Need a New OC/Spread Sucks

#77
#77
What? Dude you haven't been watching football at all. Saban D struggles against the spread.

Please actually watch the game and not the highlights.

Also notoriously struggled against a triple-option school. Coincidentally, a guy in Florida did as well. :whistling:
 
#78
#78
A lot of the people saying we should go back to a pro style offense are probably some of the same ones that were saying we should go to a read option spread offense when we ran a pro style.

Man half of these guys have never played a down of organized football in their life and don't understand it takes more that one off season to learn a new offensive system. Too much instant gratification man they expect things to happen instantly.
 
#80
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Man half of these guys have never played a down of organized football in their life and don't understand it takes more that one off season to learn a new offensive system. Too much instant gratification man they expect things to happen instantly.

I'll bet only 5% of the posters here played a down past Junior Midget ball. I swear I feel like they believe playing Madden on their X-Box qualifies them to be so definitive in their posts. :)
 
#81
#81
I'll bet only 5% of the posters here played a down past Junior Midget ball. I swear I feel like they believe playing Madden on their X-Box qualifies them to be so definitive in their posts. :)

Do you remember everyone's idea for how to stop the power read Auburn killed us with? "Qb spy". Lol that's all you have to do to stop the read option.
 
#82
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LOL- That and so many others. I gave up trying to rebutt some of the foolishness on here and just roll with it now.

Edit: there are still a few posters that just really get under my skin still though. :peace2:
 
#83
#83
1. We run bearcat spread (nothing to do with Malzahn spread since he actually knows what he is doing).

2. What is the best spread QB in the history Tim Tebow doing on Sundays? Watching our pro-style backup QB Matt Simms playing for the same Jets that cut Tebow? :muahaha:
 
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#84
#84
You need a fearless QB and a RB that hits the hole hard. We have neither. I would take Auburns style or Stanford's. Whatever wins ball games. GBO!!!

I wouldn't disagree.

We will have that TB in Hurd next year. Ferguson is fearless and ran a system quite similar in HS. Dobbs may pick it up, but Ferguson seems the best fit. He is awesome throwing it on the run as well as in the pocket.... Again, Ferguson is quite fearless.
 
#86
#86
1. We run bearcat spread (nothing to do with Malzahn spread since he actually knows what he is doing).

2. What is the best spread QB in the history Tim Tebow doing on Sundays? Watching our pro-style backup QB Matt Simms playing for the same Jets that cut Tebow? :muahaha:

Is "bearcat spread" the coinage of the day by Gregg Easterbrook of profound football knowledge or did you steal that from NCAA 14?
 
#87
#87
1. We run bearcat spread (nothing to do with Malzahn spread since he actually knows what he is doing).

2. What is the best spread QB in the history Tim Tebow doing on Sundays? Watching our pro-style backup QB Matt Simms playing for the same Jets that cut Tebow? :muahaha:

1. Clearly CBJs record proves he doesn't know what he's doing with his spread offense.

2. Who cares what Tebow is doing on Sundays, he won multiple NCs. That's our goal. To win multiple NCs, not Super Bowls.
 
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#88
#88
Obviously it doesn't work. The only teams to beat bama in the last 3 years run it, and the 2 teams in the SEC championship run it.
Spread/read option based offense must not work at all.
 
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#89
Did you even take the time or read anything in this thread?

You might be right I might have missed something, because of all the crazy talk from the fan base...Someone even suggest that we take the redshirt off the other freshman QB, just to play in our final game of the year..But doesn't new OC mean a coaching change? Changing position coaches every year is not the way to go, and Dooley's staff should have made that really clear to our fans
 
#90
#90
Mizzou's pro style offense works awesome too. They do it with roster full of 2* and 3* players

That may be true, but their overall team speed is 5*, ours is 2* or 3*! Watching those games, it blew me away how much faster both teams are compared to TN.



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#91
#91
You might be right I might have missed something, because of all the crazy talk from the fan base...Someone even suggest that we take the redshirt off the other freshman QB, just to play in our final game of the year..But doesn't new OC mean a coaching change? Changing position coaches every year is not the way to go, and Dooley's staff should have made that really clear to our fans

Sorry, I know we've all been edge since the Vandy game, but my post was extremely sarcastic.
 
#92
#92
But isn't it fair to say you must have specific athletes to run it? Athletes we frankly don't have, including a mobile QB? I'm more interested in running offensive systems that fit our personnel instead of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Dobbs and Ferguson are both athletic, but nothing on par with what Auburn is putting out there. I truly hope Butch gets the players he needs for his system, but shouldn't a coaching staff tailor it's schemes to it players. I really think running a more traditional set, yes maybe a I formation, would have been an easier transition until he does so.

Really? We've shown three QBs this year who have had trouble throwing more than 5 yards for accuracy. We've seen Dobbs pick up chunks of yards with his legs, including a 30-or-so-yard TD run last night, our running game is statistically better than it's been in 5 years, and you think I-formation, drop-back passing fits our athletes more?
 
#93
#93
That's funny because it seems like Baylor, Texas A&M, Missiouri, USCjr, Auburn, and a billion other teams are producing "elite" qb's year in and year out.

Have you ever thought that maybe it's not the qb? Maybe it's the system?

Wow....

The Only excuse for posting this would be if you literally only watch UT and no one else.
 
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#94
#94
Is "bearcat spread" the coinage of the day by Gregg Easterbrook of profound football knowledge or did you steal that from NCAA 14?

I don't know who exactly coined it but you kind of seem to get what I was talking about :)
Anyhow, until this makes it into Wikipedia here is the definition just for you: BEARCAT SPREAD is the offensive system UT football fans have been tortured with during the 2013 football season. It was invented, installed, and presented in all it's scary glory by the best staff in America (happen to be all former bearcats so there you go). One of the key ideas is to use balanced pass-run attack which gains more yards moving sideways than going up the field.
 
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#95
#95
Wow....

The Only excuse for posting this would be if you literally only watch UT and no one else.

What are you saying? Are you sayin Auburn, Baylor, and the other teams I mentioned aren't winning "big" with this scheme?
 
#96
#96
Jones and co. need to go to a HS coach at Aub and learn how to run the spread. What they are trying to run looks more like the Clawfense. Horrible second half.
 
#97
#97
Jones and co. need to go to a HS coach at Aub and learn how to run the spread. What they are trying to run looks more like the Clawfense. Horrible second half.

You realize we were without both Croom and North, right?
 
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#99
#99
All the more reason to run the option and MAKE the QB carry it instead of trying to throw it to people with stone hands.
 
Yes! So the rest of our poor receivers were outmatched by the speedy and ultra talented Wildcat defenders :run:

Wow- you called him out on that one.... Or maybe, just maybe it has something to do with reciever/qb timing, or route running, or trust that the recievers will make a proper read on the defense and break the direction the QB expects them to... No I'm sure you're right, it's all about the UK DBs..... :crazy:

Edit: What were we just talking about vol8188???
 

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