'24 MO WR Ryan Wingo (Texas commit)

[Adam Sandler]

Other states need to get in line and ammend their laws on NIL. The idea that missouri would beat out anyone for a recruit, especially due to something as trivial as money now versus money later, is kind of ridiculous.

 

[Orange.]

Other states need to get in line and ammend their laws on NIL. The idea that missouri would beat out anyone for a recruit, especially due to something as trivial as money now versus money later, is kind of ridiculous.

I'd just as soon that did not become standard. We got everyone we wanted in-state this year except Jefferson iirc, and I don't think such a law would have made a difference in AJ's case.

 

[Adam Sandler]

I'd just as soon that did not become standard. We got everyone we wanted in-state this year except Jefferson iirc, and I don't think such a law would have made a difference in AJ's case.

I meant more if other states were allowing their schools to offer access to NIL funds earlier than stepping foot on campus (regardless of the state the prospect resides in), then misoury would not have gotten Nwaneri and wouldn’t be trending for wingo.

 

[AboveAllNations]

Tiger, Missouri's law clearly gives a favored right to a HS S-A who sign with an instate school while denying that right to a HS S-A who signs with an outstate school. Under equal protection NO state can deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. It mandates that individuals in similar situations e.g. HS S-A , must be treated equally by the law and under Missouri's law they aren't. NIL is interstate commerce and isn't constrained within Missouri's borders or any state's, Missouri can either allow or deny to all HS S-A the ability to pursue NIL agreements but they can't give the right to one group while deny another group.

This analysis initially struck me as baseless and naive, because courts have permitted state schools like UT to charge lower "in-state" tuition rates for decades. However, there are plausible arguments to the contrary, and if the Supreme Court's recent invalidation of affirmative action is any indication, future litigants might have some success challenging education policies that discriminate against out-of-state students. See, e.g., Ryan Griffith, Comment: Is Out-of-State-Tuition Unconstitutional and Could Removing It Ease the United States' Student Debt Crisis?, 52 Golden Gate U. L. Rev. 127 (2022);

 

[sjt18]

dude what is your problem!? I am only saying it looks like he's going where the money is... Just like many others... get over yourself DAD... ignore incoming

Your kneejerk negativism is the "problem". You relish in it. If you don't like it... then either change or put me on ignore. That's a badge I'll be proud to wear.

BTW, it won't keep me from commenting on your stupid kneejerk negativism or mocking your drama queen act.

 

[KingVFL]

This has nothing to do with money and everything to do with Missouri's state law if he ends up there.

I'm not convinced he does, but recruiting is so random right now.

 

[KG1821]

This has nothing to do with money and everything to do with Missouri's state law if he ends up there.

I'm not convinced he does, but recruiting is so random right now.

Isn't their state law allowing them to get paid faster? Wouldn't that have to do with money? Or is there some other clause in the law that makes it more beneficial?

 

[KingVFL]

Isn't their state law allowing them to get paid faster? Wouldn't that have to do with money? Or is there some other clause in the law that makes it more beneficial?

Someone asked the question of amount of money we had access to which is what I was responding to. Sorry yes it has everything to do with timing of money

 

[Voluble2]

One of the surest markers for determining the future success of an individual is their ability to delay gratification.

Waiting a couple of months to get as much or more money, along with getting to play for a better team and increase chances of making it to the NFL should be a no-brainer to all but the most impulsive. And impulsive kids are the ones most likely to get into trouble while in college, or to cause problems in the locker room. So as things stand now, it is not something which is entirely in Missouri's favor.

Of course, you don't want a team full of accountants either.

But just from a money perspective, TN has a built in 5% advantage over MO in the income tax rate. That would be a bigger factor for me, even at that age.

 

[WillisWG]

This analysis initially struck me as baseless and naive, because courts have permitted state schools like UT to charge lower "in-state" tuition rates for decades. However, there are plausible arguments to the contrary, and if the Supreme Court's recent invalidation of affirmative action is any indication, future litigants might have some success challenging education policies that discriminate against out-of-state students. See, e.g., Ryan Griffith, Comment: Is Out-of-State-Tuition Unconstitutional and Could Removing It Ease the United States' Student Debt Crisis?, 52 Golden Gate U. L. Rev. 127 (2022);

Baseless and naive, interesting.

Different treatment for similarly situated parties, especially when no legitimate reason appears to exist is discrimination.

I don't want to widen the discussion, so I"ll stay on topic. I expect this portion of the law to be challenged and overturned.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Someone asked the question of amount of money we had access to which is what I was responding to. Sorry yes it has everything to do with timing of money

He and Nwaneri need to strongly consider the short term financial gain going to Mizzou (positive) versus the potential long term financial loss of going to Mizzou (big negative), since it is very likely they won’t get developed as well as they will at other programs.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

How’s it funny whenever they’re double digits spots behind us in recruiting?

Are you this naive?

What does their recruiting ranking have to do with anything?

 

[jasonvol18]

Then you need to also have a draft.

Definitely

 

[DaddyChad]

@KingNico I believe you said Spyre has money, but much of it is paying the current team members. Once't this class graduates, do you see us freeing up more funds for 25?

Not that we will pay $700K for a DL or WR. That's ridiculous, not sustaining. seriously who taught the morons money management.

Some aren’t worried about sustaining. Missouri needs to get as many kids as they can before that law is struck down. Auburn has been itching to spend some cash as well. Miami faded this year since Ruiz is under investigation. Tennessee has been a constant in the regional top guys group of school. We just have to succeed more on the field like Bama, Clemson and Georgia if we want to close. As far as NIL give me a balanced spending plan instead of blowing it on a few kids; it’s not sustainable and there will be significant lockerroom issues because of the disparity in what kids make.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Not sure how that fits into his plans to announce in December but if it’s the word on the street…

Guess you missed Chad Simmons most recent Wingo update

 

[SSVol]

This analysis initially struck me as baseless and naive, because courts have permitted state schools like UT to charge lower "in-state" tuition rates for decades. However, there are plausible arguments to the contrary, and if the Supreme Court's recent invalidation of affirmative action is any indication, future litigants might have some success challenging education policies that discriminate against out-of-state students. See, e.g., Ryan Griffith, Comment: Is Out-of-State-Tuition Unconstitutional and Could Removing It Ease the United States' Student Debt Crisis?, 52 Golden Gate U. L. Rev. 127 (2022);

Not an attorney, but instate residents would be expected to be paying state taxes and a discount toward a state provided service would make sense. Don't think NIL is remotely similar.

 

[VOLociraptorr]

Mizzous new law
I have a long term NIL but I need cash now

 

[volsfan24017]

Mizzous new law
I have a long term settlement but I need cash now

Call Eli Drinkiwitz..... 877-HUNG70 ON US!

 

[DaddyChad]

Other states need to get in line and ammend their laws on NIL. The idea that missouri would beat out anyone for a recruit, especially due to something as trivial as money now versus money later, is kind of ridiculous.

Depends on how desperate they are for money. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone flipped Nwaneri before he’s even on campus at missouri. Some schools don’t need a BS state law to pay someone early. Watch Auburn or the like swoop in before he signs LOI.

 

[MarcoVol]

Other states need to get in line and ammend their laws on NIL. The idea that missouri would beat out anyone for a recruit, especially due to something as trivial as money now versus money later, is kind of ridiculous.

Mizzou could just be offering a lot more money to a couple guys that no one else is willing to

 

[BowlBrother85]

Guess you missed Chad Simmons most recent Wingo update

In the last update I read from Simmons, he didn't say anything about Wingo moving up his commitment date. He did say that the most "chatter" at the moment was between Texas and Missouri, but he also said that Tennessee was still very much in it ... and Wingo would be visiting Tennessee during the season. Are you referring to a more recent update? That was from late July.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Mizzou could just be offering a lot more money to a couple guys that no one else is willing to

Missouri is desperate to keep their in-state 5 stars ... When you are competing against a school whose focus is only on a few players, it will be hard to outspend them for those players.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Missouri is desperate to keep their in-state 5 stars ... When you are competing against a school whose focus is only on a few players, it will be hard to outspend them for those players.

And the fact they can’t sell on the field success to these players.

 

[DaddyChad]

And the fact they can’t sell on the field success to these players.

They can accumulate talent all they want they still have Drink coaching. It’s like having a Lamborghini with a lawnmower engine.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Gonna laugh pretty hard when M-I-D goes 5-7 this year (giving them credit for beating UF), and Nwaneri and Wingo are like "nah".