MTG Calls for Red State Secession

[85SugarVol]

Honestly I don't think they are, particularly if they say they are doing it unilaterally.

So you are not ok with Hawaii leaving.

 

[85SugarVol]

Again, why are you attributing people moving to their political leanings? All you have to go on are numbers. Old people like warm weather. That’s obvious and undeniable.

Climate Change has already turned California into a frozen wasteland.

 

[hog88]

Presumably for lower cost of living and taxes. The same reason Americans may retire in Panama.

Ok, then how is the quality of life worse in every way? He made the claim and won't explain it.

 

[85SugarVol]

The vast majority of blue state folks who moved to Georgia still vote blue in my experience.

What’s the primary driver pushing blue state folks to Georgia?

 

[WoodsmanVol]

“No, no, no. When my side does it, it’s justified.”

Should we require a passing grade on a US history and US Constitution exam to be eligible to serve in Congress? I have a pretty good idea of which party would come out on top for that one.

I'm in favor of this because MTG along with a good number of other political pouting punks would fail it.

 

[LouderVol]

What’s the primary driver pushing blue state folks to Georgia?

They didnt like their home state. Better opportunities, lower cost of living, less crime, closer to the water, warmth.

 

[hog88]

They didnt like their home state. Better opportunities, lower cost of living, less crime, closer to the water, warmth.

But it's been claimed that the quality of life is much better where they came from.

 

[utvolpj]

But it's been claimed that the quality of life is much better where they came from.

Having my kids miss no school greatly improved their life. Unfortunately so many weren't offered the same chance by their blue overlords

 

[85SugarVol]

They didnt like their home state. Better opportunities, lower cost of living, less crime, closer to the water, warmth.

Compared to the great state of California?

 

[EasternVol]

When has Congress added a state without its consent?

The whole West Virginia statehood thing was pretty dodgy.

 

[VolinMichigan]

California???

California lost a net of 50,000 people last year. Oh no, they still have nearly 40 million people living there. And its still the largest economy in the country.

 

[hog88]

California lost a net of 50,000 people last year. Oh no, they still have nearly 40 million people living there. And its still the largest economy in the country.

But why are they leaving if by every (unexplained by you) measurable the quality of life is so much better than where they are moving to?

 

[VolinMichigan]

It was you that said red states trail blue states in quality of life in every measurable yet you haven’t let us know what those measurables are. Also if red states have such a bad quality of life why are people moving there?

Access to quality healthcare, climate, housing, education, life expectancy, infant mortality, murder/violent crime rate, regressive laws, availability and cost of childcare (which has shot up in importance for young people looking to start a family because most can't afford to not have both parents work) etc. Cost of living isn't the only thing that matters to people. Also, what's important to families might not be important to retirees. Bad public education systems don't matter to retirees. Infant mortality doesn't matter to retirees. But those two things are very important to a family with young kids or a young couple looking to have kids.

 

[VolinMichigan]

I'm in favor of this because MTG along with a good number of other political pouting punks would fail it.

Hell, a sitting Senator from Alabama didn't even know the three branches of government.

 

[hog88]

Access to quality healthcare, climate, education, life expectancy, infant mortality, murder/violent crime rate, regressive laws, availability and cost of childcare (which has shot up in importance for young people looking to start a family because most can't afford to not have both parents work) etc. Cost of living isn't the only thing that matters to people. Also, what's important to families might not be important to retirees. Bad public education systems don't matter to retirees. Infant mortality doesn't matter to retirees. But those two things are very important to a family with young kids or a young couple looking to have kids.

Got any data, a link to back this up?

Completely anecdotal but the majority of people I see moving to my little patch of TN are young people mostly of child bearing age or with kids. I haven't seen many retirees moving in.

 

[VolinMichigan]

Climate Change has already turned California into a frozen wasteland.

It's turning southern California into a drier desert. Forest fires have increased in frequency and scale due to severe drought that's affecting the entire southwestern US.

 

[VolinMichigan]

Got any data, a link to back this up?

Completely anecdotal but the majority of people I see moving to my little patch of TN are young people mostly of child bearing age or with kids. I haven't seen many retirees moving in.

Here's the first one that popped up in a google search for me.

Worst States to Live in 2023

 

[NorthDallas40]

California lost a net of 50,000 people last year. Oh no, they still have nearly 40 million people living there. And its still the largest economy in the country.

Those couple of prior years added on tho. Lol.

California's population dropped by 500,000 in two years as exodus continues

 

[NorthDallas40]

It's turning southern California into a drier desert. Forest fires have increased in frequency and scale due to severe drought that's affecting the entire southwestern US.

You mean like the Mojave?

LMAO smart fast edit

It's turning southern California into a desert

 

[luthervol]

Here's the first one that popped up in a google search for me.

Worst States to Live in 2023

Can't disagree with their bottom ten.

 

[utvolpj]

Here's the first one that popped up in a google search for me.

Worst States to Live in 2023

Seems Florida ranks pretty high huh?

Better than Michigan

 

[VolinMichigan]

Those couple of prior years added on tho. Lol.

California's population dropped by 500,000 in two years as exodus continues

Again, they have nearly 38 million in California. Still the largest state population by nearly 10 million people. And what's the point you're trying to make? That EVERYBODY that leaves California must be doing because of state politics? Attributing a single motive for moving to 500k people seems like a pretty big generalization. Makes for a great Fox News soundbite though.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Hell, a sitting Senator from Alabama didn't even know the three branches of government.

Obviously, said senator had the disease of Sarah Palinism, who didn't even know an Alaskan Aleutian island wasn't Russia.

 

[VolinMichigan]

Seems Florida ranks pretty high huh?

Better than Michigan

Yes, because we all must live where our volnation username says we live. A username I made 14 years ago. LOL

 

[85SugarVol]

It's turning southern California into a drier desert. Forest fires have increased in frequency and scale due to severe drought that's affecting the entire southwestern US.

I see