'25 MS QB Deuce Knight (Auburn commit)

[walkenvol]

Dug back through my pre internet recruiting newspaper clippings file. Shows Manning as the #2 and Stewart as the # 4 ranked qb recruits in 1994

 

[KnoxToTheBoro93]

I’m right about more than people are willing to admit. A lot of people just don’t like some of what I say because it’s critical towards the staff that has brought us back from the dead. People don’t realize you can appreciate what a staff does while also wanting them to improve on their shortcomings

And you fail to realize that coach heup ain’t relaxed and he constantly wants improvement as well much more than you could ever want… it’s almost like you forget we was 3-7 2 seasons ago… although we won a lot it’s still more to be done it’s a process but heup has shown he has what it takes and is willing to put in the work to get there you just harp on and over exaggerate the negatives.

 

[BigorangeBoy]

Only thing I can find.................

EDIT:

Tom Lemming 1994 QBs

1Booty, Josh LSU
2Manning, Peyton Tennessee
3Clement, Ryan Miami
4Mutryn, Scott Boston College
5Walton, Richard Texas
6Wright, Anthony South Carolina
7Phillips, John Alabama
8Williams, Keith Louisville
9Ornstein, Gus Notre Dame
10Abramson, Lloyd Northwestern
11Kim, Jeff Indiana
12Dreisbach, Scott Michigan
13Covington, Scott Miami
14Campbell, Steve Arizona St
15Farris, Mark Texas A&M
16Hoekstra, Mark Illinois
17Laureano, Juan NC State
18Stewart, Brandon Tennessee
19Samuel, Mike Wisconsin
20Smith, Keith Arizona

Number 7 on that list is the father of our incoming freshman basketball player

 

[TrippieRedd]

Only thing I can find.................

EDIT:

Tom Lemming 1994 QBs

1Booty, Josh LSU
2Manning, Peyton Tennessee
3Clement, Ryan Miami
4Mutryn, Scott Boston College
5Walton, Richard Texas
6Wright, Anthony South Carolina
7Phillips, John Alabama
8Williams, Keith Louisville
9Ornstein, Gus Notre Dame
10Abramson, Lloyd Northwestern
11Kim, Jeff Indiana
12Dreisbach, Scott Michigan
13Covington, Scott Miami
14Campbell, Steve Arizona St
15Farris, Mark Texas A&M
16Hoekstra, Mark Illinois
17Laureano, Juan NC State
18Stewart, Brandon Tennessee
19Samuel, Mike Wisconsin
20Smith, Keith Arizona

Is Braylon related to Maurice?

 

[peaygolf]

Is Braylon related to Maurice?

I don’t think so…..nothing I could find anyway

 

[BelieveTheHeup93]

And you fail to realize that coach heup ain’t relaxed and he constantly wants improvement as well much more than you could ever want… it’s almost like you forget we was 3-7 2 seasons ago… although we won a lot it’s still more to be done it’s a process but heup has shown he has what it takes and is willing to put in the work to get there you just harp on and over exaggerate the negatives.

No, I give this staff a lot of credit for what they’ve done. I just think the staff as a whole has made some mistakes when it comes to recruiting and that Willie Martinez shouldn’t have been allowed back on the team bus after the South Carolina game

 

[bigl3327]

Deuce is apparently down to UT and Notre Dame as his finalists. It's very clear that he's just waiting for us to give him the green light. The latest on George MacIntyre is that it's a UT vs Bama battle for his pledge, but he's not expected to do anything until January. Madden Iamaleava has been lights out on the 7v7 circuit this summer. Most don't think there's anyway we land Deuce and GMac both, but if Madden has a big season, we need to manage to sign some combination of the three. Who you got and why?

This is to fill the void while we wait on commitments. This may be a completely different discussion once their junior seasons are played.

 

[Big Orange#1]

Let’s roll with deuce

 

[SugarCC]

Deuce is apparently down to UT and Notre Dame as his finalists. It's very clear that he's just waiting for us to give him the green light. The latest on George MacIntyre is that it's a UT vs Bama battle for his pledge, but he's not expected to do anything until January. Madden Iamaleava has been lights out on the 7v7 circuit this summer. Most don't think there's anyway we land Deuce and GMac both, but if Madden has a big season, we need to manage to sign some combination of the three. Who you got and why?

This is to fill the void while we wait on commitments. This may be a completely different discussion once their junior seasons are played.

You go after, and continue going after, whoever is numero uno on your board. If that is GM, you may have to gamble, but you can't compromise if he is the undisputed #1. You battle Bama or whoever until the end. If you see him and Deuce as equals, feel great with either one, take whoever wants in first.

We have to pursue Madden, no matter what...considering the kid has what it takes. We have to pursue 2 QBs in this class.

 

[bigl3327]

You go after, and continue going after, whoever is numero uno on your board. If that is GM, you may have to gamble, but you can't compromise if he is the undisputed #1. You battle Bama or whoever until the end. If you see him and Deuce as equals, feel great with either one, take whoever wants in first.

We have to pursue Madden, no matter what...considering the kid has what it takes. We have to pursue 2 QBs in this class.

The word is after having both (GMac and Deuce) work out on campus this summer, there is much in- house debate on who should be #1 on the board. There is also a lot of pressure to land MacIntyre because he's in- state. He's likely to stay in the top 3 in the QB rankings and be a consensus 5*. You can't concede his recruitment to Bama unless you land the consensus #1 rated QB in the country, even if you have someone higher on your board. It's quite the dilemma, unless he commits to Bama before you take a QB.

 

[SugarCC]

The word is after having both (GMac and Deuce) work out on campus this summer, there is much in- house debate on who should be #1 on the board. There is also a lot of pressure to land MacIntyre because he's in- state. He's likely to stay in the top 3 in the QB rankings and be a consensus 5*. You can't concede his recruitment to Bama unless you land the consensus #1 rated QB in the country, even if you have someone higher on your board. It's quite the dilemma, unless he commits to Bama before you take a QB.

This is my thinking...Hypothetically, GM is consensus 5*, Top 3 QB...Deuce, high 4*, #7 QB...if you like Deuce more, that's who you go after, damn in-state.

Evals are DEFINITELY going to be put under the microscope on this one. Yes, if GM ends with those rankings, it would be an absolute homerun to land him...just on the surface, publicity wise and all that, he may could be the biggest recruit we've ever landed; BUT!!, if you believe Deuce is truly better, or will be, that's who you go after. Things like rankings, instate, headlines, etc...at the end of the day, those things don't matter one bit compared to your evals and your board, you know.

If the services make GM the consensus #1 overall, and Heupel wants Deuce...I roll with Heup. He sees something no one else is seeing, and I trust him completely...especially at that position.

 

[bigl3327]

This is my thinking...Hypothetically, GM is consensus 5*, Top 3 QB...Deuce, high 4*, #7 QB...if you like Deuce more, that's who you go after, damn in-state.

Evals are DEFINITELY going to be put under the microscope on this one. Yes, if GM ends with those rankings, it would be an absolute homerun to land him...just on the surface, publicity wise and all that, he may could be the biggest recruit we've ever landed; BUT!!, if you believe Deuce is truly better, or will be, that's who you go after. Things like rankings, instate, headlines, etc...at the end of the day, those things don't matter one bit compared to your evals and your board, you know.

If the services make GM the consensus #1 overall, and Heupel wants Deuce...I roll with Heup. He sees something no one else is seeing, and I trust him completely...especially at that position.

Judging from the vast improvement seen from Deuce this summer vs last season, he's going to get a major bump in the rankings. I honestly don't see him being any lower than #4 after this season, but likely to end up top 3 in that QB class. Like you said, the rankings are solely about public perception. Here's my take.... If you remove the whole in- state thing, which one would you choose if they had subpar talent around them? Which has the best chance to take over a game on pure ability? I have no doubts that Heupel could run a high scoring offense and win 10+ games with either. The question is which gives you the best chance against a team that is superior to yours from a talent perspective?

 

[gmoneyvol]

Deuce Knight is Hendon Hooker 2.0

 

[SugarCC]

Judging from the vast improvement seen from Deuce this summer vs last season, he's going to get a major bump in the rankings. I honestly don't see him being any lower than #4 after this season, but likely to end up top 3 in that QB class. Like you said, the rankings are solely about public perception. Here's my take.... If you remove the whole in- state thing, which one would you choose if they had subpar talent around them? Which has the best chance to take over a game on pure ability? I have no doubts that Heupel could run a high scoring offense and win 10+ games with either. The question is which gives you the best chance against a team that is superior to yours from a talent perspective?

Deuce

I don't say that lightly. I will always want a QB who can make the throws, above all else...but, now days, he HAS TO be able to make a play, either way...Bryce Young as my example.

If Deuce can continue getting better spinning it, I believe he's more dynamic; although GM can take off from pressure, too, whenever he has to.

 

[bigl3327]

Deuce

I don't say that lightly. I will always want a QB who can make the throws, above all else...but, now days, he HAS TO be able to make a play, either way...Bryce Young as my example.

If Deuce can continue getting better spinning it, I believe he's more dynamic; although GM can take off from pressure, too, whenever he has to.

I asked those questions because I think Macintyre is a championship QB if you surround him with NFL caliber talent. The one major advantage he has(currently) that I could see from their sophomore highlights is that he throws a beautiful deep ball. I don't know if it's the offense that Deuce is in, or if he took deep shots and just didn't complete them, but he doesn't have highlights of him connecting deep. I've seen him do it multiple times this summer in 7v7 play, so I hope we see that from him this fall. This offense is predicated on hitting the deep throws when they are there. You covered the differences from an athletic standpoint, and I agree . I also think Deuce would remain in the class regardless of who else commits at QB. I don't get that same vibe from Macintyre, but I could be wrong. Either way, it's not a bad situation to be in. My question is do you risk losing both by waiting on Mac?

 

[SugarCC]

I asked those questions because I think Macintyre is a championship QB if you surround him with NFL caliber talent. The one major advantage he has(currently) that I could see from their sophomore highlights is that he throws a beautiful deep ball. I don't know if it's the offense that Deuce is in, or if he took deep shots and just didn't complete them, but he doesn't have highlights of him connecting deep. I've seen him do it multiple times this summer in 7v7 play, so I hope we see that from him this fall. This offense is predicated on hitting the deep throws when they are there. You covered the differences from an athletic standpoint, and I agree . I also think Deuce would remain in the class regardless of who else commits at QB. I don't get that same vibe from Macintyre, but I could be wrong. Either way, it's not a bad situation to be in. My question is do you risk losing both by waiting on Mac?

Me, personally, i take Deuce, if he wants in.

However, if Mac is Heup's #1 target, yes...you gamble...if he sees him as the next Nico. I also trust Heupel to be able to pivot to someone else, if it looks like it's not going our way...that someone may not be top 10 QB; but, I trust him enough to land someone pretty good. Someone like Tayven Jackson or a bit better. Even though that didn't work out, someone like him is not a bad consolation prize, if we go all in and miss.

 

[feathersax]

Let’s roll with deuce

Like in 2-Knight?

 

[SoilVol]

Imo, you take Deuce and keep recruiting Mac and Madden. You need two.

Mac might be the most polished at this point but it's obvious that Deuce is actively improving and is the better athlete. I think Deuce is a better fit for this offense but could be wrong. Mac might be a better pro prospect. Dabo is probably selling him as being Trevor Lawrence 2.0.

But all things considered Deuce has been wanting to be a Vol for a long time and there's something to be said for that.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

The word is after having both (GMac and Deuce) work out on campus this summer, there is much in- house debate on who should be #1 on the board. There is also a lot of pressure to land MacIntyre because he's in- state. He's likely to stay in the top 3 in the QB rankings and be a consensus 5*. You can't concede his recruitment to Bama unless you land the consensus #1 rated QB in the country, even if you have someone higher on your board. It's quite the dilemma, unless he commits to Bama before you take a QB.

Who would have thought a few years ago the UT would have this kind of dilemma….thank you CJH

 

[Jackcrevol]

Who would have thought a few years ago the UT would have this kind of dilemma….thank you CJH

Do you guys see us taking Duece this early?

 

[volfan2022]

The word is after having both (GMac and Deuce) work out on campus this summer, there is much in- house debate on who should be #1 on the board. There is also a lot of pressure to land MacIntyre because he's in- state. He's likely to stay in the top 3 in the QB rankings and be a consensus 5*. You can't concede his recruitment to Bama unless you land the consensus #1 rated QB in the country, even if you have someone higher on your board. It's quite the dilemma, unless he commits to Bama before you take a QB.

this is right. george's sister is at ut and mom went to ut. you get george if you go all in imo

 

[Glitch]

Do you guys see us taking Duece this early?

As a fellow old, there is a coffee joke here.

 

[Jackcrevol]

As a fellow old, there is a coffee joke here.

i think i've pushed the limits of Frank's good graces today.

Better leave that one on the table.

 

[cncchris33]

This might sound shallow or unimportant to some, but I'd prefer GMac simply on the premise of being a right-handed quarterback, as opposed to Deuce, who is left-handed.

I say that assuming all things are equal and I have to pick something as a tiebreaker. The list of successful NFL QBs who are left-handed is very short. College QBs probably a little longer, but also a much deeper pool of players, too.

 

[TrippieRedd]

This might sound shallow or unimportant to some, but I'd prefer GMac simply on the premise of being a right-handed quarterback, as opposed to Deuce, who is left-handed.

I say that assuming all things are equal and I have to pick something as a tiebreaker. The list of successful NFL QBs who are left-handed is very short. College QBs probably a little longer, but also a much deeper pool of players, too.

Not worried about that.

Heupel is a lefty and I’m sure he knows how to adjust the offense for a lefty