Official Greg Roman Thread

#101
#101
WallyBalls said:
Wife is from Kingston or something like that.

Sans Gruden, I'm starting to warm up to Roman paired with Jim Leavitt.
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I wouldn't mind Roman, if he could get Derrick Mason, Stanford's current DC (who has NFL coaching experience as well), to come along. I've been totally impressed with Stanford's defense the past few years. Less size, talent and overall speed than what we have, yet has them playing lights out. Didn't think anyone could stop Oregon this year. They did. Thought surely USC would finally put a hurting on Stanford this year, with Barkley and the two stellar WR's they have. They didn't.

I would prefer Patterson behind Gruden, but Roman or Josh McDaniels might make some sense after that.
 
#102
#102
Roman is very high on my list. If the guy is getting looks for an NFL HC position, you know he's pretty good at what he does.
 
#103
#103
Instead of going for a mediocre head coach (golden) or one that hasn't proven himself (strong) if youa re going to take a risk take one on a hot NFL coordinator! Roman has my vote I think the fans will rally behind a dark horse candidate!
 
#109
#109
I like the Roman option. My concern, which has also been expressed in this thread, is when could he take the job? Late January at earliest? Wouldn't that kill recruiting? Can I possibly ask four straight questions?
 
#110
#110
I love the idea of Roman. I think he is the next Gruden and I think the Harbaughs are going to create fantastic coaching trees.

I do not want him to retain Chaney. I like Chaney a lot but Roman is an offensive coach. Let him put in his own staff together. Especially the OC.

I would be fine with retaining Pittman and Graham because Graham recruits and I think with the way the OLine obviously feels about Pittman he is going to become a great asset, but that should be his decision.
 
#111
#111
WebbCobb said:
I like the Roman option. My concern, which has also been expressed in this thread, is when could he take the job? Late January at earliest? Wouldn't that kill recruiting? Can I possibly ask four straight questions?
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I think given the current state of our recruiting class, if he didn't want to be saddled with little more than 2-3* recruits in his first class, he'd have to bow out immediately, in order to get a foot in the door with some of the current big fish prospects (who have been considering us), before the Dec. 17th deadline. Recruiting goes into a dead period until after the new year. He also needs time to get his staff into place and out recruiting ASAP. I think Josh McDaniels is another possible prospect. He does have experience as a Head Coach, although not a good one. What is most concerning about him is all the personnel moves, that got him behind the 8 ball. He wanted to trade Cutler for Cassell, and let go both Brandon Marshall and Hillis.

It's hard to argue with his experience at the Patriots. He's definitely got the X's and O's down. Saw that on display early in the year against the Titans.

Another guy that get's no attention, is Kevin Gilbride (Giants OC). Guy has been a successful OC everywhere he's been (Houston Oilers back in the 90's....ran the infamous Run N Shoot with Warren Moon), and he has more Superbowl rings on his fingers than Gruden does.

He could be had for half what we're offering Gruden, and as soon as recruits realize we got the OC from the Giants, sporting 2 Superbowl rings, I'm pretty sure their ears would perk up.
 
#112
#112
Probably my no 2 if there isn't a home run Gruden-type. Won't be too enthused or give any more money until proven that he can be successful though.
 
#113
#113
VOLorNuttin said:
I think given the current state of our recruiting class, if he didn't want to be saddled with little more than 2-3* recruits in his first class, he'd have to bow out immediately, in order to get a foot in the door with some of the current big fish prospects (who have been considering us), before the Dec. 17th deadline. Recruiting goes into a dead period until after the new year. He also needs time to get his staff into place and out recruiting ASAP. I think Josh McDaniels is another possible prospect. He does have experience as a Head Coach, although not a good one. What is most concerning about him is all the personnel moves, that got him behind the 8 ball. He wanted to trade Cutler for Cassell, and let go both Brandon Marshall and Hillis.

It's hard to argue with his experience at the Patriots. He's definitely got the X's and O's down. Saw that on display early in the year against the Titans.

Another guy that get's no attention, is Kevin Gilbride (Giants OC). Guy has been a successful OC everywhere he's been (Houston Oilers back in the 90's....ran the infamous Run N Shoot with Warren Moon), and he has more Superbowl rings on his fingers than Gruden does.

He could be had for half what we're offering Gruden, and as soon as recruits realize we got the OC from the Giants, sporting 2 Superbowl rings, I'm pretty sure their ears would perk up.
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Boy, you like the Ray Perkins tree.
 
#114
#114
I won't be happy with him if he's hired. I just see him turning into another Charlie Weis.
Also his resume isn't all that impressive, maybe I'm missing something but I just don't see anything there thats impressive.
We've all seen what happens to Sabans assistants when they leave, we've seen the same thing from Bill Belichicks assistants. For every oe assistant under a big coach that suceeds, theres hundreds that flop. Not a chance I'm willing to take with the program being where it is and how important this hire is.
 
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#115
bam15 said:
Boy, you like the Ray Perkins tree.
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I just think it would be a good idea to consider either one of them, because the No.1 thing Gruden has going for him isn't the MNF gig. It's the Superbowl ring.

I remember when I enlisted in the Army and started basic training in Ft. Benning GA (Infantry), our CO had a Ranger Tab on his left shoulder, above the Unit patch. Until the day I graduated Ranger School and got my own, I revered everyone I saw who wore that tab. It inspires confidence in those who serve with and under them.

So, for a HS football player, when you see a coach walk into your living room and have supper with you and your folks, wearing 2 Superbowl rings....you have that same level of respect and reverence for the man.

Beyond that, Gilbride is a very sharp individual. I lived in Houston when he was the OC for Jack Pardee, and the Run N Shoot was sort of revolutionary at the time. I also recall his success while he was the OC at JAX, cause his offense made it tough on the Titans.
 
#116
#116
JFBanicki said:
I won't be happy with him if he's hired. I just see him turning into another Charlie Weis.
Also his resume isn't all that impressive, maybe I'm missing something but I just don't see anything there thats impressive.
We've all seen what happens to Sabans assistants when they leave, we've seen the same thing from Bill Belichicks assistants. For every oe assistant under a big coach that suceeds, theres hundreds that flop. Not a chance I'm willing to take with the program being where it is and how important this hire is.
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Not true. Every successful HC started as an assistant and had to work their way up....regardless of whose tree it was.

Just because Charlie Weiss flopped doesn't mean we should measure every NFL Coordinator by his failures. That's precisely what you are doing. There are coordinators in the NFL who succeed as HC's and some who do not. There just isn't a massive pool of successful HC's whom we have a legitimate shot at hiring away. That's why we are all consumed with a former HC who had some success, instead of one who currently is.

What do you mean his resume is not all that impressive? He's been successful as an OC everywhere he's been, and he has 2 Superbowl Rings to show for it...beating the Patriots, no less! What freakin more do you want?
 
#117
#117
I can't remember the guy's name but 104.5 has had him on a few times about coach searches. He is a Cal insider and has hinted several times but didn't come out and say it at least that Cal is going to go all in to get Roman. So the possibility of him leaving for a college job is out there. Since he already lives in the Bay area Cal does seem kind of likely. However if there is anything to the wife from Morristown or Kingston then who knows.
 
#118
#118
VOLorNuttin said:
I just think it would be a good idea to consider either one of them, because the No.1 thing Gruden has going for him isn't the MNF gig. It's the Superbowl ring.

I remember when I enlisted in the Army and started basic training in Ft. Benning GA (Infantry), our CO had a Ranger Tab on his left shoulder, above the Unit patch. Until the day I graduated Ranger School and got my own, I revered everyone I saw who wore that tab. It inspires confidence in those who serve with and under them.

So, for a HS football player, when you see a coach walk into your living room and have supper with you and your folks, wearing 2 Superbowl rings....you have that same level of respect and reverence for the man.

Beyond that, Gilbride is a very sharp individual. I lived in Houston when he was the OC for Jack Pardee, and the Run N Shoot was sort of revolutionary at the time. I also recall his success while he was the OC at JAX, cause his offense made it tough on the Titans.
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Oh, I know Gilbride is good. Anyone who can work under Coughlin for that long has to be good. I've seen some of his clinics and he has meshed his old stuff with Perkins terminology. We still see Switch/choice/streak all the time. That doesn't make for the best representation of a program though. Gilbride really isn't a fired up, battle roar guy any more. I'm bias because I'm a Pats guy and have studied these systems. It's not much different than what Josh runs.

Josh is iffy. Some people missed him when he left Boston, others believe it or not, didn't. One-dimensional as hell until this year. Works hard, film rat, grew up in this system. He would resonate with recruits because of the age and his attitude. I think having Bill (O'brien) come in and add a bunch of Nascar packages opened his mind a ton. He never got close to that before. Can actually run the ball now with Ridley. He's good, don't get me wrong, but I've also never seen anyone fail with Brady. We're talking about the brightest quarterback in the game here. It's been an evolution from the dumbed down Weis version largely under-center to the no-huddle "Sight read/Alerts/CWM" all over the map game. Point I'm making here is this system that both of them run is very taxing. This is why we're seeing recycled players.

What Gilbride and Josh do is add option routes based on leverage of backers. Add this with the hot on strong-side, sight-adjust on back side and you have a mess for a college athlete. And we aren't talking about run&shoot - 3x1/2x2 formation only with 5 plays. You've got numbered formations with a zillion protections. (50s slide/60s dual-read/70s empty slide/80s 7-8 man/100s/200s/300s/400s/500s

Like seriously = Half (11) 0 out slot 64 opeq read 'alert' h 40 --- that isn't easy when you've got the Mike Leachs of the world calling "6" for a play.

Whatever the hell Bill did in Penn St. I'm impressed.

The 20-hour week bullshiz in college is a totally different animal for these guys.
 
#119
#119
And I'm not saying that only applies to those guys. I have the same doubts about Gruden and a ton of these pro coaches.
 
#120
#120
A name I have heard picking up steam is Greg Roman. I know Hart stated he wanted HC experience as his next candidate, but what if Vols hired this guy? He is a Harbaugh disciple. His name has been mentioned with several vacancies.

Supposedly as per Hyams and other media outlets, Gruden is out as consideration to be UT's next coach, so I just wanted to see what others on Volnation thought about the possibility of Greg Roman.
 
#121
#121
I like this but, how good of a recruiter was he at Stanford and how much does he effect that 49ers offense? Isn't Harbaugh pretty involved in calling plays?
 
#122
#122
I have lost hope on Gruden but I do think that Greg Roman would be a good hire. As I've said before there are a lot of names I can think of that are worse that are supposedly on our list.
 
#124
#124
Brak said:
I have lost hope on Gruden but I do think that Greg Roman would be a good hire. As I've said before there are a lot of names I can think of that are worse that are supposedly on our list.
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Like Fedora for instance? What has he truly done.

I dont want Tressel or Butch Davis, both have pasts with NCAA compliance issues and both left messes for their prospective schools to deal with
 
#125
#125
rockymountainvol said:
Like Fedora for instance? What has he truly done.

I dont want Tressel or Butch Davis, both have pasts with NCAA compliance issues and both left messes for their prospective schools to deal with
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Not here to promote Fedora, but read his bio and his body of work.
 
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