New Arizona Immigration Law

#604
#604
BigPapaVol said:
no I'm not. I'm telling them that if I have reason to stop them, they damn well better be able to prove they're an American, because I now get to ask and am going to.

If providing proper paperwork is an issue, good riddance.
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the point being, if you're not hispanic with this bill, you won't have the same burden...

how is that fair??? It's called equal protection for all CITIZENS, and without it, the bill is against the law.
 
#606
#606
tvolsfan said:
Ever heard of the government enforcing it's laws to protect it's states? Because the federal government hasn't.
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i don't disagree there. good for arizona for passing a bill, just wish it wasn't so unconstitutional with its obvious profiling that's going to happen.
 
#607
#607
Cash Vallin said:
the point being, if you're not hispanic with this bill, you won't have the same burden...

how is that fair??? It's called equal protection for all CITIZENS, and without it, the bill is against the law.
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link? proof? Anything other than your misguided liberal guilt?
 
#608
#608
Cash Vallin said:
i don't disagree there. good for arizona for passing a bill, just wish it wasn't so unconstitutional with its obvious profiling that's going to happen.
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Answer my question. What percent of Arizona illegal immigrants do you think are white?
 
#610
#610
Cash Vallin said:
the point being, if you're not hispanic with this bill, you won't have the same burden...

bullcrap, of course I do. If you're illegal, you have a burden. If you're legal, what's the burden?

how is that fair??? It's called equal protection for all CITIZENS, and without it, the bill is against the law.
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How is it protection for our citizens to continue to allow unaccountable illegals to live here above the rules?
 
#612
#612
Cash Vallin said:
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH, so you go to Arizona....... you think you're gonna be asked to prove you're a citizen???? get rid of that naive mindset
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If I was asked to prove I'm a citizen, I'd have no problem.

In fact, I'd be sure to wear my ID as a necklace if I choose to commit crimes as well, just for the police officer's convenience. How about that?
 
#613
#613
tvolsfan said:
link? proof? Anything other than your misguided liberal guilt?
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link??? proof??? that it isn't against the law.... there hasn't been enough time either way for it to be proven... i'm just giving an opinion, one of which the courts will decide
 
#614
#614
BigPapaVol said:
How is it protection for our citizens to continue to allow unaccountable illegals to live here above the rules?
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Agreed. Supporting illegal immigration is like telling people they have to let a homeless person live in their house if they manage to break in.
 
#616
#616
tvolsfan said:
Answer my question. What percent of Arizona illegal immigrants do you think are white?
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very few........... still doesn't give any state a right to question one race/ethnic group of their legality while totally dismissing another race/ethnic groupo.
 
#617
#617
Cash Vallin said:
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH, so you go to Arizona....... you think you're gonna be asked to prove you're a citizen???? get rid of that naive mindset
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the question you're asking is one I'd expect from my 6 year old, not an adult.

The point is that if I'm busted for anything, I provide positive ID that says I'm who I am. Now, everyone has to, including illegals. If they can't, so long. This is not hard. We now all live by the same set of rules, rather than letting the lawbreakers live beyond them.
 
#618
#618
Cash Vallin said:
link??? proof??? that it isn't against the law.... there hasn't been enough time either way for it to be proven... i'm just giving an opinion, one of which the courts will decide
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I read the part that is in question. Nothing even remotely unconstitutional or discriminatory.
 
#621
#621
BigPapaVol said:
How is it protection for our citizens to continue to allow unaccountable illegals to live here above the rules?
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It's not fair... Hence the reason I say EVERYBODY should have to go through the process... If you agree with that, than I have no problem with the bill at all.
 
#623
#623
Cash Vallin said:
It's not fair... Hence the reason I say EVERYBODY should have to go through the process... If you agree with that, than I have no problem with the bill at all.
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We agree with that. The process, however, requires suspicion. You can't accept that.
 
#624
#624
Cash Vallin said:
very few........... still doesn't give any state a right to question one race/ethnic group of their legality while totally dismissing another race/ethnic groupo.
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who isn't having to live up to the federal law? Which group is being excluded? So far, the hispanics have been excluded and AZ's people have said that it's absolute garbage. They want it addressed. It now will be.
 
#625
#625
tvolsfan said:
No one dismissed any ethnic group.
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Seriously, a crime is committed by somebody and they don't have their license... (stupid, yes, but not against the law not to have your license)

WHO is going to have to proof their CITIZENSHIP legality more often with this bill???
 
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