'20 NV ILB Vai Kaho (San Diego State commit)

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Sleegro said:
This article basically describes what I think he's grooming Aaron Beasley for. Not really a pass rush olb but a sub package lb safety hybrid that is good in pass coverage but adds more in run d than a smaller db. I think saban refers to it as the money position. This may or may not apply to kaho. But it doesn't really show that Pruitt wants his inside linebackers to be 250 lbs. Just specifically talking about how he sees McDonald fit.
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And Kaho would probably fall into same type role.
 
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Wormwood said:
Not really. Says he’s basically almost maxed out his frame. He’s not lengthy enough to add 20 lb without turning into a block of cheese haha.
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lol but how on earth would they know that..
Good speed but not solid. If weight is added chances are he becomes an every down back (dumb.. I know. but this is my exact point WW)
 
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benholt06 said:
Expected nothing less.

No I actually didn't give, because I only noticed on the tail end of the whole thing anyway.

Charger is obviously not doing anything wrong. I simply wondered from his perspective if it changed anything. I've lurked around here for awhile and he's one of the contingent here that seems to enjoy popping in and telling folks their takes suck, and I'm paraphrasing. Lots of posters do that, I guess they shy away from conflict in their every day lives so they scratch some sort of combative itch in here. Anyway I guess I just wondered if he ever dealt with a dilemma over it. Doesn't sound like he did, and that's ok.

And you're the A1 defender of such folks butchna. Your assertion is that if your take sucks, you'e inviting it on yourself. The tendency of many in here is to warp any nuanced argument and place it into a two-sided, black and white, hate it or love it situation. And you end up arguing something that you never really posited in the first place.

But I guess I finally bit back a little too hard. I'll go ahead and do the public mea culpa to charger. Sorry dude.
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I’ll confess. You’ve obviously pored over and overanalyzed my posts and compiled a “tendencies” tab...I’ve had no interest in similar due diligence on your posts. I typically have a standard reaction to REALISTS and self styled MARTYRS on this board...😴. We know you’re the only one who cares about the quality of our recruiting and is brave enough to express reservations on a target...OVER AND OVER AND OVER...😴 I did notice that you keep bringing up Eason as someone you prefer over Kaho. Weird point...him being committed to us and all. When Haynes King was a possibility, I disagreed with making him a priority because I didn’t feel TWO face of the program QB’s ends up working out. Was strongly disagreed with many including like machine Ron Swanson. Held my ground and never feigned that I was being “attacked”. I put my opinion on the board...and I got a REACTION. I also didn’t hop onto every post reminding everybody what my opinion was. Life went on and then you showed up...true story. 😎
 
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MoB_MoVols said:
lol but how on earth would they know that..
Good speed but not solid. If weight is added chances are he becomes an every down back (dumb.. I know. but this is my exact point WW)
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Well no one knows anything. Scouting isn’t an exact science. I could end up very wrong and Kaho is an NFL Hall of Fame ILB. It’s all talk until it’s done.
 
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Wormwood said:
Well no one knows anything. Scouting isn’t an exact science. I could end up very wrong and Kaho is an NFL Hall of Fame ILB. It’s all talk until it’s done.
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True but you have to admit.. these recruiting sites have the best (armchair) quarterback depth in the game.. might have to add one to our KFFL team in the spring.. we could use a quality arm
 
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Wormwood said:
He’s 215 right now. But his listed 6’2 is inaccurate. Closer to 6’ (see pic standing with Pruitt yesterday on visit). Even at 6’ 225 hes small for a 3-4 LB. You understand that right? Our guys are all 6’3 240 average. French is coming in at 260. Eason 250. JJP, Henry, Bituli, Jordan Allen, Johnson, Darrell Taylor etc. are 235 to 260.

And he’s in no way, shape or form... more explosive than Henry T. Straight line speed probably faster in the 40, yes but weighs 30 lb less than Henry. But explosion isn’t even comparable. 3-7 yard burst is not even really debatable.

All that said, again, I like this kid and I see him as a 6’1 220 STAR thumper. He’s played safety and LB so coverage near LOS would be very strong.
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How tall is Pruitt? I sincerely don't know.

Kaho is standing behind him in the photo on the right. He appears to be an inch or 2 taller than Pruitt in the photo on the left where they are side by side. I found a picture of JG and Pruitt. Kaho appears to be shorter than JG but taller than Pruitt- 6'2" isn't unreasonable.
 
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Wormwood said:
Well no one knows anything. Scouting isn’t an exact science. I could end up very wrong and Kaho is an NFL Hall of Fame ILB. It’s all talk until it’s done.
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Let me ask you one simple question.. What if Pruitts evaluation is different than the one you posted.. Which one do you trust.. Guy sitting behind the computer or the one that saw him in person?
 
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MoB_MoVols said:
True but you have to admit.. these recruiting sites have the best (armchair) quarterback depth in the game.. might have to add one to our KFFL team in the spring.. we could use a quality arm
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Ha hey, I love this stuff man. And yes they generally are pretty good. I remember bashing Luginbill for his scout on K. McKenzie. He was the only one who wasn’t as high on him and turned out to be pretty spot on. I would’ve loved to see him on OL for 4 years but his camps at DT were some of the best camp highlights I’ve ever seen so as much as Butch screwed up on position stuff I can’t blame him on that one.
 
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butchna said:
I’ll confess. You’ve obviously pored over and overanalyzed my posts and compiled a “tendencies” tab...I’ve had no interest in similar due diligence on your posts. I typically have a standard reaction to REALISTS and self styled MARTYRS on this board...😴. We know you’re the only one who cares about the quality of our recruiting and is brave enough to express reservations on a target...OVER AND OVER AND OVER...😴 I did notice that you keep bringing up Eason as someone you prefer over Kaho. Weird point...him being committed to us and all. When Haynes King was a possibility, I disagreed with making him a priority because I didn’t feel TWO face of the program QB’s ends up working out. Was strongly disagreed with many including like machine Ron Swanson. Held my ground and never feigned that I was being “attacked”. I put my opinion on the board...and I got a REACTION. I also didn’t hop onto every post reminding everybody what my opinion was. Life went on and then you showed up...true story. 😎
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Haven't pored over your posts. I could translate the Dead Sea Scrolls into Mandarin in the time it'd take.

I don't repeat my takes unless solicited by smartassery as I was today.

Don't know why my Eason over Kaho preference is weird. Guys have been pushed out to make room before. And according to this thread Kaho is for sure a Vol.

Agree on Haynes King. Thought it was a waste to pursue him.

An "attack" is a harsh word for a bunch of dweebs on a forum banding together on somebody. If I've ever called it that it was poor usage.

Glad you're able to keep such perspective. But hey with all those posts do you have problems with carpal tunnel? What sort of medicated cream do u recommend for the pain?
 
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Wormwood said:
I like how you ignored the 6 LB that fit my description and Crouch playing ILB now.

And again, Foster’s weight was more like 240 when he reported.

I guess you also believe Grant Williams is 6’8 and Marcus Tatum was 285 in high school when he was more like 250?
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All of those 6 yer talking about including crouch played edge rush olb. I don't think crouch ever lined up inside. If foster reported at 240 then Pruitt had him slim down to 228 by his senior season so that helps my point. And mentioning guys who's weights are listed higher than what you think they actually were also contradicts yer point and supports mine. All these rosters are on the internet, you can look them up.
 
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sjt18 said:
How tall is Pruitt? I sincerely don't know.

Kaho is standing behind him in the photo on the right. He appears to be an inch or 2 taller than Pruitt in the photo on the left where they are side by side. I found a picture of JG and Pruitt. Kaho appears to be shorter than JG but taller than Pruitt- 6'2" isn't unreasonable.
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He doesn’t appear taller than him to me? Maybe even an inch shorter. Consider he’s standing straight and Pruitt is leaned in.... Pruitt is 6’0. Neids is about 6’2 and he’s definitely leaned over and still taller...
 
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Sleegro said:
All of those 6 yer talking about including crouch played edge rush olb. I don't think crouch ever lined up inside. If foster reported at 240 then Pruitt had him slim down to 228 by his senior season so that helps my point. And mentioning guys who's weights are listed higher than what you think they actually were also contradicts yer point and supports mine. All these rosters are on the internet, you can look them up.
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Crouch didn’t because of “best players on the field” concept with Bituli and Henry there. It’s been reported he’s locked in at ILB now during bowl prep to see jf he can take over for Bituli. I wish he’d go play RB. I don’t see it with him on D but I know it’s early. His lateral movement is awful.
 
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