MTG Calls for Red State Secession

[clarksvol00]

And the USC covers ambiguity with the 10th amendment.

I guess if they're seeding they aren't a state, the 10th doesn't apply, and all bets are off.

 

[Orangeburst]

Just look at RvW and to The States.

 

[McDad]

And the USC covers ambiguity with the 10th amendment.

Seems plain to me, too.

 

[hog88]

Seems plain to me, too.

Me too but I’m not very smart.

 

[Orangeburst]

I guess if they're seeding they aren't a state, the 10th doesn't apply, and all bets are off.

What does that mean?

If one doesn't follow laws one should follow non law?

 

[clarksvol00]

Isn't that where Article X comes in to play. Ambiguity...not specified in the Constitution?

Then the feds can come in and take anything they see as federal property in that foreign nation with force?

 

[McDad]

I guess if they're seeding they aren't a state, the 10th doesn't apply, and all bets are off.

If it was a state prior to joining (which it was), then it's a state after leaving and while going through the process of leaving.

 

[McDad]

Then the feds can come in and take anything they see as federal property in that foreign nation with force?

Fine with me as long as proven it belongs to the Fed.

 

[clarksvol00]

What does that mean?

If one doesn't follow laws one should follow non law?

Wut?

 

[Orangeburst]

Wut?

Exactly

 

[Orangeburst]

There is law and then following and implementing of law. Just because it isn't prosecuted doesn't mean it isn't unlawful.

But screw it..Subjective law is the name of the game

 

[hog88]

Then the feds can come in and take anything they see as federal property in that foreign nation with force?

They did that last time and would most likely do it again.

 

[hog88]

Fine with me as long as proven it belongs to the Fed.

Fed owns nothing. They never paid for anything.

 

[clarksvol00]

There is law and then following and implementing of law. Just because it isn't prosecuted doesn't mean it isn't unlawful.

But screw it..Subjective law is the name of the game

Sure seems like the game you're playing. "I don't like Fed law x so I'm out."

 

[Vol8188]

There you go again.

And to be clear, I think the UK leaving was stupid. But they certainly had the legal right to.

So this is your objection? You could of saved us the lame “I just think the two are different routine” and stated this earlier.

You think the UK had a right to leave but a state does not. And you base this on….? Why would the group of people within a the state of California have less right to self governance than those in the state of England?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Bless your heart.

That's as much substance as you are capable of these days. You should save the well-wishes for yourself.

 

[Vol8188]

Then the feds can come in and take anything they see as federal property in that foreign nation with force?

Why are you already proposing the use of “force”? Feels a bit gross

 

[clarksvol00]

Fine with me as long as proven it belongs to the Fed.

Dams, interstates, highways, power plants, all some benefits of federal largesse you enjoy and depend upon if you are a Tennessean.

 

[Orangeburst]

Sure seems like the game you're playing. "I don't like Fed law x so I'm out."

Weak

 

[clarksvol00]

They did that last time and would most likely do it again.

You are right about that.

 

[BowlBrother85]

You would have to have the IQ of a turnip to believe anything that Klan Mom has to say. She is a certifiable nut case.

Agreed ... and that doesn't say much for the MAGA crowd, or for the voters of Georgia's 14th Congressional District, who elected and re-elected her by overwhelming margins.

 

[clarksvol00]

Weak

Yeah. Your secessionist pipe dream is pretty weak.

 

[McDad]

Dams, interstates, highways, power plants, all some benefits of federal largesse you enjoy and depend upon if you are a Tennessean.

Perhaps those things are akin to what Uncle Sam left behind in the Middle East, as well as Army bases in other countries.

Divorce is messy.

 

[tvolsfan]

So this is your objection? You could of saved us the lame “I just think the two are different routine” and stated this earlier.

You think the UK had a right to leave but a state does not. And you base this on….? Why would the group of people within a the state of California have less right to self governance than those in the state of England?

UK had a defined legal right spelled out in the treaty. And the EU isn’t a country. So, again, the situations are, indisputably, different.

 

[Weezer]

Me too but I’m not very smart.

Some people lack reading comprehension. I blame the subpar education system enforced by the federal government.