Not bashing Tee Martin, but

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We are doing fine recruiting without him. Wish him the best...but we've moved on as a program...and so has he. He will land on his feet somewhere down the road. Lets focus on beating UGA and not worry about a west coast assistant coach.
 
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Not feeling sorry for Tee. Butch reached out and he stuck with Douchebag. Kiffen got we he deserved. At least Tee got to ride the bus team bus home from the airport. USC left Kiffy on the Tarmac. Catch a cab beeeitch. Reap what you sow. Kiffin should end up at Dallas with Doolittle and company. That would be Epic.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
It's a darn shame that Volnation is so saturated and besotted with people who are just plain hateful and spiteful. Not to mention ignorant. His wife had an entertainment gig or something and objected to moving to Tennessee. Anyone who is married to a strong-willed wife knows a woman can make your life miserable and beyond under certain circumstances. Just try working all day and part of the night, come home to a grumpy unhappy wife and see how long you last. Peace has its virtues even when it pisses off fans who don't have any darn sense. Nor care about their heroes unless they practically kneel to kiss your crack just because you say so. No wonder folks elsewhere look at Tennessee people as dumb hicks. Especially when so many act like that's exactly what they are. What's funny in a non-humorous way is that an ex-Viking player (kicker) from some European nation this recent summer stated that America is a nation of haters. This ticked me off big time. But seeing so much of it on the board, I wonder if he has it right after all, at least as far as it applies to Tennessee fans.
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While I am not a hater and get pissed at the constant negativity on this site, I do favor the side that doesn't think we need to immediately call him. He had a chance to come back to his alma mater, where he won a national title. It's not like he turned down any job. He would have enhanced his legendary status even more. I respect any man who makes that decision because they have to feel comfortable with it. But coaching is a profession with constant turnover, and he understands the gig. I am just surprised that he stayed with a coach who was publicly and clearly on the hot seat. IMO, Butch gave him a shot, and I see no reason why Butch would or should ask again. Actually, i think its a slap in the face to our current staff who have made the commitment to represent our fine school. I think Tee and Jay will have to work real hard to have another chance to come back. Lets move on. You can call me a redneck if you want, but I do have 2 degrees.
 
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Gruuden said:
Who cares, He won NC with peyton's team. He's not a VFL, Him and Jay Graham can both GTH
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This comment makes a lot of sense being that Peyton couldn't win a national championship with his own team. Might want to think first and post later.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
And here is the first a$$hole that bashes a guy that made a job choice as a family decision.

I guess you are the guy that prolly bashes any Vol at any chance you can.
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Are you really taking up for and feeling sorry for TEE for going with that bunch of losers of a staff instead of coming back to UT for basically the same money?

You're probably the @$$hole that still wants Kiffin at UT.

bUTch please!

:spank:

Tennesseeduke
 
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There is nothing wrong with choosing a job you think is better fit for you. Whats wrong is the way he did it. Made us beg him....played it all out on tv, locally ond on ESPN.To choose Tennessee's most hated enemy (Kiffin) and rub it in our faces nationally. He is not a Vol to me no matter what he did as a player. I don't wish him ill will I just don't give a damn what the hell he does. I'm not gonna waist any of my time pondering about it. Don't ever offer him a job here....he's not welcome. Maybe Kiffy will hire you at po-dunk-u.
 
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CurtWatson31 said:
couldn't agree more! Kiff got his!
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When people say that Kiffin got his, what exactly do you think is happening to him? He's gonna get a sweet buyout-he's already loaded. He lives in Southern California. He now has more time to decide which way to point Layla. And there's no telling what kind of poon he's nailing on the side.
If this is his big payback, he's doing better than 99% of the people on the planet.
 
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Milehigh_Vol said:
I would love to have Tee back. Kids in Tennessee love the guy. He loves Knoxville he has said it before. You got to realize he has kids and to anybody that has kids that is the 1st thing you should think about in life not some game or VFL stuff. He bleeds orange he is just a good hearted guy and cares about his family...
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What about the kid he left in Knoxville if he is father of the year material??
 
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TNVOLNUT said:
There is nothing wrong with choosing a job you think is better fit for you. Whats wrong is the way he did it. Made us beg him....played it all out on tv, locally ond on ESPN.To choose Tennessee's most hated enemy (Kiffin) and rub it in our faces nationally. He is not a Vol to me no matter what he did as a player. I don't wish him ill will I just don't give a damn what the hell he does. I'm not gonna waist any of my time pondering about it. Don't ever offer him a job here....he's not welcome. Maybe Kiffy will hire you at po-dunk-u.
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I agree he mad us look bad. He could of secretly turned us down but he had to have all the publicity so who cares if tee has a job or not
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Most of these bashers are prolly 15 years old or single. Tee has a family and had to make a family decision. I respect him for that. I hope we can find a way to bring him back. Hopefully this is a door opening with Kiffin being fired.
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Your theory is very flawed. The problem is he chose to stay with a guy who was already on the hottest seat in football, head coach wasn't hired by current AD, instead come to your alma mater where the new coach is going to get 3 or 4 years for sure. Seems to me he made the wrong decision for his family; unless it was to keep wife in Hollywood. Jmo, GBO
 
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TNVOLNUT said:
There is nothing wrong with choosing a job you think is better fit for you. Whats wrong is the way he did it. Made us beg him....played it all out on tv, locally ond on ESPN.To choose Tennessee's most hated enemy (Kiffin) and rub it in our faces nationally. He is not a Vol to me no matter what he did as a player. I don't wish him ill will I just don't give a damn what the hell he does. I'm not gonna waist any of my time pondering about it. Don't ever offer him a job here....he's not welcome. Maybe Kiffy will hire you at po-dunk-u.
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That is what pissed me off the most about the potential hire, he did not have to make some big news story by coming to knoxville for espn and the local media. Tee could have just told CBJ thanks but no thanks and been done with it.

some people are throwing out a $ 300,000 dollar figure that was offered to Tee but a lot of reputable media people reported $500,000 so we tried to pay the man.

Good luck to Tee, hate he lost his job, but we have a full staff and I dont see CBJ reaching out to him again.
 
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I would take Martin in a heartbeat over some of the jokers on this staff.

Would that be the same Martin who, when WR coach at UK, when asked by a UK beat reporter why his WRs were dropping so many balls, said, I have no idea, I've never played the position. I prefer Azzani.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
And here is the first a$$hole that bashes a guy that made a job choice as a family decision.

I guess you are the guy that prolly bashes any Vol at any chance you can.
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What is the good family decision about turning your back on your alma mater and going to coach for the guy who HELPED destroy our program? Tell me that, He has kids here in knoxville and went to coach at another ocean..... yeah, great father and family man smh
 
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After CarterVol, page 1 of this thread is out of control.

There were a LOT of things going on in Tee's life to choose USC. To excoriate a former Vol great for that decision is way over the top.
 
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VolGee4 said:
While I am not a hater and get pissed at the constant negativity on this site, I do favor the side that doesn't think we need to immediately call him.

I for one, NEVER said we should call him immediately or even at all. All I did was express despair and wonder at the hateful and spiteful posts regarding Tee.

He had a chance to come back to his alma mater, where he won a national title. It's not like he turned down any job. He would have enhanced his legendary status even more. I respect any man who makes that decision because they have to feel comfortable with it. But coaching is a profession with constant turnover, and he understands the gig. I am just surprised that he stayed with a coach who was publicly and clearly on the hot seat.

I stayed with an employer for 14 years that was often in the news for misappropriation of funds and sex related scandals. Who left hard working employees out to dry while granting undeserved favors to cronies and family members (nepotism), and got caught trying to find ways to siphon our retirement contributions into their own pockets. I stayed because I genuinely cared about the students' education and hoped to make a difference for them in a place that didn't really give a damn. What motivated Tee to stay? His haters here neither know nor care.

IMO, Butch gave him a shot, and I see no reason why Butch would or should ask again. Actually, i think its a slap in the face to our current staff who have made the commitment to represent our fine school.

As I understand it, he was snubbed more than once before. On top of that, USC simply outbid the UT. The man has a family. We're taught that God first, family second, everything else is third. But some fans damn him for that. Maybe it's best he don't come here anyway. Seeing as how people will turn on him at a moments notice. I think if he sat and crossed his legs instead of macho spreading them like a biker riding his Harley hog, people here would damn him for that too. Why come to a place where people, by all appearance, just sit back waiting for you to make the slightest error so they can spew venom at you?

I think Tee and Jay will have to work real hard to have another chance to come back.

Personally, I hope they never come back. They don't deserve to be treated the way they are on this board.

Lets move on. You can call me a redneck if you want, but I do have 2 degrees.

Big deal. One doesn't have to be a redneck to be a jackass. Degrees doesn't mean you can't be a jackass either. Not that you're a jackass. I have a lot more respect for you than you realize. You wrote a post that stated your position intelligently. Disagreed without being obnoxious. Quite frankly, I think too many people of any background or ethnicity are too darn stupid and arrogant to do what you did. Jerry Springism is alive and well here and nationally. Once again, my issue is the swiftness at which UT fans turn on their own, and the level of outright hate that's so explicitly illustrated here. It's the behavior not the skin color or depth of red in the neck or number of degrees I'm referring to. I'd say the same thing if I was a Grambling alumni and a member of their board. Same thing I was a Darmouth University of little Centre College board member.
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And there it is.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I feel very bad for him. He uprooted his family to move to the West Coast. I guess I never realized that wanting Kiffin to fall right on his face meant Tee, one of the greats at UT, to also end up in a bad situation. My only wish? To see Tee be interim!!!

Good Luck Tee. Bring her on home to Rocky Top next year!!!
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Why feel bad for him??
1. HE made the choice to work for Kiffin.
2. HE made the choice to turn down UT.
3. Coaching is a business. Those were his decisions.
4. Now he can reap what he sows.
 
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