MTG Calls for Red State Secession

[Weezer]

When I pay attention, it's more, "I don't like it when people from a liberal state get their way."

I support them doing whatever they want in their state. Whether or not it should apply to all states is a different argument.

 

[Orangeburst]

When I pay attention, it's more, "I don't like it when people from a liberal state get their way."

False premise

The fact that another state can impose its views on another state via Federalism that deifies the USC

 

[clarksvol00]

Because I believe states have the right not that I support exercising that right.

To co-opt a term, you're not into fear-porn, you're into secession-porn.

 

[clarksvol00]

The precedent that the US federal government has a history of relinquishing owned property and leaving it in a seperate country ...or in this case...state.

Fairly easy concept to grasp.

I don't like that precedent. Maybe I'd support fighting back.

 

[DC_Vol]

To co-opt a term, you're not into fear-porn, you're into secession-porn.

Why do you have such a hang up with people discussing the topic of the thread? It’s bad mouth the source or GTFO?

I think it’s an interesting discussion.

 

[Orangeburst]

To co-opt a term, you're not into fear-porn, you're into secession-porn.

Dont derail with hyperbolic

 

[clarksvol00]

Why do you have such a hang up with people discussing the topic of the thread? It’s bad mouth the source or GTFO?

I think it’s an interesting discussion.

I think it's a silly topic.

 

[clarksvol00]

Dont derail with hyperbolic

Every time secession comes up, it's a circle jerk.

 

[DC_Vol]

Every time secession comes up, it's a circle jerk.

LOL where is the circle jerk exactly?

 

[clarksvol00]

LOL where is the circle jerk exactly?

Most recently? Right here.

 

[DC_Vol]

Most recently? Right here.

Yeah, but who is in the circle? And what does one say or believe to be included?

 

[Orangeburst]

Every time secession comes up, it's a circle jerk.

Not something I would ever hope for sure. But reality.
Federalism is a failure in many ways..and good at times
I just ask for balance.
I want a strong nation. This **** aint cutting it with their own version of "Top Down"

 

[clarksvol00]

Yeah, but who is in the circle? And what does one say or believe to be included?

"Everytime we don't like something or everytime somebody mentions secession, let's talk about how awesome/relevant/legitimate/secession would be if we actually wanted to do it, but we really dont want to do it, we just want to talk about it A LOT."

 

[clarksvol00]

Not something I would ever hope for sure. But reality.
Federalism is a failure in many ways..and good at times
I just ask for balance.
I want a strong nation. This **** aint cutting it with their own version of "Top Down"

Federalism isn't the problem, it's the migration to the fringe.

 

[McDad]

I don't like that precedent. Maybe I'd support fighting back.

That's the unfortunate reality about precedents, it matters not whether or not you like them.

 

[Orangeburst]

Federalism isn't the problem, it's the migration to the fringe.

No sir. it is

 

[Orangeburst]

The fringe is subjective

 

[McDad]

I think it's a silly topic.

This is the most fascinating part of the discussion.

Vocal, frequent, contribution in a thread on a silly topic without any silliness contained in your posts.

 

[clarksvol00]

That's the unfortunate reality about precedents, it matters not whether or not you like them.

Actually, it doesn't. Just because the military left some vehicles in Afghanistan, doesn't mean they're going to give a secessionist state Fort Hood or a bunch of nuclear missile silos.

 

[Orangeburst]

I didnt call for a fundamental transformation of our nation 2 decades ago . Who did?

 

[clarksvol00]

This is the most fascinating part of the discussion.

Vocal, frequent, contribution in a thread on a silly topic without any silliness contained in your posts.

I don't mind calling out silliness.

 

[Orangeburst]

Actually, it doesn't. Just because the military left some vehicles in Afghanistan, doesn't mean they're going to give a secessionist state Fort Hood or a bunch of nuclear missile silos.

Threre ya go. $61M down the hole.

 

[clarksvol00]

No sir. it is

Move to a country with a government you like.

 

[McDad]

Actually, it doesn't. Just because the military left some vehicles in Afghanistan, doesn't mean they're going to give a secessionist state Fort Hood or a bunch of nuclear missile silos.

I didn't say they would. I said it may be akin to that approach and there is a precedent. I also said it was fine by me if the Fed wants their stuff back.

 

[clarksvol00]

Threre ya go. $61M down the hole.

I'm not sure what your point is.