Nothing against Kevin Durant..

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I went back and watched the second half and overtime of the Texas game. Lofton was the player of the game, but Duke Crews and Chism were definitely the heroes of the game. The 2 freshman played like men. They owned the paint and scored at will. Ramar played pretty good also. Sad to see what could have been with the 2 of them. They had so much potential.
 
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Love the Heat and can't stand Lebron but I hope the Thunder get destroyed. Durant is an amazing player though but that three point Lofton hit over him was pretty amazing. Also, really sick of the nerd look. You NBA guys with millions of dollars look DUMB!
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
If every team had a closed envelope of a fantasy draft with their 1st pick inside. Every single team would start with LeBron. Best across the board player probably since Oscar Robertson. Over 82 games his stiff teams he was dealt in Cleveland had leagues best record.
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I agree and would take him too but there are too many times in his career where he seems to disappear like the dallas series last year....he has improved every season so maybe this yr he is turning that corner in his career.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I agree and would take him too but there are too many times in his career where he seems to disappear like the dallas series last year....he has improved every season so maybe this yr he is turning that corner in his career.
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He is learning the little things now. The fire in his eyes in game 6 of this past series is from all the naysayers. Now I don't think the Heat are near the team as the Thunder but I believe LeBron is going to play like a crazy man in this finals so who knows. I think the young man has it figured out now.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
He is learning the little things now. The fire in his eyes in game 6 of this past series is from all the naysayers. Now I don't think the Heat are near the team as the Thunder but I believe LeBron is going to play like a crazy man in this finals so who knows. I think the young man has it figured out now.
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Couldn't agree more man. If Wade plays like he has been playing there is no way the Heat will win. Lebron is going to go crazy this series, I just hope the rest of his team feeds off it.
 
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LeBron is, without question, the best in the NBA right now...but you all are writing Kevin Durant off WAY TOO QUICKLY.

Sure, he isn't the defender that Bron is, but his defensive skills have vastly improved over the last 3 seasons (and especially in these playoffs).

He is just as good of a rebounder that LeBron is (they averaged basically the same number in that category).

KD has the greatest potential of any player we've seen in a long time, since he's only 23.

Some of you LeBron fanboys make me sick, though. Does it kill you to show any other player some respect?

Rant over.
 
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Jerry the Clown said:
LeBron is, without question, the best in the NBA right now...but you all are writing Kevin Durant off WAY TOO QUICKLY.

Sure, he isn't the defender that Bron is, but his defensive skills have vastly improved over the last 3 seasons (and especially in these playoffs).

He is just as good of a rebounder that LeBron is (they averaged basically the same number in that category).

KD has the greatest potential of any player we've seen in a long time, since he's only 23.

Some of you LeBron fanboys make me sick, though. Does it kill you to show any other player some respect?

Rant over.
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I earlier said he is 2nd best player in the game. But without developing something strength or speed wise he wont be able to defend like LeBron. I like KD and he has the better overall team. If I had to make a franchise I would be ecstatic if I had either man. For instance saying you think (insert whoever you think is hottest) and if you can't date her and have to settle for second hottest on the planet doesn't make her ugly. Either way you are lucky. Trust me no way anybody is turning down a chance to land Durant on their roster if given the oppurtunity.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
I earlier said he is 2nd best player in the game. But without developing something strength or speed wise he wont be able to defend like LeBron. I like KD and he has the better overall team. If I had to make a franchise I would be ecstatic if I had either man. For instance saying you think (insert whoever you think is hottest) and if you can't date her and have to settle for second hottest on the planet doesn't make her ugly. Either way you are lucky. Trust me no way anybody is turning down a chance to land Durant on their roster if given the oppurtunity.
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I agree with that analogy but the reason I question James being the best player in the game is bc of series like last seasons championship series when he averaged 17.8 points for the series and had one game where he scored 8 points.....could you imagine Jordan, bird, magic or even Kevin Durant having a series like that and things like that has happened multiple times in his career...

Wearing out the celtics who are very old, slow and my fave the sixers pushed to seven games does not impress me....bringing it against okc win or lose will be impressive.
 
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Jerry the Clown said:
LeBron is, without question, the best in the NBA right now...but you all are writing Kevin Durant off WAY TOO QUICKLY.

Sure, he isn't the defender that Bron is, but his defensive skills have vastly improved over the last 3 seasons (and especially in these playoffs).

He is just as good of a rebounder that LeBron is (they averaged basically the same number in that category).

KD has the greatest potential of any player we've seen in a long time, since he's only 23.

Some of you LeBron fanboys make me sick, though. Does it kill you to show any other player some respect?

Rant over.
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Greatest potential in a long time? You mean after LeBron retires.
 
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volbeast33 said:
It will be proven one way or the other in this series.
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No it won't.

If the Thunder win the title it doesn't automatically make him better than LeBron.

LeBron has been and will continue to be the best player in the world.

Durant is amazing and getting better but he will never be able to do what LeBron does on defense.
 
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GahLee said:
No it won't.

If the Thunder win the title it doesn't automatically make him better than LeBron.

LeBron has been and will continue to be the best player in the world.

Durant is amazing and getting better but he will never be able to do what LeBron does on defense.
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lebron has the best talent but to be the best player he has to prove it on the court every day .....the best player in the nba does not avg 17.8 points per game and be held to 8 in one game like the king was in the last championship....name.anothet superstar that has a tendency to fade like he does.....wind or lose.he has to.bring it.
 
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volbeast33 said:
lebron has the best talent but to be the best player he has to prove it on the court every day .....the best player in the nba does not avg 17.8 points per game and be held to 8 in one game like the king was in the last championship....name.anothet superstar that has a tendency to fade like he does.....wind or lose.he has to.bring it.
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His only detriment is unselfishness. LeBron before had the fault of loving the game too much. But after a whole year of getting blasted for the Decision and losing the finals last year as well as the not, 5,6,7 pep rally (which was in fun by the way). But now he has a disdain to show the world to prove them wrong.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
His only detriment is unselfishness. LeBron before had the fault of loving the game too much. But after a whole year of getting blasted for the Decision and losing the finals last year as well as the not, 5,6,7 pep rally (which was in fun by the way). But now he has a disdain to show the world to prove them wrong.
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Being unselfish if that was what it was is a bad quality......I was left wondering if he was.even on the court last year at times.....if he has learned to will his team to victories then good for him but he did not prove it by doing it against the celtics.....the sixers almost beat them in seven.....it is not about his decision but abouy him showing up in big games......eight points is not being unselfish...its pathetic.
 
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Daloth said:
Do you watch the NBA?

Lebron put up record setting numbers this year, in a condensed schedule (that means nothing if you don't understand how difficult it is.) He had a higher PER this year than Michael Jordan's best year (which was the previous highest).

Lebron had more assists and rebounds than durant this year, and in the playoff averages more points on less shots as well.

Durant is the best pure scorer since 2008 Melo on the Nuggets, but he is in no way better than Lebron as a player (and to be honest, if not for The Decision, Lebron would've won the MVP last year as well).

Better passer, Lebron
Better rebounder, Lebron
Better defender, Lebron by a mile
Better scorer, Durant

(all with stats to back it up)

Sorry to burst your lebron hate bubble, but he has lived up to the hype outside of winning a ring.

And regardless of that, OKC wins it all in 6 because their bench and role players are so far ahead of Miami that even if you had shane battier and Juwon Howard in their primes they'd still be better.
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Agreed. Not even a conversation until Durant (a) learns to pass and (b) actually runs down to the defensive end, then successfully defends someone. Reminds me a lot of the Iceman.
 
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papatomany said:
Agreed. Not even a conversation until Durant (a) learns to pass and (b) actually runs down to the defensive end, then successfully defends someone. Reminds me a lot of the Iceman.
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There is someone who has seen alot of players come and go if you remember George Gervin. I like to hear my dad who is 77 compare James to others. In my pops eyes the most dominant player starts and stops with Wilt Chamberlain. He however says LeBron is a top 5 player.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I disagree with this assessment...Lebron James deserved his MVPs and is the most physically gifted player in the NBA.......he still has a lot to prove however and will get the chance to prove it against oklahoma city....Durant shows up and plays the same every game, win or lose.....Lebron has had a tendency to fade to the back ground in the past.
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So who has faded this series, Lebron or KD? KD was a no show last night in the 4th quarter, while Lebron was making plays. Then Lebron puts up nearly a triple double and drills a HUGE 3 that was the dagger in the thunders back.
 
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#73
Kobe Bryant > Everyone else that dribbles a basketball.

Heat only 1 game away :fireworks:
 
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