Mollie Tibbetts murder suspect arrested

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sammyhagar said:
Thank GOD no American citizens commit murder. Once we get rid of all the ILLEGALS we can resume living in our peaceful utopia.

Whatever it takes to keep my suburban, yuppie, red-lined community feeling safe, secure and superior.

Except gun control; if my kid and a few thousand others get shot up at school, well that's just the price of freedom.
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Most of the murders commited in the USA are by Democrats so technically they aren't really Americans at all thus there aren't really that many actual Americans committing murder.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Thanks for proving my point. We have enough crap in their country already. There’s no need to keep adding to it.
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But but muh child seperation muh muh concentration camps muh muh poor undocumented immigrants muh muh you're an immigrant no YOURE an immigrant muh muh deflect at all costs..
 
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n_huffhines said:
So we're not doing nothing, we're just not winning, is what you mean.

I'll take losing over being the architects of America's destruction. Either way we all lose, but at least I'm not complicit
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You’re heavily involved in America’s destruction. You’re pushing for as much trash as possible to be here and have them all on hard drugs.

Did you actually vote FOR Gary Johnson?

What a winning combo! Lol
 
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hog88 said:
Libertarians are losing because they only want to shoot for the big prize. There is no interest in building a grass roots alternative to the two parties, then they (you follow the playbook) like to throw up their hands and say "not my fault I didn't vote for them, I'm a libertarian".

You are complicit, just as much as me and every adult in this country. You are complicit due to your inaction, I'm complicit due to some of the candidates I supported in the past and every eligible voter is complicit for allowing our government to become what it has become.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
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I'm sure you believe in original sin, too. These arguments are tired and they are just as stupid as they were 5 years ago.

You just hung your hat on the notion that you are doing something by opposing establishment R's, LMAO. Who supports ER's more, L's or R's? Who opposes ER's more, L's or R's? Your arguments are so bad.
 
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hog88 said:
Libertarians are losing because they only want to shoot for the big prize. There is no interest in building a grass roots alternative to the two parties, then they (you follow the playbook) like to throw up their hands and say "not my fault I didn't vote for them, I'm a libertarian".

You are complicit, just as much as me and every adult in this country. You are complicit due to your inaction, I'm complicit due to some of the candidates I supported in the past and every eligible voter is complicit for allowing our government to become what it has become.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
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Currently there is a war on for the soul of the libertarian party.

Hopefully these guys can get the party back to the principals the LP was founded upon.

Mises Caucus - LPedia
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm sure you believe in original sin, too. These arguments are tired and they are just as stupid as they were 5 years ago.

You just hung your hat on the notion that you are doing something by opposing establishment R's, LMAO. Who supports ER's more, L's or R's? Who opposes ER's more, L's or R's? Your arguments are so bad.
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Kids, this is what it looks like when you are a sore loser.

Go whine somewhere else.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Currently there is a war on for the soul of the libertarian party.

Hopefully these guys can get the party back to the principals the LP was founded upon.

Mises Caucus - LPedia
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That's great, hopefully the L party will take these principles and get more involved in local and state politics. That's the ONLY way the party will EVER be anything other than a sideshow.

Also, they need to shout down and disavow the Huffs claiming to libertarians. They make the party look bad.
 
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hog88 said:
That's great, hopefully the L party will take these principles and get more involved in local and state politics. That's the ONLY way the party will EVER be anything other than a sideshow.

Also, they need to shout down and disavow the Huffs claiming to libertarians. They make the party look bad.
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It’s not about winning with libertarians. It’s about spreading the message of liberty and the adherence to principles. Consistency is very important.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
It’s not about winning with libertarians. It’s about spreading the message of liberty and the adherence to principles. Consistency is very important.
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So the libertarian party is the Vanderbilt of the political world, "it's not whether you win or lose it's how you play the game". Useless! The victor writes the rules.

If you don't win and have no way to influence or implement policy you message is just hot air.
 
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hog88 said:
So the libertarian party is the Vanderbilt of the political world, "it's not whether you win or lose it's how you play the game". Useless! The victor writes the rules.

If you don't win and have no way to influence or implement policy you message is just hot air.
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I'd rather lose and be a good person than a winner who is responsible for $20t of debt and a murderous, authoritarian thug of a state.
 
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hog88 said:
So the libertarian party is the Vanderbilt of the political world, "it's not whether you win or lose it's how you play the game". Useless! The victor writes the rules.

If you don't win and have no way to influence or implement policy you message is just hot air.
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It’s delicate. There is a huge difference between party (big L) Libertarians and (small l) libertarian/anarchists like me, and I assume Huff.

It’s mostly about spreading the message of liberty and having a voice in the debates so those more liberty friendly ideas can be heard in the mainstream of the trash heap of politics.

Personally I abstain from voting for national candidates, I vote locally only. The only policy I want to advocate is an abolition of policy altogether.
 
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If I behave like a Republican, then R's and D's keep winning. Nothing changes.

If I keep doing what I'm doing, R's and D's will keep winning. Nothing changes.

So why do I need to join the R's? At least I have my integrity and principles. I didn't even vote for Gary Johnson last election because he lost me. He wasn't representative enough. If everybody acted like me, democracy would work a lot better. I'm leading by example. It may not change anything, but neither does voting for the lesser of two evils.
 
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n_huffhines said:
If I behave like a Republican, then R's and D's keep winning. Nothing changes.

If I keep doing what I'm doing, R's and D's will keep winning. Nothing changes.

So why do I need to join the R's? At least I have my integrity and principles. I didn't even vote for Gary Johnson last election because he lost me. He wasn't representative enough. If everybody acted like me, democracy would work a lot better. I'm leading by example. It may not change anything, but neither does voting for the lesser of two evils.
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.... And that’s not Narcistic and overinflated self worth at all is it ? Lol
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
It’s delicate. There is a huge difference between party (big L) Libertarians and (small l) libertarian/anarchists like me, and I assume Huff.

It’s mostly about spreading the message of liberty and having a voice in the debates so those more liberty friendly ideas can be heard in the mainstream of the trash heap of politics.

Personally I abstain from voting for national candidates, I vote locally only. The only policy I want to advocate is an abolition of policy altogether.
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You'll never have a voice in the debate until you start winning offices.
 
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n_huffhines said:
We've already established we do the same things, it's just that you've chosen to support a side that wins....and then grows government.
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Wrong as usual, I've recognized my mistakes and am no longer voting for incumbent or establishment candidates. I vote every time the pols are open but I have been writing myself in or voting whatever fringe candidate is on the ballot. I tried to get our local L party involved in the last county commission race to try and oust the dirtbag R holding the office in my district, exact quote "we're not interested in getting involved in local races".
 
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