Obama gets religion.

#102
#102
VolsNSkinsFan said:
Jesus laid his hands on Peter and told him to build him a church. Since then every single priest can trace a hand laid on them all the way back to Jesus

About as close as we are going to get to "Legit"
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Not true. Misinterpretation.

Jesus foretold of a great apostasy. Shortly after the apostle John died, the Catholic Church was formed. Hmmmmmmm.
 
#103
#103
JayVols said:
We will disagree. I am not confessing to myself. I am confessing to God who provided an avenue to have my own personal link; thus, I have a direct lineage as a child of God- no priest required. I can understand giving advice, but I will never understand having to confess to another imperfect man. I have never read that in the Scriptures. It's not there. ALL men are imperfect (including the Pope). I confess to the infallible Son of God who intercedes to the Father on my behalf. No man can come close to comparing.
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Sounds nice. Question is, are you a better Christian for it vs confessing to someone? I'll go ahead and answer for you. Probably not
 
#108
#108
VolsNSkinsFan said:
Jesus laid his hands on Peter and told him to build him a church. Since then every single priest can trace a hand laid on them all the way back to Jesus

About as close as we are going to get to "Legit"
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THE bible states:

Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Can you point to where Christ laid hands on Peter and told him to build a church?

Can you point out where Peter was appointed a mediator between man and Christ or God?
 
#109
#109
VolsNSkinsFan said:
Confessing your sins is about accountability. You have none if you are only confessing your sins to yourself. Priests have direct lineage to "Him". Therefore confessing your sins to a priest is the closest one can get to confessing your sins to Jesus. Obviously the situation will be different when we pass away.

It's a much more spiritually rewarding experience confessing your sins to someone vs yourself. Also a priest gives you advice on how to avoid committing those sins in the future. Thus becoming a better Christian in the process

It's not about humiliation, but a teaching moment
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Who do the booty snatching priests go to?
 
#110
#110
VolsNSkinsFan said:
Sweet comment OE, glad you posted so many fact or theories, we have learned so much from you today
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No reason for me to waste my time with someone who doesnt understand his own religious system.

Trut before his enlightenment was honest about the cc. You should learn from him.
 
#112
#112
Gramps said:
THE bible states:

Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Can you point to where Christ laid hands on Peter and told him to build a church?

Can you point out where Peter was appointed a mediator between man and Christ or God?
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The context of text never points to any thing remotely hinting at it.
 
#116
#116
OrangeEmpire said:
No reason for me to waste my time with someone who doesnt understand his own religious system.

Trut before his enlightenment was honest about the cc. You should learn from him.
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Trut knows what he is talking about .

wish he starts posting again.
 
#118
#118
Gramps said:
Trut knows what he is talking about .

wish he starts posting again.
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CC Trut and I used to have dandy honest conversations.

Miss those days, OrangeSlice and you guys get us there at times though its not asvfrequent as it used to be.
 
#121
#121
What are your spiritual beliefs? The CC is not perfect, but I feel the majority of their main teaching are the best ways for living a Christian life. Ie communion, confession, baptism, etc. I truly feel someone could worship the devil their entire life, die and Jesus could walk up to him with bloodied palms and say "do you believe" and as long as they said yes, they were good to go.

I just get annoyed that people think the cc is some evil empire and act like all is well at their church
 
#122
#122
VolsNSkinsFan said:
What are your spiritual beliefs? The CC is not perfect, but I feel the majority of their main teaching are the best ways for living a Christian life. Ie communion, confession, baptism, etc. I truly feel someone could worship the devil their entire life, die and Jesus could walk up to him with bloodied palms and say "do you believe" and as long as they said yes, they were good to go.

I just get annoyed that people think the cc is some evil empire and act like all is well at their church
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Who articulated any thing remotely near the latter?

Child rape is a huge concern, no reason to skirt the issue, talk about it in an open forum and correct it.

To the former I grew up in a bastion of legalism. My child hood church was Independant Missionary Baptist until they became to liberal and went distinctevely baptist.

In short, works was the basis for a relationship with christ. In my view, this is no different than cc doctrine.

The new law specifically destroyed legalism and in its place created a personal walk with christ.
 
#123
#123
VolsNSkinsFan said:
What are your spiritual beliefs? The CC is not perfect, but I feel the majority of their main teaching are the best ways for living a Christian life. Ie communion, confession, baptism, etc. I truly feel someone could worship the devil their entire life, die and Jesus could walk up to him with bloodied palms and say "do yo believe" and as long as they said yes, they were good to go.

I just get annoyed that people think the cc is some evil empire and act like all is well at
their church
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i have never saw a church where all is well.
They all have some issues.

The problem I have with the CC is so much of its dogmas is not based on the Bible. They have these councils and simply make thing up as if it were gospel.

i don't care what church it is, if the doctrine is not based on the Bible it is teaching a false doctrine.
 
#124
#124
Gramps said:
i have never saw a church where all is well.
They all have some issues.

The problem I have with the CC is so much of its dogmas is not based on the Bible. They have these councils and simply make thing up as if it were gospel.

i don't care what church it is, if the doctrine is not based on the Bible it is teaching a false doctrine.
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I mean, to the second paragraph referencing councils, the protestant movement is not exempt. Protestants have the luxery of taking what they want to be true.

As I mentioned before, the trail of blood being cannon which is laughable.
 
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