to think it will help and Biden says he will use the authorizations provided to act. Trump doesn't want the GOP to give Biden the authority to do so because it would weaken Trump's contention that the border is all Biden's fault.

Yet again, for the 50th time, whatever argument you offer that Biden could do something differently or should have in the past is irrelevant to the fact that Trump is blocking progress -- backed by GOP Senators, until Trump put his fat arse into the equation.
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If Biden, Mayorkas and the Democrats hadn’t created this entire situation to begin with, Trump wouldn’t even be relevant in this conversation. As far as I’m concerned, he’s not now. They created a dangerous problem only to now be trick f***ing a piece of legislation that shouldn’t be necessary in the first place. Biden could end it today with an EO and support the Texas National Guard. Instead, the apparatus behind him is content to create and continue this kind of chaos. Biden and the Dems own this 1000% and it’s not even a debate.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You seem to assume that the only factor that changed was Biden is POTUS now, versus Trump then. I think any reasonable person would see that there are a lot of other variables in there which are much more significant than who the POTUS is.

Here is an interesting article setting out the upside and downside of the approaches by both Trump and Biden.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-three-immigration-record
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Dude that is nothing but a fluff piece supporting Biden.
 
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Go back and read any article in 2020 about Biden and immigration..I read several last night.
100% Biden.
 
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Vol737 said:
If Biden, Mayorkas and the Democrats hadn’t created this entire situation to begin with, Trump wouldn’t even be relevant in this conversation. As far as I’m concerned, he’s not now. They created a dangerous problem only to now be trick f***ing a piece of legislation that shouldn’t be necessary in the first place. Biden could end it today with an EO and support the Texas National Guard. Instead, the apparatus behind him is content to create and continue this kind of chaos. Biden and the Dems own this 1000% and it’s not even a debate.
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This ^^^^^^ here is the first solid common sense post of the new year.
 
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Vol737 said:
If Biden, Mayorkas and the Democrats hadn’t created this entire situation to begin with, Trump wouldn’t even be relevant in this conversation. As far as I’m concerned, he’s not now. They created a dangerous problem only to now be trick f***ing a piece of legislation that shouldn’t be necessary in the first place. Biden could end it today with an EO and support the Texas National Guard. Instead, the apparatus behind him is content to create and continue this kind of chaos. Biden and the Dems own this 1000% and it’s not even a debate.
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Nobody in America "created the situation." What a stupid statement. Migration has become an increasing problem everywhere with numerous conflicts going on and dysfunctional countries. The Republicans like to complain and politicize the border issue and then, when a good legislative solution is at hand, their response is, "Oh, no, we don't really want to do anything now, the gangster needs to campaign on the issue." The Dems will use this cynical BS to advantage--mark it. And Mike Johnson is a weird, little religious and extremist crackpot. He should become Amish--he'd be a much happier little weenie.
 
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turbovol said:
Nobody in America "created the situation." What a stupid statement. Migration has become an increasing problem everywhere with numerous conflicts going on and dysfunctional countries. The Republicans like to complain and politicize the border issue and then, when a good legislative solution is at hand, their response is, "Oh, no, we don't really want to do anything now, the gangster needs to campaign on the issue." The Dems will use this cynical BS to advantage--mark it. And Mike Johnson is a weird, little religious and extremist crackpot. He should become Amish--he'd be a much happier little weenie.
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Where is this "good legislative solution"?
 
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lawgator1 said:
You seem to assume that the only factor that changed was Biden is POTUS now, versus Trump then. I think any reasonable person would see that there are a lot of other variables in there which are much more significant than who the POTUS is.
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Several factors changed between Trump as POTUS then and Bidencas POTUS now.
- The most notable and documentable being the EO's Trump made pertaining to the border, and the ensuing EO's Biden made.

Since those factors changed, there have been approximately 2,000,000 other variables added.

Immediately addressing the factors that increased the variables is more significant than who the POTUS is.

The POTUS just needs to continue to utilize EO and do his job.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You seem to assume that the only factor that changed was Biden is POTUS now, versus Trump then. I think any reasonable person would see that there are a lot of other variables in there which are much more significant than who the POTUS is.

Here is an interesting article setting out the upside and downside of the approaches by both Trump and Biden.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-three-immigration-record
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from how the US government can handle the border not that much, if anything, changed.

Biden being lax is encouraging illegal migration. The border crossing were down under Trump even before he started the wall, yet alone any policy changes. similarly they went up before Biden could have changed anything. presidents can't control non-US factors, but they don't need to to impact illegal migration. the willingness to even appear to take it seriously seems to have an impact. and yet Biden wants to tie him taking presidential actions to giving Ukraine money.
 
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Remove the Trump EO's to stymie illegal immigration, enact new EO's to facilitate illegal immigration, spread the word of the changes, and then finance the journey ...

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Biden Admin. Sends Millions to Religious Nonprofits Facilitating Mass Illegal Migration

Suspicions that the administration of President Joe Biden is directly footing the bill for at least part of facilitating the most voluminous mass migration crisis in U.S. history, now in its fourth straight year, can now be confirmed.
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