Nkamhoua out for the season

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#101
This is another blow to our already weak front court. We simply aren't good enough inside to compete with any good teams. We will rise
or fall on our 3-point shooting from here on, which has mostly been the case anyway since the start of the season.
 
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I think ON was the one post player that we truly could not afford to lose. I know he's been inconsistent just like the other posts, but I think, even when he's not playing great, he is still a plus defender as he has the athleticism to switch and guard the perimeter and he is the best rim protector of the posts who play right now. A small ball lineup with ON at C and JJJ at PF probably works in my mind, but I have my doubts about a Plavsic/Fulkerson/BHH at C and JJJ at PF small ball line-up due to rebounding and rim protection issues. The timing is awful as this team was finally seeming to get it together and losing ON is a huge step backwards in my view.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
"It's gonna come down to who is the best defensive player."
---Coach Barnes

The light needs to come on quickly for those big guys who've been watching the game from small chairs.
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If the light hasn't come on by this point in the season, im not holding my breath.
 
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turbovol said:
This is another blow to our already weak front court. We simply aren't good enough inside to compete with any good teams. We will rise
or fall on our 3-point shooting from here on, which has mostly been the case anyway since the start of the season.
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That's the way it was going to be with or without ON. I had hoped BHH would be playing like a 4 or 5 star player by now, but he's so young. Pretty clear he is what he is for this season so bombs away and pray from here on out.
 
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Per Basilio:

Olivier Nkamhoua Done For The Year?
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He could be after suffering what I'm told was a fairly significant fractured ankle. The word I got was that Olivier tried to get up after falling to the ground and literally couldn't put any weight at all on his extremity. When Chad Newman came out to get him on the floor Nkahmoua had a confused look on his face because he didn't think the way he fell should've resulted in a break of any magnitude let alone one that will cause him to miss perhaps the rest of the season.
 
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I certainly hate to see anyone injured and I hope for a speedy recovery, but as for the team this season, I felt ON hurt us on the floor and I believe we are a markedly better team with him out of the rotation, appreciate him and hope he recovers, but really don’t think this hurts us one bit down the stretch
 
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cncchris33 said:
Agree with all this except the TO-propensity. I don't feel like he's real careless with the ball, but he was recently vs Texas A&M, so there may be some subconscious recency bias, there.

The rebounding is odd because he was a great rebounder in his 10 games at Auburn, last year, averaging 6.1 rpg in 27.6 minutes, and that was primarily from the PG position. He's only averaging 1.7 rpg in 17 minutes, this year, and typically from the SF or big wing position. It really is confusing. Maybe an increase in minutes will also generate more continuity for him and he'll get in the flow more.

Honestly, if he isn't going to hunt his shot more, then if he could become focused on rebounding (we know he's capable), that could become his calling card. He's not a great defender, but he can shoot, pass, and rebound. Focus on those things and try to hide him on defense. The good news is that maybe he will draw the assignment of guarding a slower opponent instead of another guard, at times.
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He just hasn’t had enough minutes in consecutive games to become comfortable. Rhythm, flow, and continuity are so key with every player. I take everything that people say with a grain of salt at this point as far as his rebounding and defending. We know he can shoot the 3-ball, and the rest is really a “not-so-sure” proposition, in my opinion. If he gets regular minutes on a regular basis, I think we will see a well-rounded, basketball savvy player who can be be all-around good player in all areas.
 
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kbowersjr said:
I certainly hate to see anyone injured and I hope for a speedy recovery, but as for the team this season, I felt ON hurt us on the floor and I believe we are a markedly better team with him out of the rotation, appreciate him and hope he recovers, but really don’t think this hurts us one bit down the stretch
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I really thought he had bad hands, was turnover-prone, and didn’t hustle as much as he should have. I thought the last couple of games he showed some good, strong play offensively. However, I thought that play was against smaller lineups, so I was looking forward to how he might do against some bigger opponents. We won’t get a chance to know the answer. The one constant about ON is his defense and physicality, but I also think it will be interesting to put some other pieces to the puzzle. Lots of other options to explore, so it should be interesting.
 
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kbowersjr said:
I certainly hate to see anyone injured and I hope for a speedy recovery, but as for the team this season, I felt ON hurt us on the floor and I believe we are a markedly better team with him out of the rotation, appreciate him and hope he recovers, but really don’t think this hurts us one bit down the stretch
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Metrics suggest otherwise, our best lineups included him.
 
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cardvolfan said:
ON

Please elaborate, taking into account that every player in a set lineup is not equally effective.
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Our most efficient overall lineups mostly include ON, when it was exact same 4 on the court those guys were best with ON over Fulk or Plav. Make sense?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Our most efficient overall lineups mostly include ON, when it was exact same 4 on the court those guys were best with ON over Fulk or Plav. Make sense?
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My point is that ON underachieved relative to potential. You can have any lineup you want, but that lineup can be better when all 5 guys contribute equally to the results. There is also a reason ON didn’t average the minutes JJJ averaged. Bad hands and turnovers, plus some really bad basketball IQ. Really good defense, and better offensively the last 2 games.
 
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WhatInVolnation said:
I think ON was the one post player that we truly could not afford to lose. I know he's been inconsistent just like the other posts, but I think, even when he's not playing great, he is still a plus defender as he has the athleticism to switch and guard the perimeter and he is the best rim protector of the posts who play right now. A small ball lineup with ON at C and JJJ at PF probably works in my mind, but I have my doubts about a Plavsic/Fulkerson/BHH at C and JJJ at PF small ball line-up due to rebounding and rim protection issues. The timing is awful as this team was finally seeming to get it together and losing ON is a huge step backwards in my view.
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I do not think the stats support you on your assertations about ON. I hurt for him. The team will miss his minutes on the floor, I will be watching rebounds more than any other stat ... not sure anybody is 'ready' to take his place on the floor. He was getting very comfortable with a mid range game, that too will be missed. Will be watching to see if Powell tries to do any mid-range stuff.
I like him and he is much improved from last year. However, he has barely more total minutes on the floor than 2 backup players: ZZ and JF!!!!
His defense disappears when his head gets in a funk. Who has the plus - minus player rankings for our bb players?
 
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walkenvol said:
Then why hasn’t he established a solid role still in your opinion?
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He needs to work harder for his shot and be more active in rebounding. Also be more aggressive in taking the ball inside and play good defense. He is the best pure shooter on the team he needs to work harder for his shot.
 
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cardvolfan said:
My point is that ON underachieved relative to potential. You can have any lineup you want, but that lineup can be better when all 5 guys contribute equally to the results. There is also a reason ON didn’t average the minutes JJJ averaged. Bad hands and turnovers, plus some really bad basketball IQ. Really good defense, and better offensively the last 2 games.
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So has every other post on the roster, doesn’t negate the fact that ON was performing the best of that group.

Not sure why you’re mentioning JJ in comparison to ON, might as well mention Vescovi too? JJ is a 3/small ball 4, ON is neither of those things.
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
He needs to work harder for his shot and be more active in rebounding. Also be more aggressive in taking the ball inside and play good defense. He is the best pure shooter on the team he needs to work harder for his shot.
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My concern with Powell is speed ... he appears to be "slow" ... but ... is it because he is 'thinking too much' or does he have slow feet. It is possible that he does not move well without the ball or move to the right spots at the right time.
My thinking is ... his shot is a little on the slow side in how long it takes him to shoot.
He definitely needs to pick up his rebounding, we need him to pick up 3-5 more rebounds per game.
I just do not see him driving with the ball ... I can see more getting the ball at the high post and shooting or moving from there ... but driving agressively ... that is going to have to be next year or the year after.
jmo
Having said all of that ... I think ... if he maintains the progress arc from game 1 to now and continues that arc through the rest of the season ... we will all be delighted!
 
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cardvolfan said:
He just hasn’t had enough minutes in consecutive games to become comfortable. Rhythm, flow, and continuity are so key with every player. I take everything that people say with a grain of salt at this point as far as his rebounding and defending. We know he can shoot the 3-ball, and the rest is really a “not-so-sure” proposition, in my opinion. If he gets regular minutes on a regular basis, I think we will see a well-rounded, basketball savvy player who can be be all-around good player in all areas.
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I just don’t see how you support the first sentence. They’ve tried to feed him minutes but he didn’t produce. He’s a catch & shoot guy who’s not moving enough to get himself consistently open. No top SEC team can afford to play guys who don’t produce. Here’s another opportunity for Powell to step up and produce - hopefully he does
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So has every other post on the roster, doesn’t negate the fact that ON was performing the best of that group.

Not sure why you’re mentioning JJ in comparison to ON, might as well mention Vescovi too? JJ is a 3/small ball 4, ON is neither of those things.
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Vescovi has been terrific. No denying that. Not sure why I’m mentioning JJJ in relation to ON? Several reasons, which have to do with what I notice on a basketball court, which you seem to disregard.
 
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turbovol said:
This is another blow to our already weak front court. We simply aren't good enough inside to compete with any good teams. We will rise
or fall on our 3-point shooting from here on, which has mostly been the case anyway since the start of the season.
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It is a shame he got hurt. He was starting to play well offensively. And the team looked like it was about to take off like we been waiting on all year.
 
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cardvolfan said:
Vescovi has been terrific. No denying that. Not sure why I’m mentioning JJJ in relation to ON? Several reasons, which have to do with what I notice on a basketball court, which you seem to disregard.
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I just don’t know what one has to do with the other, I said our best lineups have been with ON as our post and then you wanted to bring up JJJ, that didn’t really make any sense. ON has been better than Fulk, Plav or BHH.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Yeah, but ON can play small-ball 5. Plavsic not so much. I never want to see anyone get hurt, but if we were going to lose a post player to injury we probably just lost our most valuable post-piece.

Fulkerson is going to have to nut up and play like he did against Arizona more consistently. We need him.
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Gotta hope BHH become more comfortable and can step into a bigger role.
 
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