NCAA to release sanctions/penalties against Penn State Monday Morning

#76
#76
It's too late to be giving them the death penalty this year. Opposing teams won't have time to reschedule games/teams. I suspect a huge loss of scholarships and several years of bowl ban but they will be playing football this season.
 
#77
#77
I am guessing they lose their 12th game starting in 2013 from 2013 to 2015. This is a huge revenue loss for the school who would usually bring someone in to play.

Additionally 3-4 year bowl ban.

All players allowed a one time waiver to transfer.

10 scholorships a year for 4 years lost (that means 15 max enrolled for 5 years, that kills numbers)

This would pretty much take care of it.

This is just my thought.
 
#78
#78
A 5 year bowl ban is just as crippling if not more than a death penalty. New recruits would have to make a choice to never compete for championships if they wanted to play at psu
 
#79
#79
What a mealy mouth measure by the ncaa.

I don't know if I'm more offended by the fact that they deemed themselves in a place to dole out punishment or by the fact that they stopped short of the death penalty

I can't overstate what a pos organization the ncaa is
 
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No way to know for sure, but the speed of all of this leads me to believe that the resulting decision to be announced tomorrow morning is the result of a "plea bargain" of sorts between the NCAA and PSU. If that is the case, I would guess that the result will be like the plea bargains found in capital crime cases -- the sole object of the defendant (PSU) is to take the death penalty off of the table.

If that is indeed what has happened here, look for the NCAA to announce very serious penalties against PSU but they will not include the "death penalty" for the football program. I would speculate that the agreed upon penalties would involve severe loss of scholarships for an extended period (3-5 years) a bowl ban for the same length of time, and it could very well also include a TV ban. I believe that whatever agreement reached would, like a criminal case, preclude any appeals by PSU.

mlsoft
 
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I would have Penn State vacate every victory since 1998, when the molestations were first brought to the attention of Paterno and the Penn State administrators. That's 111 games, counting 1998. This would bring Paterno's lifetime victories down from 409 to 298, making him the 5th winningest coach. This would be an unprecedented punishment.
 
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Tux said:
I am hearing that they could face a 5-10 year bowl ban, loss of upwards of 50 scholarships (over a 10 year period), and will vacate victories over the past decade. The cover up was unprecedented. This is a shot across the bow of schools. Miami is next up.
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Lol@ 5 scholarships lost per year for ten years. If that's the case that's a F'n joke. Should be atleast 10 per year for 10 years. ATLEAST!
 
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#85
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Curious to see if they take away wins as well. Does the NCAA want Jo Pa at the top of the all-time wins list? Who knows but it sounds like they have some unusual, uncommon punishments in store.
 
#86
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It's possible. But from my understanding, a certain PS trustee was livid that the NCAA granted Emmert the authority to punish - without going through infractions committee,etc. This is truly unusual since sanctions being announced look to be in effect immediately.
 
#87
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It might not be the "death penalty" but it might as well be because it will "probably" take a decade plus most likely several coaching changes to get this program back after the aftermath. Just my opinion.
 
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KoachKletus said:
It's possible. But from my understanding, a certain PS trustee was livid that the NCAA granted Emmert the authority to punish - without going through infractions committee,etc. This is truly unusual since sanctions being announced look to be in effect immediately.
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Agree.
 
#90
#90
They definitely need to vacate all of Paterno's wins during the time of the coverup.
 
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mlsoft said:
No way to know for sure, but the speed of all of this leads me to believe that the resulting decision to be announced tomorrow morning is the result of a "plea bargain" of sorts between the NCAA and PSU. If that is the case, I would guess that the result will be like the plea bargains found in capital crime cases -- the sole object of the defendant (PSU) is to take the death penalty off of the table.

If that is indeed what has happened here, look for the NCAA to announce very serious penalties against PSU but they will not include the "death penalty" for the football program. I would speculate that the agreed upon penalties would involve severe loss of scholarships for an extended period (3-5 years) a bowl ban for the same length of time, and it could very well also include a TV ban. I believe that whatever agreement reached would, like a criminal case, preclude any appeals by PSU.

mlsoft
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I just don't see a TV ban happening. Even as it already stands, mostly innocent people are going to be forced to bear the brunt of the penalties against the PSU football team, but to widen the scope of the penalties to include fans of other teams who would be forced to miss one of their team's games each season just doesn't seem fair. TV bans made sense 20 years ago when less games were televised, and the death penalty or serious sanctions basically meant you wouldn't be on TV anyway because you were going to suck during that time. Now that EVERY game is televised, I just can't see it.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I just don't see a TV ban happening. Even as it already stands, mostly innocent people are going to be forced to bear the brunt of the penalties against the PSU football team, but to widen the scope of the penalties to include fans of other teams who would be forced to miss one of their team's games each season just doesn't seem fair. TV bans made sense 20 years ago when less games were televised, and the death penalty or serious sanctions basically meant you wouldn't be on TV anyway because you were going to suck during that time. Now that EVERY game is televised, I just can't see it.
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Agree. Someone kicked around the idea of PS being put in the FCS for a couple of years. Not sure if this is even possible but it would be akin to the death penalty.
 
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mlsoft said:
No way to know for sure, but the speed of all of this leads me to believe that the resulting decision to be announced tomorrow morning is the result of a "plea bargain" of sorts between the NCAA and PSU. If that is the case, I would guess that the result will be like the plea bargains found in capital crime cases -- the sole object of the defendant (PSU) is to take the death penalty off of the table.

If that is indeed what has happened here, look for the NCAA to announce very serious penalties against PSU but they will not include the "death penalty" for the football program. I would speculate that the agreed upon penalties would involve severe loss of scholarships for an extended period (3-5 years) a bowl ban for the same length of time, and it could very well also include a TV ban. I believe that whatever agreement reached would, like a criminal case, preclude any appeals by PSU.

mlsoft
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That falls in line with the report from Joe Schad.
 
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I am conflicted with knowing none of the current players had anything to do with this mess, and most likely none of the players ever had any knowledge - yet knowing that the cover-up was horrible and involved the head coach and top school administration. I still think they need to allow all of the players to transfer without penalty and then punish the program like many are saying with 3-5 years of nasty penalties.
 
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Vols4us said:
I am conflicted with knowing none of the current players had anything to do with this mess, and most likely none of the players ever had any knowledge - yet knowing that the cover-up was horrible and involved the head coach and top school administration. I still think they need to allow all of the players to transfer without penalty and then punish the program like many are saying with 3-5 years of nasty penalties.
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My guess is that Meyer is about to become extremely loaded at suckeye state. Which brings up another question - since most teams use their schollie allotments - what teams have room for the *s?
 
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milohimself said:
What a mealy mouth measure by the ncaa.

I don't know if I'm more offended by the fact that they deemed themselves in a place to dole out punishment or by the fact that they stopped short of the death penalty

I can't overstate what a pos organization the ncaa is
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This is kind of what I think. IMO this is a criminal matter and the offenders deserve every bit of harsh punishment the judicial system allows. However, all the perpetrators are no longer employed by the Penn St. football program, so punishing innocent players, coaches and fans seems pointless. In SMU's case, no laws were being broken, just NCAA rules, so the NCAA was the only organization who had authority to dole out punishment. In PSU's case, I think the courts (and the courts only) should handle punishment for the offenders.
 
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DjCrenshaw said:
PSU is going in the toliet for about the next decade.
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They were saying the same thing about USC two years ago, and now there ready to compete for a NC again. Big time Universities can easy navigate their way around a two year bowl ban and probation. I hope PSU's ban is for five years so it has some teeth.
 
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mlsoft said:
No way to know for sure, but the speed of all of this leads me to believe that the resulting decision to be announced tomorrow morning is the result of a "plea bargain" of sorts between the NCAA and PSU. If that is the case, I would guess that the result will be like the plea bargains found in capital crime cases -- the sole object of the defendant (PSU) is to take the death penalty off of the table.

If that is indeed what has happened here, look for the NCAA to announce very serious penalties against PSU but they will not include the "death penalty" for the football program. I would speculate that the agreed upon penalties would involve severe loss of scholarships for an extended period (3-5 years) a bowl ban for the same length of time, and it could very well also include a TV ban. I believe that whatever agreement reached would, like a criminal case, preclude any appeals by PSU.

mlsoft
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Then what would be the point of the any sanctions. That is neither unprecedented and will not do any damage to the program as it is intended. Either they hit hard or do nothing imo. Anything in between is a joke.
 
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