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Grand Vol said:
Starting the new job today.

Central Staffing Coordinator for one of the health care outfits out here.
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Do this.

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DinkinFlicka said:
State your case.
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imo: BBQ as a noun means pork. BBQ didn't really catch on from the native form, until the british introduced pigs. historically in the US this is how it found prevalence, especially in the south. Pork was preferred because a pig was cheaper to buy, and easier to maintain in the poor south. you could let pigs go if you couldn't afford to feed them your self and they would take care of themselves. A cow has pretty much always been the most expensive meat, especially in time considerations, and if things are lean you can't let them forage on their own. pigs are also pretty ubiquitous across the nation, while cow would be limited to the more plains regions, and the wealthier (generally) families. I don't think one can ignore the often destitute nature, slaves, swamp folks, mountain folk, etc, of those who historically created what we consider the BBQ process. the limited financial means was one thing that set bbq apart and made it so special, and the expense of a cow was typically beyond their means.

considering the typical usage of the noun BBQ outside of the south includes grilling a hot dog or burger, I would say the distinctive cultural separators from the south would be the ruling qualifier for what is bbq or not.

BBQ started out as smoking a whole animal (pig), with minimal processing. usually just removing the innards, but not skinning. pigs you can do that. chicken you have to pluck, and cows you have to skin. cows are also a lot bigger and pretty difficult to smoke the flavor all the way thru a minimally prepared cow.

now it is valid to use BBQ as a verb for chicken, cow, gator, what have you. but the historical noun usage would tend to lean towards "pork". but again this would lean towards smoking the meat rather than cooking directly with flame.

it should also be noted that saucing the meat with anything but its own cooked juices would also lean away from the historical usage of the term. dry rubs or wraps would be historically more accurate with the natives wrapping in various leaves, and herbs.

jmo, but anyone who disagrees it just plain wrong.
 
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LouderVol said:
imo: BBQ as a noun means pork. BBQ didn't really catch on from the native form, until the british introduced pigs. historically in the US this is how it found prevalence, especially in the south. Pork was preferred because a pig was cheaper to buy, and easier to maintain in the poor south. you could let pigs go if you couldn't afford to feed them your self and they would take care of themselves. A cow has pretty much always been the most expensive meat, especially in time considerations, and if things are lean you can't let them forage on their own. pigs are also pretty ubiquitous across the nation, while cow would be limited to the more plains regions, and the wealthier (generally) families. I don't think one can ignore the often destitute nature, slaves, swamp folks, mountain folk, etc, of those who historically created what we consider the BBQ process. the limited financial means was one thing that set bbq apart and made it so special, and the expense of a cow was typically beyond their means.

considering the typical usage of the noun BBQ outside of the south includes grilling a hot dog or burger, I would say the distinctive cultural separators from the south would be the ruling qualifier for what is bbq or not.

BBQ started out as smoking a whole animal (pig), with minimal processing. usually just removing the innards, but not skinning. pigs you can do that. chicken you have to pluck, and cows you have to skin. cows are also a lot bigger and pretty difficult to smoke the flavor all the way thru a minimally prepared cow.

now it is valid to use BBQ as a verb for chicken, cow, gator, what have you. but the historical noun usage would tend to lean towards "pork". but again this would lean towards smoking the meat rather than cooking directly with flame.

it should also be noted that saucing the meat with anything but its own cooked juices would also lean away from the historical usage of the term. dry rubs or wraps would be historically more accurate with the natives wrapping in various leaves, and herbs.

jmo, but anyone who disagrees it just plain wrong.
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