Of Tennessee's Last 5 B-Ball Coaches, Which would you rather have....

Which Coach would you rather have?

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#151
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kiffinator13 said:
I think if you will check Hat, Milwaukee was in fact very competitive in the Horizon the year following Pearl's move to Tennessee. They had a senior laden team and made the NCAA tournament. So, I guess that kind of goes against your argument.
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What have they done the last three years? I guess that kind of goes against your argument that Tanning Bed built anything of value there.
 
#153
#153
Of these coaches, and dare I say in Vols history, has it had a better coach in than Bruce Pearl. Consistent success, wonderful crowds, exciting play, national recognition...all Bruce Pearl characteristics that have never been associated with Tennessee Basketball. No offense to any of its prior coaches.
 
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kxtop said:
Of these coaches, and dare I say in Vols history, has it had a better coach in than Bruce Pearl. Consistent success, wonderful crowds, exciting play, national recognition...all Bruce Pearl characteristics that have never been associated with Tennessee Basketball. No offense to any of its prior coaches.
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Since you extended it to Vols History, not sure about the "better coach" thing (way too subjective for me) but we had a blast as students going to watch Ray Mears teams. We had carnival like stuff (warmups), packed and vocal crowds (in a 12,700 seat Stokely), and real exciting games to watch. Even before Ernie and Bernie. The KY game at home was an event that stood the town up and it seems more times than not Ray's team sent us home happy with a victory. You can't really compare NCAA tourney accomplishments to now because only 1 conference team got in then until it was bumped up to two for Ray's last two years.

I will never forget the 1977 UK win. That was 1982 Bama and/or 1998 FL football-esque. Still the most spectacular UT basketball event I have ever been associated with.
 
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#155
#155
This is a silly thread. A better thread would be, who is better ray or bruce.

If we are all throwing on our vote though, I'm going with Buzz.:)
 
#156
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hatvol96 said:
He certainly played in Charlottesville this past weekend. If he grows up, Tennessee has one of the 15 best players in the class.
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Can someone tell me what the hell is wrong w/ his character?
 
#157
#157
As a UK fan I'm sure I dont have as much insight about this as you guys, but seems to me that Bruce Pearl has re-created the Vol program, you guys went from being average to being a contender for the SEC crown every year! Bruce Pearl was my vote!
 
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Cat_fan54 said:
As a UK fan I'm sure I dont have as much insight about this as you guys, but seems to me that Bruce Pearl has re-created the Vol program, you guys went from being average to being a contender for the SEC crown every year! Bruce Pearl was my vote!
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Yes true, and while I'm not a big fan of Pearl, voting for O'Neill over Pearl is incompetent. O'Neill might be a good coach, but he hasn't shown it. And like I said, Pearl is great either, but he's better than O'Neill. You can't go wrong w/ the records.
 
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zjcvols said:
Yes true, and while I'm not a big fan of Pearl, voting for O'Neill over Pearl is incompetent. O'Neill might be a good coach, but he hasn't shown it. And like I said, Pearl is great either, but he's better than O'Neill. You can't go wrong w/ the records.
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These statements are just ignorant. Then again, what should I expect? Ignorance is what the basketball forum is all about.
 
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emainvol said:
These statements are just ignorant. Then again, what should I expect? Ignorance is what the basketball forum is all about.
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Haha. On UK message boards, its the oppostite! The basketball forum is the center of all activity, and there is plenty of ignorance on the football forum!
 
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emainvol said:
These statements are just ignorant. Then again, what should I expect? Ignorance is what the basketball forum is all about.
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how are my statements ignorant? I said i'm not a big fan of Pearl, but Pearl is better than O'Neill. There are a lot of better coaches than Pearl, yes, and i'm intrigued to see what we could get it if Pearl left. Yet, the records show across the board that Pearl has been a better coach than O'Neill.
 
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IPorange said:
I've been to catspause. It's idiotic all over.
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I dont go to catspause. But on the basketball forums you'll probably find the most knowledgable fans in college basketball. You might not like what they have to say, but they know what they're talking about!
 
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Cat_fan54 said:
I dont go to catspause. But on the basketball forums you'll probably find the most knowledgable fans in college basketball. You might not like what they have to say, but they know what they're talking about!
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I've seen nothing but Sweet 16 and Elite Eight predictions over the last few years, to no avail. Sure, now that UK will be good the predictions of final fours and championships aren't insane, but it's clear that the "predictions" remain the same, regardless of the team.

Kentucky has some very delusional fans. It won't come out as much this year since they will be good, but in reality it's no different than the kooky football predictions.
 
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IPorange said:
I've seen nothing but Sweet 16 and Elite Eight predictions over the last few years, to no avail. Sure, now that UK will be good the predictions of final fours and championships aren't insane, but it's clear that the "predictions" remain the same, regardless of the team.

Kentucky has some very delusional fans. It won't come out as much this year since they will be good, but in reality it's no different than the kooky football predictions.
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#167
#167
zjcvols said:
how are my statements ignorant? I said i'm not a big fan of Pearl, but Pearl is better than O'Neill. There are a lot of better coaches than Pearl, yes, and i'm intrigued to see what we could get it if Pearl left. Yet, the records show across the board that Pearl has been a better coach than O'Neill.
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Again, ignorant. Even if you are right and Pearl is a better coach, looking at records and only records doesn't prove anything. Hell if you are just looking at records then Tommy Amaker is a better coach than Kevin O'Neill. You know what you would call someone that made that claim? A f***ing idiot.
 
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emainvol said:
Again, ignorant. Even if you are right and Pearl is a better coach, looking at records and only records doesn't prove anything. Hell if you are just looking at records then Tommy Amaker is a better coach than Kevin O'Neill. You know what you would call someone that made that claim? A f***ing idiot.
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Okay, you make a good point. Yet O'Neill has had his chances. What can you prove to say that O'Neill is a better coach than Pearl? That the idiot left UT and went to Northwestern and that was unfair? Yeah, NU is a hell-hole for basketball, but he left UT after four years. He did nothing in those four years at UT. He has done nothing afterwards. Look, If O'Neill was has good of a coach as some as said, I would see it somewhere. One sweet sixteen w/ Marquette proves nothing.
 
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#169
zjcvols said:
Okay, you make a good point. Yet O'Neill has had his chances. What can you prove to say that O'Neill is a better coach than Pearl? That the idiot left UT and went to Northwestern and that was unfair? Yeah, NU is a hell-hole for basketball, but he left UT after four years. He did nothing in those four years at UT. He has done nothing afterwards. Look, If O'Neill was has good of a coach as some as said, I would see it somewhere. One sweet sixteen w/ Marquette proves nothing.
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When was this fourth year at UT everyone keeps babbling about that KO coached played?
 
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#171
zjcvols said:
Okay, you make a good point. Yet O'Neill has had his chances. What can you prove to say that O'Neill is a better coach than Pearl? That the idiot left UT and went to Northwestern and that was unfair? Yeah, NU is a hell-hole for basketball, but he left UT after four years. He did nothing in those four years at UT. He has done nothing afterwards. Look, If O'Neill was has good of a coach as some as said, I would see it somewhere. One sweet sixteen w/ Marquette proves nothing.
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I understand where you are coming from, I just don't like the "his record is better" argument. O'Neill has inherited some really terrible situations, there aren't many coaches out there that would have done any better, and I don't think that Bruce is one of them, so I'll take O'Neill.
 
#172
#172
emainvol said:
I understand where you are coming from, I just don't like the "his record is better" argument. O'Neill has inherited some really terrible situations, there aren't many coaches out there that would have done any better, and I don't think that Bruce is one of them, so I'll take O'Neill.
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In KO's defense, your completely right. The situations he has been in has beent terrible. And your right, I shouldn't use the "record is better" argument. O'Neill, for many reasons, has not stayed long enough anywhere to judge him completely. Defensively, he's great, I just don't think he's a guy to run a program. I take Bruce, and while Bruce has many flaws, he still is a good coach. Do I think he matches up w/ the Calhoun's, Coach K's, And Roy William's? Hell no, he never will. But neither will O'Neill.
 
#173
#173
Not that I care one way or the other about who is a better coach, but wouldn't you need something measurable that you can compare to help in the argument of who is a "better" coach?

For example:

-Wins
-Wins against common opponents.
-Wins in a certain time period.
-NCAA appearances
-Wins in NCAA Tournament
-Wins against Top 25 Opponents
-Recruiting

If not, it just seems like there is a bunch of opinion and bias being tossed around. Or, maybe we can collectively come up with a super-computer system similar to the BCS in determining who is the better coach.:)
 
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