New Arizona Immigration Law

#927
#927
Cash Vallin said:
if a HIRED commentator says it on any news network, their opinion (good or bad) is on the behalf of fox news.
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So Alan Colmes was speaking on behalf of Fox News at the same time Sean Hannity was? Fox News was pro and anti healthcare reform?
 
#928
#928
Cash Vallin said:
where did i say i'm not sure??????? My stance has always been there will be profiling of LEGAL citizens... shockingly, that has already happened
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and sometimes people get arrested for murders they don't commit, but hell let's let everyone else who kills someone go free. because "we can't take that chance" right?.
 
#929
#929
We should assume all law enforcement is corrupt or incompetent when writing legislature. Maybe cops shouldn't carry guns or be allowed to detain people. That'd eliminate a lot of these problems.
 
#930
#930
kptvol said:
So Alan Colmes was speaking on behalf of Fox News at the same time Sean Hannity was? Fox News was pro and anti healthcare reform?
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if it's a news organization, it shouldn't be pro and con anything. sadly, that's not the case anymore with any news organization
 
#931
#931
droski said:
and sometimes people get arrested for murders they don't commit, but hell let's let everyone else who kills someone go free. because "we can't take that chance" right?.
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it's all about rights, implied or otherwise.
 
#932
#932
droski said:
and sometimes people get arrested for murders they don't commit, but hell let's let everyone else who kills someone go free. because "we can't take that chance" right?.
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but that's not limited to one race, though... that's the problem... the singling out of a race... i know you don't get that.
 
#933
#933
droski said:
and sometimes people get arrested for murders they don't commit, but hell let's let everyone else who kills someone go free. because "we can't take that chance" right?.
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funny you say that... our criminal system is set up to allow 100 guilty men go free in the court of law so one innocent person doesn't go to jail...

this law is the exact opposite of that and has already been proven that profiling will happen. I must be psychic... I'll keep you update as my predictions come true
 
#936
#936
Cash Vallin said:
if it's a news organization, it shouldn't be pro and con anything. sadly, that's not the case anymore with any news organization
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Well, you see, sometimes issues in the news are very complex and people like to see experts debate as to how this news will negatively or positively impact their lives. To get both sides of the story, a common tactic is to bring in a guy from the right and another guy from the left. Said two guys then proceed to dsicuss current issues in hopes of informing the viewer of both sides of the story so a more educated decision can be made.
 
#937
#937
Cash Vallin said:
that's the point.... the law as written is fine...... but this proves as written doesn't mean squat
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BeecherVol said:
So you trust the process of deporting illegals just not those who are enforcing it?
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Cash Vallin said:
i think the law in itself will lead to legals being profiled... heck, even fox news, has admitted that...

i feel bad for the cops... they're gonna get it from both ends...
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Cash Vallin said:
where did i say i'm not sure??????? My stance has always been there will be profiling of LEGAL citizens... shockingly, that has already happened
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If the cops do their job, I don't feel bad for em.

Back to the question. Do you not trust the "Law" that you said, "as written, is fine."?

Or the cops that you claim are profiling?
 
#938
#938
Cash Vallin said:
in the bill, i can't... in reality, it's already happened... watch the video
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And? Cops are going to figure out that they need to actually be able to accuse these guys of doing something wrong thereby having a vald reason for checking citizenship. If they don't, they'll be wasting their time rounding up guys that aren't getting deported.
 
#941
#941
kptvol said:
Well, you see, sometimes issues in the news are very complex and people like to see experts debate as to how this news will negatively or positively impact their lives. To get both sides of the story, a common tactic is to bring in a guy from the right and another guy from the left. Said two guys then proceed to dsicuss current issues in hopes of informing the viewer of both sides of the story so a more educated decision can be made.
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yeah, i get the concept... but surely you're not crazy enough to think that news organizations in this country don't lean one way or another
 
#942
#942
kptvol said:
And? Cops are going to figure out that they need to actually be able to accuse these guys of doing something wrong thereby having a vald reason for checking citizenship. If they don't, they'll be wasting their time rounding up guys that aren't getting deported.
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whatever you want to think... you know good and well if you went to arizona you would never have to prove your legality as a citizen if you broke the law... legal hispanics in the area don't have that luxury, which has already been proven.

but just ignore it... i understand.. it it doesn't affect you personally, it's not really an issue
 
#943
#943
Cash Vallin said:
yeah, i get the concept... but surely you're not crazy enough to think that news organizations in this country don't lean one way or another
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I've noticed you have a hard time remembering what discussions are really about.
 
#944
#944
Cash Vallin said:
whatever you want to think... you know good and well if you went to arizona you would never have to prove your legality as a citizen if you broke the law... legal hispanics in the area don't have that luxury, which has already been proven.

but just ignore it... i understand.. it it doesn't affect you personally, it's not really an issue
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You don't know if I'm hispanic. You think just because I've expressed conservative views here that I must be white? How dare you profile me, you racist bastard.
 
#946
#946
Cash Vallin said:
whatever you want to think... you know good and well if you went to arizona you would never have to prove your legality as a citizen if you broke the law... legal hispanics in the area don't have that luxury, which has already been proven.

but just ignore it... i understand.. it it doesn't affect you personally, it's not really an issue
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You're making assumptions...
 
#947
#947
Cash Vallin said:
whatever you want to think... you know good and well if you went to arizona you would never have to prove your legality as a citizen if you broke the law... legal hispanics in the area don't have that luxury, which has already been proven.

but just ignore it... i understand.. it it doesn't affect you personally, it's not really an issue
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If I went to another country, I'd have to prove I had a right to be there by showing my passport. When I tried to come back to the US, I'd have to prove I can get in.

Every time I'm pulled over for speeding, I have to prove I have the right to drive the car, and in turn I prove I'm a citizen by showing my driver's license.
 
#948
#948
kptvol said:
You don't know if I'm hispanic. You think just because I've expressed conservative views here that I must be white? How dare you profile me, you racist bastard.
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How's it feel being on the receiving end?
 
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