Official Brexit Referendum Discussion

#453
#453
Burhead said:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ewRNSfyiI[/youtube]

Farage giving the finger to the EU is wonderful. Frick I would vote for him if he were eligibility for the Presidency.
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One of the best political moments of what has been a miserable generation of authoritarian government abuse.

This vote certainly does draw a line between those who support freedom and those who back top-down rule by an organization of unelected bureaucrats.

If the European Union were actually run by intelligent people instead of a petulant child whose Nazi slip is showing (Juncker), then they would be able to get the message and return to being a trade association enabling free markets across Europe.

It has evolved into a regulatory authority more obsessed with the shape of bananas and what Cornishmen can call a turnip than with the free trade it was originally set up to facilitate.
 
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#454
#454
Also Britain's FTSE 100 index recovers all losses from Brexit. Like a lot of people said. The pain would only be temporary.
 
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#457
#457
FTSE 100 has recovered, but it will go back down if uncertainty remains. Sterling still has ways to go to recover losses.
 
#458
#458
Burhead said:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ewRNSfyiI[/youtube]

Farage giving the finger to the EU is wonderful. Frick I would vote for him if he were eligibility for the Presidency.
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He speaks well and is a populist, but read the UKIP election manifesto from a few years back. It was the most clueless and contradictoray manifesto I have ever read.

Remember this, UKIP has more success in the Labour heartlands than among traditionally Conservative constituencies.

Once you learn more about Farage you'll realize he's an amateur.
 
#464
#464
Obsessed said:
Because they exist
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agreed, but he seems to think that no nation ever gets to exhibit free will. said as much in this thread, which is why he was thinking the bankers would win and they would Remain.

the opposite/much lesser extent of control is why I thought Britain would leave. because the guys behind the curtains aren't 100%/vast majority in control.
 
#465
#465
LouderVol said:
agreed, but he seems to think that no nation ever gets to exhibit free will. said as much in this thread, which is why he was thinking the bankers would win and they would Remain.

the opposite/much lesser extent of control is why I thought Britain would leave. because the guys behind the curtains aren't 100%/vast majority in control.
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The thing is, Britain hasn't left. Like the other countries that don't toe the globalist line, they will be portrayed as the enemy of democracy, when in fact, the opposite is true. The banker controlled media will not allow power to be in the hands of the people...hide and watch!

Every trick, every demonizing and manipulative effort will be on display in the upcoming months in order to reverse the will of the people...in fact, it's already happening.

My money is on them never leaving...
 
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Pacer92 said:
The thing is, Britain hasn't left. Like the other countries that don't toe the globalist line, they will be portrayed as the enemy of democracy, when in fact, the opposite is true. The banker controlled media will not allow power to be in the hands of the people...hide and watch!

Every trick, every demonizing and manipulative effort will be on display in the upcoming months in order to reverse the will of the people...in fact, it's already happening.

My money is on them never leaving...
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I wouldn't put money on it but if I was betting on another vote I would say they win with more than 52%. The EU has shown its true color to an extent and I think after some of the things said and done, a national pride is more evident.

also scotland after being rejected by the EU may also vote more in favor of leave now. not a big switch but a couple percentage points.

I would love to have Alex comment and see if any of what I said he is experiencing.
 
#467
#467
I'll try and make it as clear as I can, based on the information I know.

The Conservative Party are having a leadership election - which will be completed on the 9th of September. David Cameron has made it clear that he will not trigger Article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon - which will begin the Brexit process - and that this duty will be given to the new Conservative Leader/Prime Minister.

Right now I see it as a two horse race for the Conservative leadership between Boris Johnson and Theresa May (there are other candidates such as Liam Fox, Jeremy Hunt and Stephen Crabb, but they are long shots). I believe that if either Boris or May are elected they will begin the process of the UK leaving the EU in earnest.

As one of the 150,000 Conservative members in the UK, I am supporting Theresa May. She has been Home Secretary for the past six years and was a tentative 'Remain' supporter. She is seen as a steady hand and a someone who could unite the party and the country. We need stable leadership at this time. An article in The Times tomorrow will outline her ambitions and states that she will appoint either Fox, Boris or Gove (all Brexit supporters) as 'Minister for Brexit' if she is elected leader. A general election is also unlikely with May as PM.

Let me make this point clear, all of the viable candidates to be PM are committed to implementing the democratic will of the British people for a Brexit. Chancellor Merkel also made it clear that she sees no way out of this referendum result.

There has been no reliable or compelling information to suggest that a Brexit will not happen.
 
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alexmanu said:
I'll try and make it as clear as I can, based on the information I know.

The Conservative Party are having a leadership election - which will be completed on the 9th of September. David Cameron has made it clear that he will not trigger Article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon - which will begin the Brexit process - and that this duty will be given to the new Conservative Leader/Prime Minister.

Right now I see it as a two horse race for the Conservative leadership between Boris Johnson and Theresa May (there are other candidates such as Liam Fox, Jeremy Hunt and Stephen Crabb, but they are long shots). I believe that if either Boris or May are elected they will begin the process of the UK leaving the EU in earnest.

As one of the 150,000 Conservative members in the UK, I am supporting Theresa May. She has been Home Secretary for the past six years and was a tentative 'Remain' supporter. She is seen as a steady hand and a someone who could unite the party and the country. We need stable leadership at this time. An article in The Times tomorrow will outline her ambitions and states that she will appoint either Fox, Boris or Gove (all Brexit supporters) as 'Minister for Brexit' if she is elected leader. A general election is also unlikely with May as PM.

Let me make this point clear, all of the viable candidates to be PM are committed to implementing the democratic will of the British people for a Brexit. Chancellor Merkel also made it clear that she sees no way out of this referendum result.

There has been no reliable or compelling information to suggest that a Brexit will not happen.
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they don't need it, and will explain why with a helpful youtube video from the Kremlin.
 
#469
#469
Sorry to interrupt but another classic performance from MEP Daniel Hannan - this one about why vote Leave

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJcuKfcxo9w[/youtube]
 
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Pacer92 said:
The thing is, Britain hasn't left. Like the other countries that don't toe the globalist line, they will be portrayed as the enemy of democracy, when in fact, the opposite is true. The banker controlled media will not allow power to be in the hands of the people...hide and watch!

Every trick, every demonizing and manipulative effort will be on display in the upcoming months in order to reverse the will of the people...in fact, it's already happening.

My money is on them never leaving...
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When you can yank the floor out from under the pound, which the banks can obviously do, then you can punish the country and leave them little prospect but failure. It's a twist on an old play - we'll take your ball and go home."

Control of the world took a hard turn when currencies were floated.
 
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bronco104 said:
More fun with Christiane Amanpour... an interview with Daniel Hannan.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivOOM0PbNps[/youtube]

‘Outrageous’: British MP Slams CNN For Their Biased Coverage of Brexit That Painted Them as Racists
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Perfect example of how the globalist controlled media tries to construct their own narrative with demonization, infantile interruptions and bullying from government mouthpieces..

They will not let the people speak. Precisely why the Brits are fed up...
 
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#473
#473
If the "globalists" really wanted the UK in the EU they wouldn't have allowed the vote to stand, so either the conspiracy doesn't exist or the Brexit is a part of the plan.
 
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jvol1 said:
If the "globalists" really wanted the UK in the EU they wouldn't have allowed the vote to stand, so either the conspiracy doesn't exist or the Brexit is a part of the plan.
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It will sink our economy. That very well could be part of the plan.
 
#475
#475
jvol1 said:
If the "globalists" really wanted the UK in the EU they wouldn't have allowed the vote to stand, so either the conspiracy doesn't exist or the Brexit is a part of the plan.
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Remains to be seen. It is no conspiracy that the globalist are for remaining in the bloc. They have made that clear. Brexit hasn't been initiated yet...
 
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