New Arizona Immigration Law

[BeecherVol]

but by the law, that will be enough to keep them out of trouble.

True.

Thats a whole other topic.

 

[droski]

but by the law, that will be enough to keep them out of trouble.

the only border state (or large state at all for that matter) that doesn't require some form of legal citizenship to get a license is Texas. obviously there is a lot of fraud going around though. edit: in california we have a lot of people driving without a license

 

[Cash Vallin]

This is apples and oranges. If this guy was arrested for simply not being able to provide proper proof of citizenship, the police were wrong in doing so because that law doesn't exist yet. If this guy actually had proof of citizenship/residency with a driver's license and the police detained him anyway, then the police are doubly wrong in that they didn't follow this new law correctly, which wasn't even in effect yet anyway.

Either way, it's a screw-up with law enforcement, not the law. Sorry.

that's the point.... the law as written is fine...... but this proves as written doesn't mean squat

 

[Cash Vallin]

I bet you excelled in histrionics, hyperbole, and illogic at whatever institute of higher learning you attended.

don't get mad at me for predicting what has already started

 

[Cash Vallin]

That doesn't make him a legal citizen. There are plenty of them in your county that are illegal with driver's license.

Course the Feds may look at that, as there amnesty card.

but, but, but, i thought that's all a person had to have to prove their citizenship with THIS law......

 

[droski]

that's the point.... the law as written is fine...... but this proves as written doesn't mean squat

once again the department of justice is looking into this incident. so if the police involved here get punished (assuming they did violate the law) would you reconsider your opinion?

 

[utvolpj]

but, but, but, i thought that's all a person had to have to prove their citizenship with THIS law......

is the new law in effect yet?

 

[BeecherVol]

but, but, but, i thought that's all a person had to have to prove their citizenship with THIS law......

that's the point.... the law as written is fine...... but this proves as written doesn't mean squat

As you answered. The law that pertains to getting a DL doesn't mean squat either.

So now you believe the AZ law is written "fine" as you put it?

 

[Cash Vallin]

As you answered. The law that pertains to getting a DL doesn't mean squat either.

So now you believe the AZ law is written "fine" as you put it?

i've said that for days that

 

[Cash Vallin]

once again the department of justice is looking into this incident. so if the police involved here get punished (assuming they did violate the law) would you reconsider your opinion?

they better expand their department then.... claims -true or not- such as these are about to skyrocket

 

[droski]

they better expand their department then.... claims -true or not- such as these are about to skyrocket

right because most police officers are a bunch of racists willing to potentially void thier pensions and lose their job just so they can pull over some "brownies."

 

[utvolpj]

once again the department of justice is looking into this incident. so if the police involved here get punished (assuming they did violate the law) would you reconsider your opinion?

which will now happen almost every time an arrest is made (job creation?). No way they will go without a fight and unfortunately the US court system will start to allow it

 

[BeecherVol]

i've said that for days that

So you trust the process of deporting illegals just not those who are enforcing it?

 

[Cash Vallin]

right because most police officers are a bunch of racists willing to potentially void thier pensions and lose their job just so they can pull over some "brownies."

you don't think these claims are gonna go up, even if every police officer does follow this law exactly??

 

[droski]

you don't think these claims are gonna go up, even if every police officer does follow this law exactly??

potentially, but i don't see why this is a good reason to void a law that will save us billions long term.

 

[Cash Vallin]

So you trust the process of deporting illegals just not those who are enforcing it?

i think the law in itself will lead to legals being profiled... heck, even fox news, has admitted that...

i feel bad for the cops... they're gonna get it from both ends...

 

[BeecherVol]

So your not sure?

 

[Oldvol75]

Waffling?????

 

[utvolpj]

heck, even fox news, has admitted that...

you mean one commentator on Fox right? Or maybe I missed the announcement on behalf of the entire network

 

[MG1968]

you mean one commentator on Fox right? Or maybe I missed the announcement on behalf of the entire network

you forget, in all matters immigration, Geraldo Rivera is the official FNC spokesman.

 

[BigPapaVol]

you forget, in all matters immigration, Geraldo Rivera is the official FNC spokesman.

I thought Geraldo was going to spank it on air when Healthcare passed.

 

[Cash Vallin]

So your not sure?

where did i say i'm not sure??????? My stance has always been there will be profiling of LEGAL citizens... shockingly, that has already happened

 

[tvolsfan]

where did i say i'm not sure??????? My stance has always been there will be profiling of LEGAL citizens... shockingly, that has already happened

My stance is that illegal immigrants will actually get deported now.

Shockingly, Obama doesn't want that to happen.

 

[Cash Vallin]

you mean one commentator on Fox right? Or maybe I missed the announcement on behalf of the entire network

if a HIRED commentator says it on any news network, their opinion (good or bad) is on the behalf of fox news.

 

[Cash Vallin]

My stance is that illegal immigrants will actually get deported now.

Shockingly, Obama doesn't want that to happen.

yep, at the expense of legal citizens... civil rights smivel rights