Obama: “I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money…”

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MG1968 said:
so, those 8 thousand people should have kept their job, thus forcing the company to have an even worse year?

not getting where you're going with this
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Where did I say nobody should have been laid off?

I just said I probably wouldn't taken a raise in that year.

It's called reading comprehension, join us it's a blast.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
Most everyone had an "off year" last year.

Job #1 of the CEO is to make investors happy. If he did that, then he did his job. My guess is that his success is measured in numbers. If he did that then he did his job and deserves it.
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That is your opinion, but if I were in his shoes and the bod said they were going to give me a raise I would have declined raise and taken my normal bonus.

Just personal decision, you are free to make your own decision.
 
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Vols520 said:
Where did I say nobody should have been laid off?

I just said I probably wouldn't taken a raise in that year.

It's called reading comprehension, join us it's a blast.
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I comprehend just fine and it sounds to me like you've bought into this leftist notion of "fairness" or "economic justice".
 
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Vols520 said:
That is your opinion, but if I were in his shoes and the bod said they were going to give me a raise I would have declined raise and taken my normal bonus.

Just personal decision, you are free to make your own decision.
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About 15 people got laid off at my company last year our of roughly 250. I got a nice bonus and a raise.

Would you have told them no thanks in my shoes?
 
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MG1968 said:
I comprehend just fine and it sounds to me like you've bought into this leftist notion of "fairness" or "economic justice".
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I didnt' say he shouldn't have been able to take a raise, I said I wouldn't have done it. It's a personal opinion and nothing more.

Once again, it's reading comprehension. Stop being so right vs. left.
 
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droski said:
let's not forget his lifetime pension, lifetime security detail, and lifetime office budget. but hey as long as the american taxpayer is paying for it, it's a o,.
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What happened to leading by example? Can't he distribute his tax return among the people in need?
 
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tigervol9802 said:
About 15 people got laid off at my company last year our of roughly 250. I got a nice bonus and a raise.

Would you have told them no thanks in my shoes?
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Well a couple of things...big difference in the amounts of money. If I can make 15 vs 20 million it probably doesn't matter as much.

In your shoes, no offense it probably greatly improved your quality of life.

Every situation is different. I am only saying if I was in that guys shoes. Not the shoes of a guy making significantly less, and even a small raise will boost his quality of life substantialy.

Nothing is black and white, lots of grey area.
 
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Vols520 said:
Well a couple of things...big difference in the amounts of money. If I can make 15 vs 20 million it probably doesn't matter as much.

In your shoes, no offense it probably greatly improved your quality of life.

Every situation is different. I am only saying if I was in that guys shoes. Not the shoes of a guy making significantly less, and even a small raise will boost his quality of life substantialy.

Nothing is black and white, lots of grey area.
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spread the wealth. gotcha
 
#35
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Vols520 said:
Well a couple of things...big difference in the amounts of money. If I can make 15 vs 20 million it probably doesn't matter as much.

In your shoes, no offense it probably greatly improved your quality of life.

Every situation is different. I am only saying if I was in that guys shoes. Not the shoes of a guy making significantly less, and even a small raise will boost his quality of life substantialy.

Nothing is black and white, lots of grey area.
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Answer this for me. If I decide to start a business and I start making a ton of money. At what point do I shut down the business so that I don't make too much to make the poor angry at me? Or, at what point would you shut it down?
 
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droski said:
spread the wealth. gotcha
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Where have I said spread the wealth in this entire conversation?

You just twist to fit the viewpoint you have. Only issue is you have made a lot of mistakes on this board in the past, so I dont' respect your opinion.

I have made it very clear the govt shouldn't have any say in what people make.
 
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getyopopcornready said:
Answer this for me. If I decide to start a business and I start making a ton of money. At what point do I shut down the business so that I don't make too much to make the poor angry at me?
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You never shut down that business. I think you are missing my point.

But good conversations nonetheless.
 
#39
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Vols520 said:
Where have I said spread the wealth in this entire conversation?

You just twist to fit the viewpoint you have. Only issue is you have made a lot of mistakes on this board in the past, so I dont' respect your opinion.

I have made it very clear the govt shouldn't have any say in what people make.
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the govt shouldn't have any say, yet you will be here to tell us what is enough money right?
 
#40
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Vols520 said:
Well a couple of things...big difference in the amounts of money. If I can make 15 vs 20 million it probably doesn't matter as much.

In your shoes, no offense it probably greatly improved your quality of life.

Every situation is different. I am only saying if I was in that guys shoes. Not the shoes of a guy making significantly less, and even a small raise will boost his quality of life substantialy.

Nothing is black and white, lots of grey area.
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Is the principle not the same? My life improved at the expense of someone else's declining.

So I guess I can say that you believe in "making too much money"?
 
#41
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droski said:
the govt shouldn't have any say, yet you will be here to tell us what is enough money right?
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No, I actually don't care. Just seems a bit heartless.

It's each person's own decision. It's up to you to determine if what you make is enough.

Not trying to be a moral authority, cuz I definitely have faults.

Just an interesting conversation. And FYI I didn't really intend to attack that bad on the last one, I was joking, but that doesn't come across on a keyboard obviously.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
Is the principle not the same? My life improved at the expense of someone else's declining.

So I guess I can say that you believe in "making too much money"?
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I've never met anyone who would decline a raise just because I got laid off and don't think I ever will.
 
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getyopopcornready said:
I've never met anyone who would decline a raise just because I got laid off and don't think I ever will.
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I haven't either and if they did I would tell them that they had lost their mind for doing it.

I am merely just pointing out in his argument that it is the same.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
Is the principle not the same? My life improved at the expense of someone else's declining.

So I guess I can say that you believe in "making too much money"?
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Personally? Yeah, I guess you can say that.

But it's a personal decision not a gov't decision. It's up for you to decide how much is enough I would say

Honestly though if I made that much money I would donate most.
 
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Vols520 said:
It's each person's own decision. It's up to you to determine if what you make is enough.
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i understand what you're saying, but unless taxing starts to decline, medical bills decrease, criminals cease to exist and people stop valuing quality of life and entertainment then I don't think you could ever make enough money.
 
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getyopopcornready said:
i understand what you're saying, but unless taxing starts to decline, medical bills decrease, criminals cease to exist and people stop valuing quality of life and entertainment then I don't think you could ever make enough money.
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I am talking abotu one scenario, obviously each situation is different.
 
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Vols520 said:
Well I would venture to guess you don't know any fortune 100 CEO's.

But what do I know?
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Maybe, maybe not. But how is the principle one bit different?

If he did his job and was entitled to it, why should he not take it?

Have you ever thought that in a company of 115,500 people (per their report) that there may have been some fat that could have been cut in the employee dept?
 
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