Name Worley the starter now

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Ah, the Coaches of VolNation? Jones sure does receive a handsome salary to make decisions such as these.
 
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DD4ME said:
I get the thinking but someone will have to, be named and be trusted. Delaying that decision may or may not help, it isn't a certainty either way. Just because it's done one way by Butch doesn't mean it's the best way either. I'm sorry Butch is awesome but he's not infallible. I believe even he would admit to that.
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I agree.
 
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Ez_Vol said:
And you know this based on, 5 practices?
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No. I'm basing my opinion on their in-game 2013 performances, the reports coming out of Spring practice from VQ, 247, Ainge, Swain, etc, and their Spring game performances. I listen to and read as much information as I can and by virtually all accounts, Worley has and continues to take the majority of 1st reps this Summer. He was better than either Dobbs or Peterman last year and unless Dobbs greatly improves his poor accuracy and timing (this according to Brent Hubbs of VolQuest this morning) he had very little chance to overtake a more experienced, less prone to turnovers Justin Worley.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Did y'all skip the 2013 season?
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Which part? The first half where Worley couldn't get the ball to a receiver longer than 10 yards and was benched and was saved by a great catch?

Or the second half, where a freshman, who had no Spring session practice, came in and did all he could do without any experience playing in a college game, let alone an SEC game?

Just let itself play out, Butch knows exactly what he's doing.
 
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KBVol said:
No. I'm basing my opinion on their in-game 2013 performances, the reports coming out of Spring practice from VQ, 247, Ainge, Swain, etc, and their Spring game performances. I listen to and read as much information as I can and by virtually all accounts, Worley has and continues to take the majority of 1st reps this Summer. He was better than either Dobbs or Peterman last year and unless Dobbs greatly improves his poor accuracy and timing (this according to Brent Hubbs of VolQuest this morning) he had very little chance to overtake a more experienced, less prone to turnovers Justin Worley.
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We have a totally different opinion of Worley's performance last year. He was probably the better of the two, but not by much.
 
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Ez_Vol said:
We have a totally different opinion of Worley's performance last year. He was probably the better of the two, but not by much.
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We do? I said he was better and you said he was better. Worley's not a world beater but we were a better team with him at QB last year. I'd be very pleased if Dobbs would beat him out but there's little to no sign that's gonna happen at this point.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Worley is the senior and he was clearly the best QB last year. No one is challenging him enough for the position this year through Spring and now Fall Camp. He should be named starter, end of.

If you have two freshman (Ainge / Schaffer, Manning / Stewart) then you almost have to settle it on the field. We don't have that situation. The Ainge v Clausen confusion ruined the 2005 season (with perhaps our best defense ever).

Love Butch, but the QB indecision cost us a game against Florida last year, and it's happening again. Not sure why. We'll need the #1 and the #2 this season and everyone but Worley is coming back next year.

Name Worley and bring on some football!
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I thought you were wrong, but I guess you were right. I totally forgot about lil Ricky. I was like, Casey was never at UT during the Ainge era.
 
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KBVol said:
We do? I said he was better and you said he was better. Worley's not a world beater but we were a better team with him at QB last year. I'd be very pleased if Dobbs would beat him out but there's little to no sign that's gonna happen at this point b
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I can't say that. Dobbs played great, it was just his decision making and physical strength that stopped him from being a good QB last year.

Dobbs was clearly better during the Alabama game. When it comes to Dobbs and Worley, that's the game I look at, not the overall season.
 
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Ez_Vol said:
I can't say that. Dobbs played great, it was just his decision making and physical strength that stopped him from being a good QB last year.

Dobbs was clearly better during the Alabama game. When it comes to Dobbs and Worley, that's the game I look at, not the overall season.
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Then we really do disagree. So you evaluated Dobbs solely on his play from the second half of the Alabama game? No Missouri ( which I'm on record as saying he was UTs best player that night), Auburn, Vandy, Kentucky?

Sorry, Dobbs showed some flashes of potential and talent last year, but he was nowhere near great.
 
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I think naming him the starter would provide a confidence boost. He wouldn't have to keep looking over his shoulder wondering if he would be yanked for one mistake

I know CBJ is looking for one of them to step and show their leadership, but delaying the announcement seems to hurt morale and confidence more than fostering competition

I also have no problem with using Dobbs in certain game siuations since he brings a different element to the game. He could provide a spark (he could be our "wildcat" package in a sense)
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Worley is the senior and he was clearly the best QB last year. No one is challenging him enough for the position this year through Spring and now Fall Camp. He should be named starter, end of.

If you have two freshman (Ainge / Schaffer, Manning / Stewart) then you almost have to settle it on the field. We don't have that situation. The Ainge v Clausen confusion ruined the 2005 season (with perhaps our best defense ever).

Love Butch, but the QB indecision cost us a game against Florida last year, and it's happening again. Not sure why. We'll need the #1 and the #2 this season and everyone but Worley is coming back next year.

Name Worley and bring on some football!
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Lets not forget it was the opinion of vol nation to play Peterman. We got what we asked for and lost to a very beatable UF. We learned that day why CBJ gets paid to make the decisions.

However, I think Worley should start.
 
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as a fan I would like to know we have a starting QB already named,but I'm sure CBJ is keeping the competition level up,to put pressure on all the QBs to improve during practice,which is a good thing

and it is hard to judge Petermen from 2 quarters of football against Fla,that is a big welcome to UT football,I'll be honest i have no idea of how good or how bad he is,but give the young man a break,it is a new year and like the rest of the QBs he has more time in CBJs system, so i do expect improvements from all of them
 
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Ez_Vol said:
I can't say that. Dobbs played great, it was just his decision making and physical strength that stopped him from being a good QB last year.

Dobbs was clearly better during the Alabama game. When it comes to Dobbs and Worley, that's the game I look at, not the overall season.
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How many quarters did it take for Dobbs to throw a touchdown? 15. It took Dobbs 2 quarters against Bama, 4 against Missouri, 4 against Auburn, 4 against VANDY, and 14:41 of the 1st quarter against Kentucky to throw a touchdown. How in the hell is he better than Worley?

He finished with a total 3 touchdowns, all against Kentucky. That's it. Oh, and 6 interceptions.
 
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whobethis16 said:
How many quarters did it take for Dobbs to throw a touchdown? 15. It took Dobbs 2 quarters against Bama, 4 against Missouri, 4 against Auburn, 4 against VANDY, and 14:41 of the 1st quarter against Kentucky to throw a touchdown. How in the hell is he better than Worley?
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With his ability and willingness to run the ball. That's about it.
 
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whobethis16 said:
How many quarters did it take for Dobbs to throw a touchdown? 15. It took Dobbs 2 quarters against Bama, 4 against Missouri, 4 against Auburn, 4 against VANDY, and 14:41 of the 1st quarter against Kentucky to throw a touchdown. How in the hell is he better than Worley?
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52% vs 59.5% vs SEC teams. Dobbs had more attempts vs better teams with less wrs to throw to. Dobbs in 4 full SEC games never below 57.9%. Worley in SEC games never above 55.9%

Worley SEC and season high of 215 yards. Dobbs 240 vs a top ten team.


Also one was a true freshman and the other a junior. It was closer than people want to make it seem.
 
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KBVol said:
...less prone to turnovers Justin Worley.
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You know it's bad when you have to end a sentence like that.

Worley - 7 TDs, 8 INTs against FBS competition in 2013

I don't doubt that Worley has looked better than Dobbs, but I will say, I was hoping the freshmen could make a big step forward. I figured the chances of them making a big improvement after a year in school, and with a full year of coaching at this level, would be greater than someone who had been here for 3 years already and has never played very well.

But clearly that isn't the case. So, either Worley has made some miraculous last minute turnaround or this year is going to look alot like last year at the QB position.
 
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k-town_king said:
52% vs 59.5% vs SEC teams. Dobbs had more attempts vs better teams with less wrs to throw to. Dobbs in 4 full SEC games never below 57.9%. Worley in SEC games never above 55.9%

Worley SEC and season high of 215 yards. Dobbs 240 vs a top ten team.


Also one was a true freshman and the other a junior. It was closer than people want to make it seem.
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Worley played against the #19 (probably would've won if started instead of cleaning up Peterson's brilliant 4 of 11 with 2 interceptions and 5 yards mess), #6 (almost won), #11 (won), and #1. Dobbs against the #1, #10, #7, and two unranked teams. Worley did more to help win ballgames than Dobbs came close to doing.
 
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