Now Joe Says He Will Debate

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85SugarVol said:
No, but I’d say solidly to the right of the median. Would you disagree?
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Depends on the lens. I would agree with your assessment. But many on the left would consider me far right for various reasons (strongly pro 1a, opposition to government assistance, proponent of free markets).

I also think if you view the question through an economic lens only, it would be fair to call me “far right”.
 
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utvolpj said:
What did they do with people they just fought a war against? Hmmm. I don't really care about what the ME countries do as it's not a model I would like to emulate

It's not a hornets nest it's that your ideas are kinda nonsense. That's really true when you complain about others and their respect for the constitution but espouse ideas that also go directly against it.
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The loyalist remaining were no just soldiers..but what happened to them, were they allowed to stay or not and why???
You know the answer to this....
Let's try this...would you allow another to live with you and your family whom bad mouthed you everyday and whom you knew would celebrate and maybe even participate in your death??? Why either way??
Or
As a business owner would you allow a group to be hired in and then decided not to work but still wanted to be paid...would you fire them or keep them on and let that spread to your other workers??

And for the record you can have religious freedom while still protecting American values of Christianity, of which the FFs were some denomination on Christian, as they came from Christian households...
 
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Vol8188 said:
Depends on the lens. I would agree with your assessment. But many on the left would consider me far right for various reasons (strongly pro 1a, opposition to government assistance, proponent of free markets).

I also think if you view the question through an economic lens only, it would be fair to call me “far right”.
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Certainly there is variation across individual issues.

On Abortion, there are few (if any) in here that would land Left of me.
On Firearms, there are few in here that would land Right of me.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
The loyalist remaining were no just soldiers..but what happened to them, were they allowed to stay or not and why???
You know the answer to this....
Let's try this...would you allow another to live with you and your family whom bad mouthed you everyday and whom you knew would celebrate and maybe even participate in your death??? Why either way??
Or
As a business owner would you allow a group to be hired in and then decided not to work but still wanted to be paid...would you fire them or keep them on and let that spread to your other workers??
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It was the 1700s and they're was no constitution. It was also immediately following a war. There is no way you believe this is close to relevant.

We have laws about someone participating in the death of another. What a ridiculous example

Now it's a business? Why can you not just address the fact you want to ignore the laws of this country and get rid of people who don't worship your god or speak a language you understand? Your ideas clearly violate the ideas contained in the 1st amendment and you seem to wish it give. What else do you want to get rid of to have your utopia (of only Christian English speakers)?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Maybe if you count all VN members. But if you mean “regular posters in the political forum”, I’m not certain there’s 100 people total
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I think there are. I counted about 25 just in the first 3 pages of this thread....and that didn't include some of the regulars.

If I get really bored.....................
 
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Biden administration officials have made it clear that the primary reason Biden chose to debate Trump is… because he can win. As Biden pointed out in his debate announcement, Trump has avoided debating opponents.

So, he’s bad at it and out of practice. Not a good combination.

The Biden team calculus has to be based in part on the fact that it’s Trump who is actually losing his marbles. How else do you explain his recent praise for Hannibal Lecter and his noticeably slurred words during speeches?
 
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utvolpj said:
It was the 1700s and they're was no constitution. It was also immediately following a war. There is no way you believe this is close to relevant.

We have laws about someone participating in the death of another. What a ridiculous example

Now it's a business? Why can you not just address the fact you want to ignore the laws of this country and get rid of people who don't worship your god or speak a language you understand? Your ideas clearly violate the ideas contained in the 1st amendment and you seem to wish it give. What else do you want to get rid of to have your utopia (of only Christian English speakers)?
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The point is hypothetical...it regarding the issue we are having in this country of not all diversity is good diversity..and yes I gave different examples of how a element that doesn't fit with your home or business would be removed by you...but I stead on conceding that point..your arguing I'm against the constitution l..I already addressed I'm no advocating for it..I'm speaking in theory and your lack of response to the questiond I posed show me that you understand just and just wanna argue....no where have i said that is how I want it...I said I believe we are in that position as a nation, as was Rome before the fall etc...anf with that I'm done because you can't have a conversation good faith...
 
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VolTull said:
Biden administration officials have made it clear that the primary reason Biden chose to debate Trump is… because he can win. As Biden pointed out in his debate announcement, Trump has avoided debating opponents.

So, he’s bad at it and out of practice. Not a good combination.

The Biden team calculus has to be based in part on the fact that it’s Trump who is actually losing his marbles. How else do you explain his recent praise for Hannibal Lecter and his noticeably slurred words during speeches?
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Biden can’t read the teleprompter. What’s he gonna do in the debates?

Are earpieces allowed lol?
 
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My biggest concern... and the way Trump doesn't start being, well, Trump, is the fact checking.

Facing facts, the first time Biden spouts off he received a 9% inflation from Trump, Trump will need to get the moderators involved in a fact check.

Now, whether they do is the issue at hand. Trump can easily mop the floor with Biden if he sticks to the facts and brings up the nonsense Biden says as untrue. It's getting CNN and ABC to admit it to a national audience that's key.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Quote this for @n_huffhines I’m interested in both of your views.

You think there are 100+ Conservative/Republican/Far Right posting in this forum? I find that hard to believe.

(I’ve posted this before) -
Democrats/Liberals/Progressives
Tvolsfan
LG
EL
Luther
Clearwater
BowlBrother
Velo
Devo
Turbo
TNRibs
LostSheep
Hunerwadel
Nashvol
Woodsman
MontyPython
Jackrevol
MercyPercy
K-Town
Marco
Berry4Heisman
VolinMichigan
VolTull

Certainly not “Far Right”
BigMojo
Septic
PJ
Dink
Eastern
Huff
VolfanHill
GAvol
RockyTop
Pepper
Slice
Louder

Weird Russian Plants
Ras
Pacer
Volgr

Angry Old Men
McDad
Hog
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I probably said this before but you missed a few - like volmain.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
The point is hypothetical...it regarding the issue we are having in this country of not all diversity is good diversity..and yes I gave different examples of how a element that doesn't fit with your home or business would be removed by you...but I stead on conceding that point..your arguing I'm against the constitution l..I already addressed I'm no advocating for it..I'm speaking in theory and your lack of response to the questiond I posed show me that you understand just and just wanna argue....no where have i said that is how I want it...I said I believe we are in that position as a nation, as was Rome before the fall etc...anf with that I'm done because you can't have a conversation good faith...
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Why hypotheticals when there's an idea to discuss? You're making up scenarios that aren't even close to similar. How can you be worried about good faith when you won't even acknowledge your ideas and in direct conflict with the 1st? Rome's fall has very little in common with the current USA problems

You state you believe they're should only be one religion and one language. How does that work with the constitution? Does that increase or decrease freedom?
 
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Vol423 said:
It's humorous that you seem to believe that right-wingers/trumpers are one category.
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I don't. If I did, I wouldn't have listed both.
They do both share a disdain for the left.

I'm also shocked at how completely trump was able to take over the party and the right in general.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I probably said this before but you missed a few - like volmain.
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There have been others.

VolMain was one. But I don’t think he’s here anymore?

Same for ClarksVol and Mick, someone mentioned Prof (been gone a decade), others too.

All of those mentioned in the list are still active and posting in the forum (with varying levels of frequency).

I didn’t even list Zeppelin lol
 
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85SugarVol said:
There have been others.

VolMain was one. But I don’t think he’s here anymore?

Same for ClarksVol and Mick, someone mentioned Prof (been gone a decade), others too.

All of those mentioned in the list are still active and posting in the forum (with varying levels of frequency).

I didn’t even list Zeppelin lol
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weird thing..Clark had an international trip planned and hasnt been seen since..weird
 
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