Missouri to sec west

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#101
The reason Third Saturday is not as important to bammers right now is because of Auburn's recent success. By recent, I am not only including last year's championship. It goes back through and beyond the last decade. They are wholly consumed by Auburn these days. Like I said yesterday at work, bammers are feeling good today. They won, and far, far more importantly, Auburn lost. Back when Phil was ringing up several in a row against them, Tennessee and Phil was all they cared about.
 
#102
#102
DjCrenshaw said:
surprised 30 and 40 year olds don't hate us for dominating them in the mid 90's to mid 00's
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Oh, they hate us; they just don't hate us anywhere like they do Auburn. That incestuous slapfest has become so heated in recent years that it's sucked the oxygen out of everything else for both teams.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Four four-team divisions is the way to go, assuming that 16-team conferences are indeed inevitable. Curious to see how they'd sort out the conference title game though. Best way would be to just steamroll the NCAA and add two semifinal games.
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In my opinion, a 14-team SEC is the worst possible outcome. I would far prefer even 15 teams with three 5-team divisions to 14.
 
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#108
PAC 12 saying it's not expanding, meaning you guys are arguing and worrying over a story that likely wasn't near happening at the point al.com (or whoever) felt it should be reported
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#109
#109
I am happy the SEC is adding those 2 teams. 2 pretty good teams but not so dominant that buries the middle of the pack so creates more depth. SEC recently has had 10 of 12 bowl eligible. With A&M and Mizzou SEC gets deeper which everyone points to the conference championships. I see that is the obvious benchmark is champioships but I am equally proud that our 6th or 7th best team can play even with the 2nd or 3rd best teams in the other power conferences. It will also at least in short term as long as Pinkel is at Mizzou will be fun to watch his qb friendly system battle with qb humbling defenses the SEC has to offer.
 
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TrueOrange said:
PAC 12 saying it's not expanding, meaning you guys are arguing and worrying over a story that likely wasn't near happening at the point al.com (or whoever) felt it should be reported
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Awesome news! I guess the SEC will yank their offer to A&M now and everything will just go back to normal, right?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
How would you handle the SECCG? Two division champs with the highest BCS ranking? That would be terrible.
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The two division winners with the best records play while the third gets left out. In the event of a tie, use a version of the same set of tie-breakers we have now. In some ways they are horrible, but at least we are used to them.

Or...

Two game tournament with the division winner with the best record getting a bye. With 16 and 4 divisions, a 3-game tourney is likely, so having one with 3 divisions is not all that crazy.
 
#112
#112
If Pac 12 is not expanding and Oklahoma sticks to its guns and wants out if Big 12 cant offer equal revenue. Do the 2 Oklahoma schools join A&M and Missouri.
 
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Oklahoma has drawn a pretty clear line in the sand with regard to the Big 12, Dan Beebe, the Longhorn Network, etc. Either Texas will cave or they will leave if they can. Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, A&M, and Missouri to the SEC would set up pretty well, at least by the standards of a 16-team monstrosity. You could move Alabama and Auburn east, keep all the major rivalries intact, not be too imbalanced, and play seven games against your own division and rotate two among the other. Unwieldy, but any 16 team arrangement would be.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Oklahoma has drawn a pretty clear line in the sand with regard to the Big 12, Dan Beebe, the Longhorn Network, etc. Either Texas will cave or they will leave if they can. Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, A&M, and Missouri to the SEC would set up pretty well, at least by the standards of a 16-team monstrosity. You could move Alabama and Auburn east, keep all the major rivalries intact, not be too imbalanced, and play seven games against your own division and rotate two among the other. Unwieldy, but any 16 team arrangement would be.
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Sounds awesome. The only thing I see as a snag is Slive wants as many markets as possible and 2 Oklahoma schools only offer 1. Would that put a block on that deal?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Oklahoma has drawn a pretty clear line in the sand with regard to the Big 12, Dan Beebe, the Longhorn Network, etc. Either Texas will cave or they will leave if they can. Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, A&M, and Missouri to the SEC would set up pretty well, at least by the standards of a 16-team monstrosity. You could move Alabama and Auburn east, keep all the major rivalries intact, not be too imbalanced, and play seven games against your own division and rotate two among the other. Unwieldy, but any 16 team arrangement would be.
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Could almost have a legends SEC side and a western division. I know I'm leaving out lsu and crappassissippi teams, but eh... forget em
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Sounds awesome. The only thing I see as a snag is Slive wants as many markets as possible and 2 Oklahoma schools only offer 1. Would that put a block on that deal?
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Absolutely it would. Oklahoma is a black hole, TV-wise. I've no doubt that Slive thinks Maryland is a better target than Oklahoma.

But if he can't raid the ACC schools, and that may not be feasible now that they've all banded together with Syracuse/Pitt and raised their exit fees, he may not have many other options. Oklahoma is better TV-wise than West Virginia.
 
#121
#121
From a football standpoint adding those four schools would be awesome.

EAST

Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Tennessee
Georgia
Cocks
Vandy
Kentucky

WEST

LSU
Arkansas
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Missouri
Texas A&M

That's about as good as it gets. The East is probably more top-heavy, but its doormats are worse.
 
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#122
I do genuinely believe that the Big XII wants to stay together... But Texas is going to have to play fair if that will happen, even with all the make-nice talk coming out of Norman, I don't buy for a second that they will stay if Texas continues to act like a me-first spoiled brat.
 
#123
#123
Happy to take Oklahoma, and wouldn't put up a huge fuss over Mizzou, but as far as the Pokes go, no thanks. We have no need, no want, and no use for them.
 
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#124
#124
Vercingetorix said:
From a football standpoint adding those four schools would be awesome.

EAST

Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Tennessee
Georgia
Cocks
Vandy
Kentucky

WEST

LSU
Arkansas
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Missouri
Texas A&M

That's about as good as it gets. The East is probably more top-heavy, but its doormats are worse.
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This is what I just posted in another thread and would be my dream expansion. Vols keep all their major rivalries. Nice rotations with the west teams and some potential epic SEC title games.
 
#125
#125
Big game of chicken coming up. I don't really think Oklahoma has much interest in joining the SEC, but I do expect them to try to use that as leverage to extort some concessions out of Texas.

If Texas tells Oklahoma to GFY, then they've got the choice of either going independent -- which is a pain in the arse to do, schedule-wise, as Notre Dame would be the first to tell you -- or try go claw back TCU, promote Houston and SMU, and build a satellite conference around itself. Which I can't see happening. I think I expect Texas and Oklahoma to work something out.
 
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