'25 NC OT David Sanders (Tennessee)

[T2P_Priceless]

Not in 3 monts. No chance.

Doesn’t have to. He has 8-9

Also, when have you seen an OLman that is even close to 80% muscle. He doesn’t need to add 25 pounds of lean muscle

 

[NighthawkVol]

Not in 3 monts. No chance.

I know he was listed at 270-275 at the beginning of his high school season and later listed at 290. Some have been skeptical of that last listing. I’d be interested to know what his actual weight is when he reports to campus.

That’ll tell us how far he has to go by August and how likely it is he starts. Regardless, I seriously doubt he redshirts. He almost certainly will be in the 2 deep.

 

[Vol423]

Doesn’t have to. He has 8-9

Also, when have you seen an OLman that is even close to 80% muscle. He doesn’t need to add 25 pounds of lean muscle

The post to which I originally responded idiotically said he could add could add that much by Spring practice.

 

[OrangeMoundTNVol]

The post to which I originally responded idiotically said he could add could add that much by Spring practice.

Look up old articles on Caleb Herring, Jesse Perry, Brian Grant etc

 

[DaddyChad]

We’ve been hesitant to start freshman under Heupel. I don’t care what year someone is if they’re good they play. It’s a shame we didn’t give Mike Matthews more run knowing that more than likely the majority of Webb, Leacock, Nimrod were gone.

He was injured early in the year. Probably set him back somewhat.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Look up old articles on Caleb Herring, Jesse Perry, Brian Grant etc

Here’s Perry. High school weight varied at being listed from 260-278. UT listed him at 310 this fall.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

I’m not saying freshman OLineman have never started or can’t start and be decent.

My point was that I hoped with our recent OL recruiting - guys like Bennett Warren and Satterwhite and Perry and Umarov, etc, that our OL was in a good enough spot where we didn’t have to rely on a true freshman.

Some of the OL who have started here as freshman did so out of necessity. I’m hoping that isn’t the case now

 

[LittleVol]

We’ve been hesitant to start freshman under Heupel. I don’t care what year someone is if they’re good they play. It’s a shame we didn’t give Mike Matthews more run knowing that more than likely the majority of Webb, Leacock, Nimrod were gone.

He was injured, and still leap frogged them when healthy.
Boo Carter started most of the year at Star.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I’m not saying freshman OLineman have never started or can’t start and be decent.

My point was that I hoped with our recent OL recruiting - guys like Bennett Warren and Satterwhite and Perry and Umarov, etc, that our OL was in a good enough spot where we didn’t have to rely on a true freshman.

Some of the OL who have started here as freshman did so out of necessity. I’m hoping that isn’t the case now

at some point you have to trust the guys you recruited. not going down the rabbit hole today. and I think we need a couple of porthole guards. but also think ol recruiting has to get better.

 

[NighthawkVol]

at some point you have to trust the guys you recruited. not going down the rabbit hole today. and I think we need a couple of porthole guards. but also think ol recruiting has to get better.

To be fair, recruiting has gotten better. The last two (24 and 25) OLine classes have been much improved. I’d have preferred one more OL in the 25 class, but getting 6 in 24 mitigates that need.

In the last 2, we’ve signed:

Ginther
Perry
Warren
Anderson
J Heard
Satterwhite
Ogumoro
N Moore
Sanders

Those are all outstanding prospects who were all either highly recruited, have really impressed since arriving on campus, or both.

Keep recruiting OL at that level and we should be fine.

 

[LittleVol]

The post to which I originally responded idiotically said he could add could add that much by Spring practice.

There's nothing idiotic about that.
Even if he adds 30 lbs (Dec-Jan (1) Jan- Feb (2) Feb- Mar (3) Mar- Apr (4) that still doesn't mean he would ready.

It's his technique, feet, hands, outstanding athletic ability,and coachability that set him apart.

30 lbs on a lean 6'5 OLIneman that works hard is nothing to gain. Yes. Even in 4 months

 

[Jackcrevol]

To be fair, recruiting has gotten better. The last two (24 and 25) OLine classes have been much improved. I’d have preferred one more OL in the 25 class, but getting 6 in 24 mitigates that need.

In the last 2, we’ve signed:

Ginther
Perry
Warren
Anderson
J Heard
Satterwhite
Ogumoro
N Moore
Sanders

Those are all outstanding prospects who were all either highly recruited, have really impressed since arriving on campus, or both.

Keep recruiting OL at that level and we should be fine.

I think it was the 23 cycle that hurt us.

Johnson
Lang
Umarov
Bussell

we have to hit better.

 

[NighthawkVol]

I think it was the 23 cycle that hurt us.

Johnson
Lang
Umarov
Bussell

we have to hit better.

Yes, although Umarov and Johnson may still end up being solid producers. I guess Bussell could too, but it sends like he’s been recruited over to an extent.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Yes, although Umarov and Johnson may still end up being solid producers. I guess Bussell could too, but it sends like he’s been recruited over to an extent.

Think about, those dudes are RS Soph/JR and should be hitting strides as starters. Have either played any meaningful snaps? I'm asking, as I don't know. Let's assume Umarov starts, and stays healthy. Then let's assume Bussell plays in 2025, that's 2 players out of 1 class that have done anything.

Lang is gone.
Johnson aint playing.

That aint gonna cut it. Hope we can find some porthole help, at G.

Maybe someone in this 25 class can help out?

 

[LaagerVol]

I’m not saying freshman OLineman have never started or can’t start and be decent.

My point was that I hoped with our recent OL recruiting - guys like Bennett Warren and Satterwhite and Perry and Umarov, etc, that our OL was in a good enough spot where we didn’t have to rely on a true freshman.

Some of the OL who have started here as freshman did so out of necessity. I’m hoping that isn’t the case now

I’m sure there was someone, somewhere, but I can’t recall ever seeing a freshman OL start that was as good as a bluechip, developed upperclassman of a similar talent level. It’s always “man he is going to be so good”, because they will make amazing plays on talent alone, then turn around the next play and make a freshman mistake.

You want him to get significant playing time, but if your evaluations, development, and player retention are where they should be in year 5, there should be (and I believe will be next year) better options on the roster than a true freshman starter.

 

[LaagerVol]

To be fair, recruiting has gotten better. The last two (24 and 25) OLine classes have been much improved. I’d have preferred one more OL in the 25 class, but getting 6 in 24 mitigates that need.

In the last 2, we’ve signed:

Ginther
Perry
Warren
Anderson
J Heard
Satterwhite
Ogumoro
N Moore
Sanders

Those are all outstanding prospects who were all either highly recruited, have really impressed since arriving on campus, or both.

Keep recruiting OL at that level and we should be fine.

All of that has been pointed out to him, multiple times, recently. Deliberately obtuse about it? I think some people are either that, extremely shortsighted, or just negative personalities.

If the ‘24 and ‘25 classes don’t start getting on the field and showing out, then those people will have a legit argument.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I’m sure there was someone, somewhere, but I can’t recall ever seeing a freshman OL start that was as good as a bluechip, developed upperclassman of a similar talent level. It’s always “man he is going to be so good”, because they will make amazing plays on talent alone, then turn around the next play and make a freshman mistake.

You want him to get significant playing time, but if your evaluations, development, and player retention are where they should be in year 5, there should be (and I believe will be next year) better options on the roster than a true freshman starter.

are they ?

funny alabama, georgia, osu can find elite players, who gulp, play early on. Additionally they build depth. And yes, we are there, we are in that conversation, even with this maligned group who over performed.

But we have no Mays now. imagine if we had blue chipper's across the board who over performed.

 

[LaagerVol]

are they ?

funny alabama, georgia, osu can find elite players, who gulp, play early on. Additionally they build depth. And yes, we are there, we are in that conversation, even with this maligned group who over performed.

But we have no Mays now. imagine if we had blue chipper's across the board who over performed.

I want Sanders to play early on and I think he has the talent to do so. I just don’t want us to NEED him to start day one. Ideally he gets significant playing time this year, but isn’t needed to start.

Those guys you mention at alabubba and georgia… yes some of them play early and occasionally start, and….. have freshman growing pains. I would rather avoid freshman growing pains.

Last year for example, Kaden Proctor started for Alabama as a true freshman and he wasn’t very good. His talent was evident, but at times he played like a freshman. That wasn’t in ideal situation for them and means something went wrong either with their evaluation, development, or player retention.

Again, if these blue chippers from the 24 and 25 classes don’t start showing up in the lineup next year and beyond then you have an argument. But to say that OL recruiting has to get better when, on paper at least, it very clearly has the last 2 cycles is a lazy and shortsighted take.

 

[LaagerVol]

are they ?

funny alabama, georgia, osu can find elite players, who gulp, play early on. Additionally they build depth. And yes, we are there, we are in that conversation, even with this maligned group who over performed.

But we have no Mays now. imagine if we had blue chipper's across the board who over performed.

Hard to believe the coaches didn’t wave their magic recruiting wands in year one and sign classes full of blue chippers who overperformed.

Under investigation

Jury was out on Heup and he was being severely negative recruited against. (System isn’t good for OL, system won’t be successful in SEC etc)

We weren’t even on the radar of most blue chip recruits at that time

At the end of the worst period for UT football in my lifetime

How do you recruit to that? Now that we have had success on the field, we are a cool team again, and our NIL is working for us, you’re starting to see things come together in OL recruiting.

 

[swchandler1988]

Think about, those dudes are RS Soph/JR and should be hitting strides as starters. Have either played any meaningful snaps? I'm asking, as I don't know. Let's assume Umarov starts, and stays healthy. Then let's assume Bussell plays in 2025, that's 2 players out of 1 class that have done anything.

Lang is gone.
Johnson aint playing.

That aint gonna cut it. Hope we can find some porthole help, at G.

Maybe someone in this 25 class can help out?

Johnson literally played LT when heard was injured early this season

 

[bpalmer28]

Think about, those dudes are RS Soph/JR and should be hitting strides as starters. Have either played any meaningful snaps? I'm asking, as I don't know. Let's assume Umarov starts, and stays healthy. Then let's assume Bussell plays in 2025, that's 2 players out of 1 class that have done anything.

Lang is gone.
Johnson aint playing.

That aint gonna cut it. Hope we can find some porthole help, at G.

Maybe someone in this 25 class can help out?

If we don't find portal help at G, I wonder if Perry could move inside with Sanders, LJ3, or J. Heard at RT. Maybe not ideal but also maybe our best path to getting the 5 best linemen on the field.

 

[Blake25p]

Sanders will be the starting RT in Atlanta against Syracuse.

Bump

 

[InVOLuntary]

Bump

Self bumping is something Ryan Day would do.

 

[SGMVols]

We’ve been hesitant to start freshman under Heupel. I don’t care what year someone is if they’re good they play. It’s a shame we didn’t give Mike Matthews more run knowing that more than likely the majority of Webb, Leacock, Nimrod were gone.

The reason Matthews didn’t play more until now was because he spent more time hurt than healthy until October. Wasn’t able to practice much up to that point

 

[bpalmer28]

We’ve been hesitant to start freshman under Heupel. I don’t care what year someone is if they’re good they play. It’s a shame we didn’t give Mike Matthews more run knowing that more than likely the majority of Webb, Leacock, Nimrod were gone.

It didn't stop Boo Carter and Peyton Lewis. I was surprised that Matthews didn't play more, but he was banged up early in the season so maybe that played a role. We'll see. My money is on Jesse Perry at RT until Sanders takes it from him.