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#826
#826
Well if JG deal doesnt happen,and I hope it does, I have no problem with Petrino. I wanna win..he's a heck of a recuiter and a proven coach/ winner(on the field) . I mean all he did was wreck a motorcycle...at least he didnt have a guy on the back of it.
 
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#827
#827
Tennessee: A whole bunch to relay here. A short while ago Jimmy Hyams reported that UT plans to interview several candidates over the next week. Hyams also "reported" that Jon Gruden called off a scheduled meeting with Tennessee that was to be held today. Then, just to keep things interesting, Luther Campbell, yes Uncle Luke, tweeted "Golden to UT". So that's out there. Never a dull day this time of year.
 
#828
#828
General rules concerning coaching candidate denials:

1) Few ever know for sure who was offered, who was wanted, who wanted the job, etc... the whole system is designed so that everyone saves face. In the end, both the school and new coach will assure everyone that it was love at first sight with no othera considered.

2) Only a concrete "I am not and will not be a candidate for this job" can be considered a "denial".... and even then rule 3 applies.

3) Things change... sometimes within minutes. A firm denial can turn into a handshake in a flash.

Believe nothing. Disbelieve nothing. Don't get your hopes up but don't let your hopes diminish to nothing. I will not be surprised if Gruden smiles at the camera on MNF over the next 3 weeks and says "Effective December 18th I will be the Head Coach of the Volunteers". I will not be surprised if some unknown is announced between now and the 10th of December.

If it does not happen next week... then you can brighten your outlook on Gruden... or dim your outlook that UT will get a high profile guy. Everyone on "the list" will be finished with their regular season after this weekend except Gruden. The sooner after that a currently active coach tells his team and starts his new job... the better for everyone.
 
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#829
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Sorry. Forgot the 4th Rule.

Hyams.... is almost NEVER right about anything. He either has no sources and makes stuff up or he gets lied to on a regular basis.
 
#830
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HootGibson said:
Tennessee: A whole bunch to relay here. A short while ago Jimmy Hyams reported that UT plans to interview several candidates over the next week. Hyams also "reported" that Jon Gruden called off a scheduled meeting with Tennessee that was to be held today. Then, just to keep things interesting, Luther Campbell, yes Uncle Luke, tweeted "Golden to UT". So that's out there. Never a dull day this time of year.
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Luke was boys with Randy Shannon, he is dillusioned into thinking the U will rehire Shannon if Golden leaves.
 
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HootGibson said:
Hyams also "reported" that Jon Gruden called off a scheduled meeting with Tennessee that was to be held today.
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And how would Hyams know whether Gruden called off a scheduled meeting with UT? Hyams sources? Yes, Hyams sources are like money in the bank.
 
#832
#832
I don't understand the fascination with Golden? I just don't see his accomplishments to justify a UT job.

Petrino is trouble wherever he has been. He will not get a job at a big school.
 
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#833
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smokey90 said:
I don't understand the fascination with Golden? I just don't see his accomplishments to justify a UT job.

Petrino is trouble wherever he has been. He will not get a job at a big school.
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Golden won at Temple after years of futility. They were once (fairly recently) recognized as the worst program in college football.

He took over a Miami program under NCAA penalties... and has performed about as well as Kiffin at USCe.

I'm not saying he's my favorite pick... but he does have some good things on his resume.
 
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#834
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Admiral Scot said:
So lets say we got him? Why in the hell didn't this happen three effin years ago? And does anybody know if he can put together a SEC quality staff that understands the game? (SEC>NFL btw)

I am still worried about this hire. But willing to go out on a limb and say I am happy with a hire like this. FINALLY (still want Phil back)
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I was with you till the Phil part. Face meet palm
 
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sjt18 said:
Golden won at Temple after years of futility. They were once (fairly recently) recognized as the worst program in college football."



I recognized what your saying and would agree if you are comparing his coaching ability to Lane Kiffin, but that is not very impressive. Franklin looks more impressive with his recruiting and success at Vanderbilt than Golden.

Don't take that as an endorsement of Franklin. I am just saying that I getting worried and talk of Golden does not make me feel excited.
He took over a Miami program under NCAA penalties... and has performed about as well as Kiffin at USCe.

I'm not saying he's my favorite pick... but he does have some good things on his resume.
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sjt18 said:
Golden won at Temple after years of futility. They were once (fairly recently) recognized as the worst program in college football.

He took over a Miami program under NCAA penalties... and has performed about as well as Kiffin at USCe.

I'm not saying he's my favorite pick... but he does have some good things on his resume.
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I recognized what your saying and would agree if you are comparing his coaching ability to Lane Kiffin, but that is not very impressive. Franklin looks more impressive with his recruiting and success at Vanderbilt than Golden.

Don't take that as an endorsement of Franklin. I am just saying that I getting worried and talk of Golden does not make me feel excited.
He took over a Miami program under NCAA penalties... and has performed about as well as Kiffin at USCe.

I'm not saying he's my favorite pick... but he does have some good things on his resume.
 
#839
#839
I've never commented on here before. I've followed the site for a long time just to read what others have to say. I joined a few days ago and am commenting now to share what I just learned today. I normally roll my eyes when people talk about their buddy's buddy who knows so and so said this or that. Well, I am going to tell you what I just heard today. My dad's boss is one of UT's biggest donors. He has Hart's cell. He lives in Jackson. My dad just called me and said his boss told him that a press conference will be announced Saturday and Gruden will be named head coach. He said there has been an issue with getting Gruden's brother on board because of his current contract with the Bengals. I told him he is full of it, but he believes it as though it is gospel. I don't believe it at all, but I want to believe it. So, I am just passing it on to you.
 
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#841
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It's nothing different than every other rumor out there. I'm only passing along what I was told. I never said it was true.
 
#844
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sjt18 said:
General rules concerning coaching candidate denials:

1) Few ever know for sure who was offered, who was wanted, who wanted the job, etc... the whole system is designed so that everyone saves face. In the end, both the school and new coach will assure everyone that it was love at first sight with no othera considered.

2) Only a concrete "I am not and will not be a candidate for this job" can be considered a "denial".... and even then rule 3 applies.

3) Things change... sometimes within minutes. A firm denial can turn into a handshake in a flash.

Believe nothing. Disbelieve nothing. Don't get your hopes up but don't let your hopes diminish to nothing. I will not be surprised if Gruden smiles at the camera on MNF over the next 3 weeks and says "Effective December 18th I will be the Head Coach of the Volunteers". I will not be surprised if some unknown is announced between now and the 10th of December.

If it does not happen next week... then you can brighten your outlook on Gruden... or dim your outlook that UT will get a high profile guy. Everyone on "the list" will be finished with their regular season after this weekend except Gruden. The sooner after that a currently active coach tells his team and starts his new job... the better for everyone.
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Thank you for excellent perspective. Also, have patience. Before any hire is made official, Hart is going to that conference in NYC. Until that is done, everyone needs to follow Hart's advice, and take a deep breath. Nothing is going to happen until after December 4. Be thankful it is him, and not Hamilton running this.

I know this much; whoever we get is going to be a helluva lot better than what we have had in the past. As much as I like Dooley as a man, he couldn't manage a game of tiddly winks. Hopefully, we are gonna get a guy who can 1 manage all facets of the game, can 2 bring in not only five star players, but develop the three and four star kids as well. 3 oversee position coaches and coordinators to insure the Vols, whether they win or lose, fight their asses off every damn play. I don't just hope for that, I freakin demand it. And 4 someone who can make us proud of all that without getting us in the crapper with the NCAA.

Now what do all us folks do that love the Vols do once this decision is made? In my opinion, whether it be Gruden, Strong, Malzahn, Peterson, Patterson, Golden, or any other competent coach that Hart and the powers that be bring in, if we see him out at a restaurant, at west town mall, or wherever, give the man a fist pump, and let him know he is appreciated for coming in to save our program. Whoever it is let's get behind the man. Let's make the whole world know what each of us know in their hearts; The University of Tennessee Volunteers is the greatest place in the universe for college football. To hell with Southern :finger3: Cal, to hell with Ala :finger3: bama, to hell with Flor :finger3: ida and Florida :finger3: State, THE :yuck: Ohio State, :machgun: Michigan, Notre :stinker2: Damn, and all those other idiots. WE ARE TENNESSEE.
 
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#846
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mfrantom said:
I've never commented on here before. I've followed the site for a long time just to read what others have to say. I joined a few days ago and am commenting now to share what I just learned today. I normally roll my eyes when people talk about their buddy's buddy who knows so and so said this or that. Well, I am going to tell you what I just heard today. My dad's boss is one of UT's biggest donors. He has Hart's cell. He lives in Jackson. My dad just called me and said his boss told him that a press conference will be announced Saturday and Gruden will be named head coach. He said there has been an issue with getting Gruden's brother on board because of his current contract with the Bengals. I told him he is full of it, but he believes it as though it is gospel. I don't believe it at all, but I want to believe it. So, I am just passing it on to you.
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thanks, so true. you didn't say anything that others havn't posted.....I think the caddy one was my fav....where Gruden was being picked up in that Caddy.
 
#847
#847
mfrantom said:
I've never commented on here before. I've followed the site for a long time just to read what others have to say. I joined a few days ago and am commenting now to share what I just learned today. I normally roll my eyes when people talk about their buddy's buddy who knows so and so said this or that. Well, I am going to tell you what I just heard today. My dad's boss is one of UT's biggest donors. He has Hart's cell. He lives in Jackson. My dad just called me and said his boss told him that a press conference will be announced Saturday and Gruden will be named head coach. He said there has been an issue with getting Gruden's brother on board because of his current contract with the Bengals. I told him he is full of it, but he believes it as though it is gospel. I don't believe it at all, but I want to believe it. So, I am just passing it on to you.
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If that is true, I am betting They won't have a PC Saturday. Hart is still going to that conference at the Waldorf Astoria. If it gets announced, it might be from there,or once he returns. But you, your dad and his boss don't need to be letting the cat out of the bag! :shhh: Oh Too Late! :banghead2:
 
#848
#848
Well this article is up and down, but I think I'm giving it more credibility than Channel 3 News out of Memphis, who is now the Weekly World News as far as I'm concerned. This one's from nbcsports, and although it's kind of up and down and taking only safe positions, it does provide the interesting nugget that Gruden may meet with the Vols AD this week. I guess that's something. Sort of.

Report: Jon Gruden may meet with Tennessee Volunteers AD soon | ProFootballTalk
 
#849
#849
1TNVOL said:
Well if JG deal doesnt happen,and I hope it does, I have no problem with Petrino. I wanna win..he's a heck of a recuiter and a proven coach/ winner(on the field) . I mean all he did was wreck a motorcycle...at least he didnt have a guy on the back of it.
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You and me are both on agreement. However, the holier than thou crowd we have to deal with here don't see it that way. I am certainly hoping that whoever we get WON"T have a guy on the back of a motorcycle.
 
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#850
#850
I tend to think that Vol fans are forcing Hart hand to try and hire Gruden. If hired, we deserve a pat on the back and credit for saving TN football
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