Mo Couch expected to know Thursday..

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1982Alum said:
We could use him certainly but why would UT allow someone back who intentionally took benefits they knew were illegal in the 1st place? There is no fuzz on that point. Someone with that low moral fiber or mindset should not be on the team. Hope the school says Thanks but No Thanks to Mo and allows him to move on to bigger paydays.
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I don't know Mo personally and quite certain most on here do not but to state that someone has low moral fiber based on the fact that he made a really bad choice tells me a lot about your fiber. The fact that he owned it tells me more about his fiber than the fact that he committed it. Does he have a history of being morally bankrupt that would lead you to state emphatically that he has low moral fiber or is this an attempt by someone perfect who never makes mistakes to judge and condemn someone else. That role is reserved but for one and I'm sure he is not on Volnation.
 
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wtnvol said:
I don't know Mo personally and quite certain most on here do not but to state that someone has low moral fiber based on the fact that he made a really bad choice tells me a lot about your fiber. The fact that he owned it tells me more about his fiber than the fact that he committed it. Does he have a history of being morally bankrupt that would lead you to state emphatically that he has low moral fiber or is this an attempt by someone perfect who never makes mistakes to judge and condemn someone else. That role is reserved but for one and I'm sure he is not on Volnation.
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Good post IMO. You'd think people with any life experience at all would get it, but some don't, they have to sit on their high horses, often look down unusually long noses, and pronounce judgement ... with little to no actual information to decide. "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
 
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At this point, I'd play the guy anyway if the NCAA still hasn't issued their opinion. I would not be held hostage while Alabama and Auburn and Miami get free passes. If we have to vacate a couple wins, it's pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

FreeMo!
 
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Let's settle it so Johhny F**kball can play.
Screw everyone else.
I love the NCAA.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Cause they know the NCAA is a corrupt group of bureaucrats, who is on the one hand raking in Billions of $$$ off their backs every year, while on the other demanding the athletes that generate those $$$ get nothing in return. It's just one big racket, and I don't blame a single one of them. They see the NCAA and the Universities "Getting Paid."...while they cannot.
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So the world is all evil and these players are true saints that can do no wrong?

When they accept illegal gifts and inevitably get caught, they impact potentially millions of VOL fans when the team gets penalized or maybe even banned from bowls/scholarships/etc. They have more than themselves to think about but that is a stretch for today's youth. The ME Generation. All they think about is ME.
 
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1982Alum said:
So the world is all evil and these players are true saints that can do no wrong?

When they accept illegal gifts and inevitably get caught, they impact potentially millions of VOL fans when the team gets penalized or maybe even banned from bowls/scholarships/etc. They have more than themselves to think about but that is a stretch for today's youth. The ME Generation. All they think about is ME.
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If the NCAA wasn't making millions off the players' likeness and names, then you'd have a very solid argument. The NCAA has a double standard which is unethical.
 
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Play Mo --- screw the NCAA for taking so long or did they think for some reason their investigators were Feds and didnt go to work.
 
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davethevol said:
If the NCAA wasn't making millions off the players' likeness and names, then you'd have a very solid argument. The NCAA has a double standard which is unethical.
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If the players want to be paid for their football skills, they should go to the NFL. The players know UPFRONT before they play down 1 in colllege that they are getting room and board and full tuition all fully paid for. A completely free college education but no salary. If they do not like those rules, they can pass on the scholarship offering. When they come to college and decide "its all about ME' " and take illegal benefits, the impact is felt by (potentially) millions. That is nothing but being self centered.
 
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1982Alum said:
If the players want to be paid for their football skills, they should go to the NFL. The players know UPFRONT before they play down 1 in colllege that they are getting room and board and full tuition all fully paid for. A completely free college education but no salary. If they do not like those rules, they can pass on the scholarship offering. When they come to college and decide "its all about ME' " and take illegal benefits, the impact is felt by (potentially) millions. That is nothing but being self centered.
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I would agree with this if they were allowed to enter the NFL at any point. Not being allowed to jump to the NFL to make money is criminal.
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
I would agree with this if they were allowed to enter the NFL at any point. Not being allowed to jump to the NFL to make money is criminal.
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Well gee, the free college education is not nothing. Four year scholarship at a good institution is $150K-$200K. And it will give them the ability to make it on their own long after the playing days are over and the large NFL dollars are long gone.
 
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1982Alum said:
So the world is all evil and these players are true saints that can do no wrong?

When they accept illegal gifts and inevitably get caught, they impact potentially millions of VOL fans when the team gets penalized or maybe even banned from bowls/scholarships/etc. They have more than themselves to think about but that is a stretch for today's youth. The ME Generation. All they think about is ME.
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Golly, thank goodness players were selfless back in 1982 and never took money on the side.

This isn't a new phenomenon to the "Me Generation", grampa. Do you know why Couch took $1400? Could there possibly be extenuating circumstances in which he needed to money?
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
I would agree with this if they were allowed to enter the NFL at any point. Not being allowed to jump to the NFL to make money is criminal.
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That's silly. Lots of the best employers require a college degree, and it's their right to do so. Why should the NFL be any different?
 
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1982Alum said:
If the players want to be paid for their football skills, they should go to the NFL. The players know UPFRONT before they play down 1 in colllege that they are getting room and board and full tuition all fully paid for. A completely free college education but no salary. If they do not like those rules, they can pass on the scholarship offering. When they come to college and decide "its all about ME' " and take illegal benefits, the impact is felt by (potentially) millions. That is nothing but being self centered.
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You may have a solid argument if they had another option. It's not like they can go straight to the NFL. It's absolutely BS. If an athlete is good enough to go pro at the age of 12 they should be able to, let alone after high school. An athletes body is their bank account and it only has a limited time where it's good.
 
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tennesseefan31 said:
You may have a solid argument if they had another option. It's not like they can go straight to the NFL. It's absolutely BS. If an athlete is good enough to go pro at the age of 12 they should be able to, let alone after high school. An athletes body is their bank account and it only has a limited time where it's good.
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Doesn't the NFL make this rule? You seem to be mad at the NCAA about a condition of employment which is imposed by the NFL.
 
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governmentmule said:
it is hard to say what the NCAA will do,Johnny football got away with it,because there was no paper trail,i don't know what Mo's looks like and what can be proven or not

of course the NCAA might want to make an example out of Mo,since they let Manziel get away with it,who knows,best of luck Mo,i would love to see you play this year
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There is no proof in the Johnny Football autograph case.
 
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tennesseefan31 said:
You may have a solid argument if they had another option. It's not like they can go straight to the NFL. It's absolutely BS. If an athlete is good enough to go pro at the age of 12 they should be able to, let alone after high school. An athletes body is their bank account and it only has a limited time where it's good.
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Great point...I would like to see the NCAA require universities to protect theit investments and force universities to insure every player on their roster. This would have a great affect on players staying and would give some to the players for protection.
 
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Sheik Yerbouti said:
Doesn't the NFL make this rule? You seem to be mad at the NCAA about a condition of employment which is imposed by the NFL.
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The NFL should make the rule since they are the ones paying the workers. The rule exists for the players safety. Even clowney who is apparently built for thw league wasnt ready to take the punishment of NFL.
 
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1982Alum said:
If the players want to be paid for their football skills, they should go to the NFL. The players know UPFRONT before they play down 1 in colllege that they are getting room and board and full tuition all fully paid for. A completely free college education but no salary. If they do not like those rules, they can pass on the scholarship offering. When they come to college and decide "its all about ME' " and take illegal benefits, the impact is felt by (potentially) millions. That is nothing but being self centered.
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The NCAA and schools do not own the players. By making games using the players features and selling shirts with players names, it indicates they do. Get rid of those 2 things and the players have nothing to complain about. That is the reason the NCAA is starting to back away from those situations, because it is a blatant hypocrisy and they will lose the court battle.
 
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tennesseefan31 said:
You may have a solid argument if they had another option. It's not like they can go straight to the NFL. It's absolutely BS. If an athlete is good enough to go pro at the age of 12 they should be able to, let alone after high school. An athletes body is their bank account and it only has a limited time where it's good.
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Very narrow mind to say the athlete can only survive his entire lifetime by what he makes with his body while young.

Train his mind with education and he can survive his whole lifetime with a skill that doesn't deteriorate nearly as fast as athletic ability. You will never get the NCAA to agree to pay athletes more than a very nominal amount.

Want to kill the NCAA? Fine. They are screwed up. Then the individual schools will control college athletics $$$ and the whole ball will crash quickly. The schools will never part with their $$$.
 
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