Nico getting contacted by other P5 Schools?

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VolMarine1371 said:
What did everyone think what was gonna happen when he isn’t getting a chance over a QB that has a 61 QBR? There are teams that are willing to give him a chance if Heupel won’t.

And again, how do you know he’s not ready? He has got to throw 5 passes all season long. He should have played more than what he has and yet Heupel won’t put him in because he doesn’t want a QB controversy if he plays better. Remember Heupel also thought Hooker wasn’t ready and started Milton over Hooker also.
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aRmo said:
Per Basilio, ND and USC both are contacting Nico. Take this with a grain of salt, i know TB is always on the "Sky is Falling" routine. I did not hear this myself because i do not listen to him. This was passed on to me by a friend who does. Someone can confirm. But my thoughts on this is, if he wants to go let him go. You gave him a hefty deal to come here. He wasnt ready, If he thinks he is and is unhappy let him leave.
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Basilio is the UT equivalent of a checkout line tabloid.

As others have said, if he "knows" something like this then both programs are flirting with big time penalties.

Second, why would Nico be looking around when the plan is playing out pretty much like he knew it would?

The obvious answer is that Basilio is completely full of crap,
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Hooker wasn’t world class out of the gate.
He replaced Milton because of injury and looked like he should have been the backup.

He came along quickly and his second season was outstanding. He worked hard and earned the respect and the right to be QB1 but to say that Hypel can’t evaluate talent….or even worse….played someone who he knew was inferior because we wanted to play the guy he recruited is ……just ****ing stupid.

Stop trolling and go look at Hypel’s career as an OC and head coach. His success isn’t because he accidentally found Hooker. He made Hooker. Not the other way around. To suggest otherwise (as you’ve done repeatedly) is either stupid or trolling. You could be stupid I guess, but I don’t think that’s it.

Good day, Troll
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You throw the word stupid around a lot for someone posting stuff that’s just not true, and stupid to boot. To say Hooker wasn’t better than Milton from the first game he played for us, when the man just posted the damn stats that prove he was, shows clearly you have no interest in the truth and are probably related to Milton. Furthermore, to say Hooker didn’t hit his stride until the second year is just a lie and depends on people not remembering how explosive our offense was even Hooker’s first year here. You think Milton would have thrown for three TDs against Missouri, SC, and Bama, four against UK, and five against Purdue that year? Guess how many times Milton has thrown for three TDs in his entire six-year college career? Twice - and one of them was at Michigan against Indiana. He has zero three-touchdown games this year.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Hooker wasn’t world class out of the gate.
He replaced Milton because of injury and looked like he should have been the backup.

He came along quickly and his second season was outstanding. He worked hard and earned the respect and the right to be QB1 but to say that Hypel can’t evaluate talent….or even worse….played someone who he knew was inferior because we wanted to play the guy he recruited is ……just ****ing stupid.

Stop trolling and go look at Hypel’s career as an OC and head coach. His success isn’t because he accidentally found Hooker. He made Hooker. Not the other way around. To suggest otherwise (as you’ve done repeatedly) is either stupid or trolling. You could be stupid I guess, but I don’t think that’s it.

Good day, Troll
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I don't recall him looking like a backup that year, he threw 31 TDs, ran for 600 yards and 5 TDs without starting the first two games.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Hooker wasn’t world class out of the gate.
He replaced Milton because of injury and looked like he should have been the backup.

He came along quickly and his second season was outstanding. He worked hard and earned the respect and the right to be QB1 but to say that Hypel can’t evaluate talent….or even worse….played someone who he knew was inferior because we wanted to play the guy he recruited is ……just ****ing stupid.

Stop trolling and go look at Hypel’s career as an OC and head coach. His success isn’t because he accidentally found Hooker. He made Hooker. Not the other way around. To suggest otherwise (as you’ve done repeatedly) is either stupid or trolling. You could be stupid I guess, but I don’t think that’s it.

Good day, Troll
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Milton was averaging 6.0yds a pass when he got hurt. Hooker replaced him and in same game led the team to 4 TD’s while completing 71% of his passes. Hooker was better than Milton from the jump, just go back and look at the numbers. Hooker threw for more yards and Td’s against Pitt in 2.5 quarters than Milton had through a complete game against Bowling Green, and 1.5 quarters of Pitt Combined. We know you love Milton, but don’t act like he was even half the QB Hooker was in 2021 or before.

Also no one said that Huepel couldn’t evaluate talent. I just simply said Hooker was already at UT before Heupel showed up and Heupel went and got Milton 3 months later. And now we all know that Huepel made a mistake starting Milton over Hooker.

Milton before UT- 86/152, 56.6%, 1194yds, 7.9avg, 5TD, 6int

Hooker before UT- 197/312, 63.1%, 2894yds, 9.5avg, 22TD, 7int

Milton- 3*(84)#60 #15 Pro, #60 ranked player in Florida
Hooker- 4*(91)#5 Dual Threat QB in country

Hooker has always been the better player between the 2. And Milton had Harbaugh as HC, while Hooker had Justin Fuente.
 
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Big Al Orange said:
Y’all can throw rocks at the jar head but he ain’t lying . Coach made a mistake but he’s still the best coach we’ve had in a very long time. I wouldn’t trade him for anybody right now and I suspect Nico understands his place and is fine with it. Joe’s not great but he has improved and last Saturday he at least knew where the sticks were.
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Joe may had been aware of the sticks, but him holding the ball 5 seconds was the reason he got smoked in the back that caused the fumble. He is still making the same mistakes he was making 2 years ago. When does it end or get better? Figure a 25 years old 6th year senior wouldn’t be making freshman mistakes still.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
Milton was averaging 6.0yds a pass when he got hurt. Hooker replaced him and in same game led the team to 4 TD’s while completing 71% of his passes. Hooker was better than Milton from the jump, just go back and look at the numbers. Hooker threw for more yards and Td’s against Pitt in 2.5 quarters than Milton had through a complete game against Bowling Green, and 1.5 quarters of Pitt Combined. We know you love Milton, but don’t act like he was even half the QB Hooker was in 2021 or before.

Also no one said that Huepel couldn’t evaluate talent. I just simply said Hooker was already at UT before Heupel showed up and Heupel went and got Milton 3 months later. And now we all know that Huepel made a mistake starting Milton over Hooker.

Milton before UT- 86/152, 56.6%, 1194yds, 7.9avg, 5TD, 6int

Hooker before UT- 197/312, 63.1%, 2894yds, 9.5avg, 22TD, 7int

Milton- 3*(84)#60 #15 Pro, #60 ranked player in Florida
Hooker- 4*(91)#5 Dual Threat QB in country

Hooker has always been the better player between the 2. And Milton had Harbaugh as HC, while Hooker had Justin Fuente.
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Hooker was tied with H. Bailey for 2nd/3rd string. When Milton got hurt no one knew who was going in. All 3 QBs were learning the system. Heupel and company felt Milton gave them their best shot based on athletic ability and figured he would develop as the season progressed.
 
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aRmo said:
Hooker was tied with H. Bailey for 2nd/3rd string. When Milton got hurt no one knew who was going in. All 3 QBs were learning the system. Heupel and company felt Milton gave them their best shot based on athletic ability and figured he would develop as the season progressed.
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And that was a big mistake. Hooker was a career 63% passer while Milton was 56% prior to UT. Hooker was a game changer and should have been the starter on day 1. It was obviously clear who the best QB was between the 2 by time that Pitt game was over with.

Milton completed 48% of his passes against Bowling Green, while Hooker completed 71% again Pitt and led them to 4 TD’s in 2.5 quarters. I think if Hooker was the starter we best Pitt in 2021.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
With all due respect Nico and his parents had a plan along with Heupel about how much Nico played this season. It has nothing to do with a Qb controversy. More so they want to protect Nico and give him the very best chance to succeed by waiting his turn, learning the offense and letting his body mature. To me that is smart. It is a good plan. When he steps back on the field he will be better prepared to play and play well without destroying his confidence
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“Destroying his confidence”? How you know he wouldn’t go out there and play better than Milton? Why is it you automatically think he is going to do bad? If he is what everyone thinks he is and will be, he will be just fine no matter when he plays. I’m not a #1 QB, but I’m sure a 5* QB could throw for more than 100yds in a game and have a 48 QBR.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
And that was a big mistake. Hooker was a career 63% passer while Milton was 56% prior to UT. Hooker was a game changer and should have been the starter on day 1. It was obviously clear who the best QB was between the 2 by time that Pitt game was over with.

Milton completed 48% of his passes against Bowling Green, while Hooker completed 71% again Pitt and led them to 4 TD’s in 2.5 quarters. I think if Hooker was the starter we best Pitt in 2021.
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You can't sit there with the benefit of hindsight and judge Heupel on picking Milton over Hooker back then. That's silly. His numbers were marginally better but he wasn't the dynamic, explosive playmaker up to that point. Nobody knew what Hooker was before he got his shot when Milton went down. Most people on here were crying about Bailey not getting a chance back then.
 
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Nico is not going anywhere lol relax it would make no sense he is being groomed the best way to take over this offense and run it at a high level from start number 1… patience y’all will be singing CJH praises next year when nico takes over…
 
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CR-vol said:
You can't sit there with the benefit of hindsight and judge Heupel on picking Milton over Hooker back then. That's silly. His numbers were marginally better but he wasn't the dynamic, explosive playmaker up to that point. Nobody knew what Hooker was before he got his shot when Milton went down. Most people on here were crying about Bailey not getting a chance back then.
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False, Hooker was better than Milton prior to UT.

Prior to UT:
Hooker- 197-312, 63.1%, 2894yds, 9.3avg, 22TD’s, 7int,. 247 rush, 1033yds, 4.2avg, 15TD’s.
4*- #5 Dual Threat QB in country

Milton- 86-152, 56.6%, 1194yds, 7.4avg, 5TD’s, 6int. 50 rush, 156yds, 3.1avg, 3 TD’s.
3* #60 player in Florida.

Milton had Harbaugh as HC while Hooker had z Justin Fuente. Hooker has been the best QB since coming out of High School. There’s a reason why Milton lost his starting job.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
False, Hooker was better than Milton prior to UT.

Prior to UT:
Hooker- 197-312, 63.1%, 2894yds, 9.3avg, 22TD’s, 7int,. 247 rush, 1033yds, 4.2avg, 15TD’s.
4*- #5 Dual Threat QB in country

Milton- 86-152, 56.6%, 1194yds, 7.4avg, 5TD’s, 6int. 50 rush, 156yds, 3.1avg, 3 TD’s.
3* #60 player in Florida.

Milton had Harbaugh as HC while Hooker had z Justin Fuente. Hooker has been the best QB since coming out of High School. There’s a reason why Milton lost his starting job.
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Marginally so. No-one thought he was a Heisman candidate when he went into the transfer portal. None of the QB "experts" here on VN were clamoring for Hooker to start over Milton. We didn't know what we had in Hooker until he got lucky and Milton went down. You didn't know he was the better QB until you had the benefit of hindsight. At the time he was just somebody that Beldar got from the transfer portal and most people didn't have any confidence in that. If Heupel doesn't think Nico is ready I'm good with that. I trust his judgment over yours or anyone on VN. He needs to bulk up at a minimum. If he looks like a bean pole out there next season like he did this season he's gonna get killed.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
You throw the word stupid around a lot for someone posting stuff that’s just not true, and stupid to boot. To say Hooker wasn’t better than Milton from the first game he played for us, when…
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stopped reading here.
Go look at the game threads.
Hooker wasn’t the better QB at the time. He just wasn’t. I get that y’all have a narrative and want that to be true so it would prop up a conspiracy that Nico Ivermectin (the savior) is being kept on the bench. But just like then, the people actually watching practice now know why it’s still Milton and not Nico.
 
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MurphyVol said:
I don't recall him looking like a backup that year, he threw 31 TDs, ran for 600 yards and 5 TDs without starting the first two games.
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Go back to the game threads. It’s all still there.
Let me ask you this. Why were the VT fans not upset about Hooker leaving? In his first 2 games why was the VT fan here saying I told you so.

Hooker worked hard and earned the spot but he wasn’t the obvious choice that y’all like to pretend
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
Milton was averaging 6.
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why were the VT fans here in the game threads saying “I told you so” in the first few game threads when Hooker got to play?

You’re pushing a Bull **** Narrative.
No coach who’s going to last in the SEC is going to put the second best player in just to see if he can play during the game.
I get that you wish you were a decision maker instead of a career order taker. But none of your BS matches reality.
If Hypel was in love with Milton he’d have put him back in over Hooker when Hooker developed. Before you start with the “but everyone could see…” nonsense, everyone watching practice said Milton was the better QB till he wasn’t. Then everyone watching practice said Hooker had developed into the better QB so that’s who played. Unlike CJP who took Tano out to put him back in over and over, Hypel goes with the best guy. It’s clear you don’t bother to read what the people watching practice are saying about the QBs. Now.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Go back to the game threads. It’s all still there.
Let me ask you this. Why were the VT fans not upset about Hooker leaving? In his first 2 games why was the VT fan here saying I told you so.

Hooker worked hard and earned the spot but he wasn’t the obvious choice that y’all like to pretend
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What game(s) did it look like to you that Milton was a better player than HH that season?

Milton's first start against Boling Green he completed 47% of his passes. The next game he started 7-12 and was injured.

Hookers first start he threw 3TDs and no picks. 2nd start 2TDs no picks. Third start 3TDs no picks. 4th start 3TDs no picks, etc, etc.

Why were the VT fans here? I don't know but my guess was to try and make themselves feel better about hiring a coach that took over a good program and drove them into a ditch.
 
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