Name Worley the starter now

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KBVol said:
In all fairness to Dobbs, he was injured the Vandy game and evidently had absolutely no one to throw to once North went out. I put that game more on Butch and Azzani than I do Dobbs, especially since he had the game won had Pig not committed that stupid, mindless block in the back penalty.

Bottom line, had Worley not been injured the Bama game, Dobbs likely would never have played as a true freshman last year.
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And we still go up 10 in the 4th quarter if Pig doesn't try to block. If he gives no effort there, we go up 10. Instead, our momentum was zapped, we didn't score a td and Vandy picked on 3-4 walkons in our nickel and dime packages by hitting the all-time leading sec wr.
 
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When Cut came back, he named Ainge and there was no debate. That created a 9-win team that went on to almost win the SEC.

Fingers has said the QB situation is causing some friction within the team.

If Butch wins 6 games this year - then Butch is right no matter what. I get that.

We lost to Florida last year because Butch 1. second-guessed his decision and 2. stuck with his poor decision a lot longer than he should have.

No one has unseated Worley. At this stage, that's enough. Create competition for #2 because that's what's needed. We know #1. Name Worley and let's play football!
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
When Cut came back, he named Ainge and there was no debate. That created a 9-win team that went on to almost win the SEC.

Fingers has said the QB situation is causing some friction within the team.

If Butch wins 6 games this year - then Butch is right no matter what. I get that.

We lost to Florida last year because Butch 1. second-guessed his decision and 2. stuck with his poor decision a lot longer than he should have.

No one has unseated Worley. At this stage, that's enough. Create competition for #2 because that's what's needed. We know #1. Name Worley and let's play football!
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To play devil's advocate to this and my own previous post, Spurrier used to yank qb's in and out all the time and had success with it.

Florida didn't even name a starter in 2012 and used game 1 as a tryout and made it to the Sugar Bowl.

Like a lot of things, each strategy makes sense and has a history of success or failure.

Having said that, I, too, am more comfortable with naming a guy.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
And we still go up 10 in the 4th quarter if Pig doesn't try to block. If he gives no effort there, we go up 10. Instead, our momentum was zapped, we didn't score a td and Vandy picked on 3-4 walkons in our nickel and dime packages by hitting the all-time leading sec wr.
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Dead on. Despite a poor game plan and absolutely no passing game, Dobbs had the game won before Pig handed it back to the dores.
 
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Worley is already the starting QB, now is just fall practice and pitch counts with reps. You will see a lot of things changing in the next 2 weeks or the week of the 18th when they start working on game planes for the year.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
When Cut came back, he named Ainge and there was no debate. That created a 9-win team that went on to almost win the SEC.

Fingers has said the QB situation is causing some friction within the team.

If Butch wins 6 games this year - then Butch is right no matter what. I get that.

We lost to Florida last year because Butch 1. second-guessed his decision and 2. stuck with his poor decision a lot longer than he should have.

No one has unseated Worley. At this stage, that's enough. Create competition for #2 because that's what's needed. We know #1. Name Worley and let's play football!
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I say wait at least another week. :lol:...because...:eek:lol:...we HAVE to be sure! :rofl:
 
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The fact of the matter I think is this.

Butch and Co have more weapons with legit WR and TE's with which to utilize. Therefore, installation of varying packages we are seeing (like the 2 TE set,5 wide) on O are new to all of the QB's. Why not see how these guys manage these installations and respond at the BEGINNING of fall camp. What the coaches may determine is that certain situational work with all of these QBs will prepare us for either the 4th and 1 2 TE look on the goal line with 10 seconds left down by 4 or a 4th and 22 on the opposing teams 38 five wide set in the first quarter.

Both Dobbs and Worley have differing attributes with which to benefit. Worley slightly reminds me of Andy Kelly. A game manager that does just enough when you need it as Worley did in the South Carolina game last year. Dobbs probably looked the part of what Tee Martin would have looked like if he played as a freshman instead of a Junior.

One thing I do know is the season last year went into the crapper when Worley went down and that is undeniable.

I also like the idea of having USU have to prepare for more than one QB as stated by another poster.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
When Cut came back, he named Ainge and there was no debate. That created a 9-win team that went on to almost win the SEC.

Fingers has said the QB situation is causing some friction within the team.

If Butch wins 6 games this year - then Butch is right no matter what. I get that.

We lost to Florida last year because Butch 1. second-guessed his decision and 2. stuck with his poor decision a lot longer than he should have.

No one has unseated Worley. At this stage, that's enough. Create competition for #2 because that's what's needed. We know #1. Name Worley and let's play football!
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I have not seen the quote that there is any friction of any kind within the team about anything, if you show me I'll retract that. Also on the Florida game, Worley was not playing well before it and Butch opened the competition back up. He said whoever plays the best this week in practice will be our starter, and Nate apparently won out. There was no indecision or second guessing on CBJ's part. He went with who he thought gave them the best chance to win, and it didn't work out.

Worley got better from the Georgia game on and he seems to have continued to improve over the spring and summer. I expect him to be named the starter soon.
 
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99gator said:
In all seriousness, I agree with the original post.

I might give it another week, but I think it's a good idea to name a starter unless you really are truly undecided.

I think it's hard to be the team's leader if you don't even have your job yet. Plus, sometimes without the pressure of having to win the job anymore, often times a player goes out more relaxed and performs better.

Having said all that, I'm sure Butch has got a handle on it and knows his team.
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Coaches go different directions for different reasons and each situation is different.
I personally agree with your angle. This is not a veteran team with an experienced foundation. If you have a Sr. QB that you are pretty sure (even if its not a lock) he's your best option I make it known that this is the guy we are behind. No one on this team has been successful while at UT and sometimes you have to manufacture confidence until you do have success.

Im of the notion he's still not totally sure at this point.
 
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gnm53108 said:
Thats true.

He's gonna have to start someone this year too. Hopefully the one he picks starts em all.
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not likely.

This year will be like last year. He will start one QB and that QB will play until he F's up bad enough or until the offensive line gets him seriously injured. then we'll see QB #2 (whichever one that is).
 
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ItsAllVols said:
Worley is already the starting QB, now is just fall practice and pitch counts with reps. You will see a lot of things changing in the next 2 weeks or the week of the 18th when they start working on game planes for the year.
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If they're working on game planes perhaps Dobbs WILL be the starter 😬
 
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DC Vol said:
This thread has about every reason why I love pre-season football in it.

Some of y'all are the Dr. Phils of football. We're blessed to have some many cognizants.



Who doesn't? Which one? Have they ever been so far as to be like?

I love it.
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Me too. What's a coznigant?:)

VFE
 
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92volalum said:
So his other fumbles before that what happened?? Fact is butch should have realized after the first 2 turnovers Peterman suxed n was choking.. N fla was gift wrapping a huge chance to win in the swamp..

It should concern everyone he didn't recognize either n make in game changes..

Now its year two one excuse can't be used is a new system. We should look sharp n aligned correctly at a min n yr 2..

The candy n fla loss is on the coaches regardless of what the sunshine sheep say.
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Oh, look. I found your sunshine sheep! :the_finger::the_finger::the_finger::the_finger::the_finger::the_finger::the_finger::the_finger:

VFE
 
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Tennman said:
I kinda like the idea our opening opponent does not know who the starter is yet and must spend time on 2 or 3 QB's studying film, etc. just saying.....:hi:
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I think if we are playing mind games with Utah State, we are in deep trouble.

Utah State cares a lot more on how they are going to stop Lane and Hurd, how they are going to cover North, Pearson, Smith, TE, Pig, Croom, Malone, and how they are going to neutralize AJ and Maggit. They won't be prepping for two QBs; QB is way down their preparation list because they know our WRs can take a pass any of us can throw to the house against them.
 
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92volalum said:
So his other fumbles before that what happened?? Fact is butch should have realized after the first 2 turnovers Peterman suxed n was choking.. N fla was gift wrapping a huge chance to win in the swamp..

It should concern everyone he didn't recognize either n make in game changes..

Now its year two one excuse can't be used is a new system. We should look sharp n aligned correctly at a min n yr 2..

The candy n fla loss is on the coaches regardless of what the sunshine sheep say.
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Vandy loss was on Butch (and Pig), so I agree with you there.

Disagree about the Florida game. You can't start a kid and pull him after 2-3 possessions, you have to give him a chance to settle down. Peterman only had 5-6 possessions in the first half and despite his awful play we were only down 10 pts at the half. Worley was much better than Peterman in the 2nd half but was still pretty poor...10-23 with 2 of his own picks. We weren't winning that game no matter who our QB was.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
When Cut came back, he named Ainge and there was no debate. That created a 9-win team that went on to almost win the SEC.

Fingers has said the QB situation is causing some friction within the team.

If Butch wins 6 games this year - then Butch is right no matter what. I get that.

We lost to Florida last year because Butch 1. second-guessed his decision and 2. stuck with his poor decision a lot longer than he should have.

No one has unseated Worley. At this stage, that's enough. Create competition for #2 because that's what's needed. We know #1. Name Worley and let's play football!
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Me? I never said the QB situation was causing friction within the team. I posted that Worley was disappointed he wasn't chosen to attend SEC Media Days. Those are two very different things.
 
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oldfartvol said:
Don't want to listen to you p!ss and moan from now until January!!:bash:

VFE
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Oh Noooo! Reading other fans pizzing and moaning about our beloved Vols is how lots of us get a few grins. You really can't mean it! No more pizzing and moaning!?
 
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crparker21 said:
Only thing Peter,an did wrong was not tell the staff how bad his injury was. I understand it might have been his only shot but after the first mistake he should have let it out. With that being said I would have no problem with Peterman being the starter if he is the best we have.
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Nobody seems to remember this. Peterman injured his thumb and tried to play through it. He didn't tell the staff how bad the injury was but we found on the next possession when he was pressured and then couldn't grip the ball to throw it away. He ended throwing a dead duck to a lineback for an INT. I don't recall if FL scored on that possession or not.
 
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Maybe he doesn't want to name a #1 QB because he doesn't want that player taking off knowing he has that spot. Some people get lazy once they have what they want
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
I think if we are playing mind games with Utah State, we are in deep trouble.

Utah State cares a lot more on how they are going to stop Lane and Hurd, how they are going to cover North, Pearson, Smith, TE, Pig, Croom, Malone, and how they are going to neutralize AJ and Maggit. They won't be prepping for two QBs; QB is way down their preparation list because they know our WRs can take a pass any of us can throw to the house against them.
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Won't be just Utah St., there's a whole season for which DC's are getting less & less time to focus on one QB. I have no problem with that or of having 3 in the competition for starter in pre-season. The coaches know, and the team knows who's leading. We don't have to; and our opponents sure don't.
 
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