NIL has already begun to get out of hand

[Lawrence Wright]

Yea because universities lack the foresight to hire an accountant to knock out all those filings

It’s almost as if some fans are projecting their particular financial situation onto the players.

 

[volfanbill]

It’s almost as if some fans are projecting their particular financial situation onto the players.

At the end of the day I think the haters are jealous for the most part. I mean it’s sucks that I couldn’t find a way to market myself in such a way to make good money, but I’m not mad at others for pulling it off. And I’m not about to say these kids found an easy way to do it

 

[n_huffhines]

Yea because universities lack the foresight to hire an accountant to knock out all those filings

All the big programs are going to have brand managers, social media consultants, accountants, etc.

 

[Dudleys87]

Soon you’ll have kids threatening to transfer if they don’t get more $$$

 

[n_huffhines]

Soon you’ll have kids threatening to transfer if they don’t get more $$$

The horror! Still have to sit out a year, right? Can you make more $ playing or not playing?

 

[RDU VOL#14]

People fear the unknown, and some fans feel as if they’re losing “control” of what’s unfolding, as if they had any control to begin with, or as if money hasn’t been changing hands under the table for decades.

And some fans are just flat out jealous and petty at the prospect of players getting paid.

I don’t care about anybody getting theirs. I care about the idea that there isn’t some sort of rule or governing body that’s looking out for what’s best for college football . My concern is that people are so concerned about moving on from something archaic, that should’ve been dealt with a long time ago that they aren’t thinking about what all the changes that taking place actually mean. I blame the ncaa whole heartedly in this, but I don’t think it’s wrong of me to not see this thing with some sort of regulation tied to it . In no way am I suggesting I have the answer to this predicament, or that we go back to the way that it used to be, but I think something better is out there other than all or nothing.

 

[volfanbill]

Soon you’ll have kids threatening to transfer if they don’t get more $$$

Oh noes. Players will look after themselves. I just can’t watch college sports no more

 

[LSU-SIU]

I don’t care about anybody getting theirs. I care about the idea that there isn’t some sort of rule or governing body that’s looking out for what’s best for college football . My concern is that people are so concerned about moving on from something archaic, that should’ve been dealt with a long time ago that they aren’t thinking about what all the changes that taking place actually mean. I blame the ncaa whole heartedly in this, but I don’t think it’s wrong of me to not see this thing with some sort of regulation tied to it . In no way am I suggesting I have the answer to this predicament, or that we go back to the way that it used to be, but I think something better is out there other than all or nothing.

Some college athletics have virtually little or NO regulation when it comes to compensation, others like the Ivy League and other division have regulated it even further no scholarships.

Big business college athletics needs regulation to keep the present business, normal college athletics really don't.

 

[lawgator1]

Would have been better for NCAA schools to be authorized to provide a stipend to all players, level playing field. Not a ton, maybe $1500 a month. Enough for them to afford stuff most college kids like.

Now the incentive to go where you can get short term benefit by playing sooner, even if its to your long term detriment, will be greater.

 

[volfanbill]

Would have been better for NCAA schools to be authorized to provide a stipend to all players, level playing field. Not a ton, maybe $1500 a month. Enough for them to afford stuff most college kids like.

Now the incentive to go where you can get short term benefit by playing sooner, even if its to your long term detriment, will be greater.

And how is it to their long term detriment?

 

[lawgator1]

And how is it to their long term detriment?

I guess I should have said "could be."

For example, stud running back can go to Alabama but kids in front of him so likely not start for a year, maybe two. But if he goes to Alabama, he will be in the best program for his development for the NFL.

Or, he can opt to go now to FSU and start as a freshman and cause a stir just by signing. Advance sale jerseys, a chance to make even more once the season starts.

Just thinking out loud that the chance of short term cash might cause a player to opt poorly for his future.

 

[volfanbill]

I guess I should have said "could be."

For example, stud running back can go to Alabama but kids in front of him so likely not start for a year, maybe two. But if he goes to Alabama, he will be in the best program for his development for the NFL.

Or, he can opt to go now to FSU and start as a freshman and cause a stir just by signing. Advance sale jerseys, a chance to make even more once the season starts.

Just thinking out loud that the chance of short term cash might cause a player to opt poorly for his future.

If the kid has it, he’s still going to have it at FSU.

 

[lawgator1]

If the kid has it, he’s still going to have it at FSU.

Disagree. A kid can "have it" but still come out of the college experience a more suitable fit for the NFL if he chooses one program over another.

 

[volfanbill]

Disagree. A kid can "have it" but still come out of the college experience a more suitable fit for the NFL if he chooses one program over another.

Alvin Kamara says hi.

Dalvin Cook came out of FSU just fine
Kareem Hunt didn’t seem troubled by playing at Toledo
Aaron Jones played at freaking UTEP

Ezekiel Elliot played at a top three/four program and wasn’t prepared for the NFL at all.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

I don’t care about anybody getting theirs. I care about the idea that there isn’t some sort of rule or governing body that’s looking out for what’s best for college football . My concern is that people are so concerned about moving on from something archaic, that should’ve been dealt with a long time ago that they aren’t thinking about what all the changes that taking place actually mean. I blame the ncaa whole heartedly in this, but I don’t think it’s wrong of me to not see this thing with some sort of regulation tied to it . In no way am I suggesting I have the answer to this predicament, or that we go back to the way that it used to be, but I think something better is out there other than all or nothing.

Concern over the lack of oversight, and the resulting short/long term implications is different from the “wait until they have to pay taxes” crowd.

Lack of oversight is how we got here, and your concerns are more than valid.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Soon you’ll have kids threatening to transfer if they don’t get more $$$

And when they transfer for more money, their taxes will go up.

 

[Raebo]

All the big programs are going to have brand managers, social media consultants, accountants, etc.

Recruiters will talk to recruits about the NIL contracts some of the other players have signed and probably have a list of businesses willing to sign them to a contract.

 

[Raebo]

Would have been better for NCAA schools to be authorized to provide a stipend to all players, level playing field. Not a ton, maybe $1500 a month. Enough for them to afford stuff most college kids like.
.

I could be wrong but I think many or most get about a 1000 a month. $500 a month in Pell grants and $500 a month from some slush fund for "cost of college attendance".

 

[golfballs]

It’s also funny how so many think the female athletes, many with six and even seven figure followers on social media aren’t cashing in from this

Especially when they start an onlyfans page.

 

[hog88]

Recruiters will talk to recruits about the NIL contracts some of the other players have signed and probably have a list of businesses willing to sign them to a contract.

Without a doubt.

 

[volfanbill]

Especially when they start an onlyfans page.

Good grief. And you mocked me for saying lulz.

 

[Wireless1]

I believe this step you're defining would not actually need to be added to the NLI. The school currently own their logos, colors, etc. and the players cannot use them without permission. The individual player's NIL does not entitle them to their schools intellectual property.

As for video games, etc, the schools already have marketing agreements in place that allow for their intellectual property to be used and themselves compensated accordingly.

I believe your statement on most athletes making limited amount of funds compared to the one select percent is correct, however even a worldly nominal amount like 5 or 10K per year to a college athlete could be viewed as a windfall, especially if they're able to make this money for something as simple as signing an autograph, or a personalized video message via social media.

The bigger issue for me is that now that players can make money on their NIL means it won't be long until those making smaller amounts realize they stand to make more money and have larger opportunities if they unionize. The Supreme Court ruling given last week went as far as to almost encourage it.

Sounds like I'll be watching Peewee football in about 5 years. I know the P5 could probably survive this but how in the world could the other 100+ colleges survive?

 

[Wireless1]

so boosters can pay a 5 star to sign with his school ?

And finally write it off!

 

[Otis1105]

I believe this step you're defining would not actually need to be added to the NLI. The school currently own their logos, colors, etc. and the players cannot use them without permission. The individual player's NIL does not entitle them to their schools intellectual property.

As for video games, etc, the schools already have marketing agreements in place that allow for their intellectual property to be used and themselves compensated accordingly.

I believe your statement on most athletes making limited amount of funds compared to the one select percent is correct, however even a worldly nominal amount like 5 or 10K per year to a college athlete could be viewed as a windfall, especially if they're able to make this money for something as simple as signing an autograph, or a personalized video message via social media.

The bigger issue for me is that now that players can make money on their NIL means it won't be long until those making smaller amounts realize they stand to make more money and have larger opportunities if they unionize. The Supreme Court ruling given last week went as far as to almost encourage it.

But NIL is just individual. What is to unionize? Who’s the employer? I think players will seek payment from schools at some point. They will then realize that I’m only making 50K from my employer, I pay taxes on that, my free education, free lodging, free meals, are all being taxed as a gift and I’m making less than I was before! Student athletes getting paid will not be what they think it is.

 

[Wireless1]

You are correct on unionization. It’s coming.

I can see boosters in a area or state combining funds to offer a young man an endorsement contract if he’d stay in state. Imagine a group of boosters offering Ty Simpson $250k or more.to sign with Tennessee. It’s coming I’m afraid.

Can we make it a PAC and have him run for student body president?