Official Jon Gruden Thread II (merged)

[Obsessed]

He is an attorney. Leave it alone.

Easy there turbo. I was just asking.

 

[SweetBlackMagic]

I would think about it differently. Haslam OWNS the Browns now. Which means he makes money from the franchise. He doesnt make any money off of UT, in fact he gives money (loses money) to UT.

He is a very smart business man and if he feels like Gruden is the right man to manage his new investment and make him more money then thats where he would prefer Gruden to be.

That's not a slight to UT, its just being a good businessman.

Good point...I just feel that if Gruden really wanted an NFL job, he would've taken another by now. Hopefully he's sick of the egos and sees CFB as the only "challenge" that would satisfy him.

 

[RagingOrange]

Lets just say almost every coach and "high ups" in the AD deal with my company for a certain need and leave it at that. I really cannot think of a better way to put it without being obvious. That's why the 3pm thing someone posted yesterday surprised me because there was something we had to get done by 3pm involving a need for something that would point to someone new coming aboard. I know that's vague, but the only way I know to put it.

I have a strong idea about what it is. I'll leave it there.

Seriously, youre in a sensitive position I think and nobody needs to ask any more.

 

[JayVols]

The Cleveland Browns new GM (Joe Banner) is VERY involved. Not sure Gruden is interested in that.

I beg to differ. Randy Learner was a horrible owner. There is no way Gruden would have coached for a guy who didnt give two sh*ts for the Browns.

Haslam is a whole different animal for Cleveland now.

Why would they "ask" Mike Holmgren to "retire" if they were going after Gruden? Holmgren is one of Gruden's mentors, and dear friend. Keeping him would have raised their chances of landing their target exponentially. I don't see Gruden as the type of guy that would step on his mentor's toes like that.

 

[Obsessed]

Good point...I just feel that if Gruden really wanted an NFL job, he would've taken another by now. Hopefully he's sick of the egos and sees CFB as the only "challenge" that would satisfy him.

This.

 

[hohenfelsvol]

Hookers?









J/k Thanks for the info you bring :thumbsup:

Too funny. Great minds.

 

[TheDude]

This comes from someone I know that is VERY tied to the program -

"Good to hear from you. Hope you and family are doing ok. Yes the offer is on the table. On the front page of the News Sentinel today, the cost to buy out all of the coaches including Coach Dooley was documented. The announcement will come after the South Carolina game if there is one. Coach Gruden is yet to sign the offer. It is 5 years @ 5.5M a year. If he signs it Dooley is gone before the end of the season. There is a lot of upset people here as can imagine. They are playing bad but what is worse is their lack of basic fundamentals. Dooley has not helped himself in the community. He comes across as a bit arrogant and full of himself. Personally I like him but he is a bit different and not very engaging. My best to all."

Just my $.02.

No this does not come from the ticket booth or the janitor. Just my contribution to the cause of better UT football.

 

[volprof]

Sabans salary has changed the game in college if you wanna win.

I also think that Saban changed things in the sense that it is now probably considered a bit more fashionable for a NFL coach to go the college route, whereas that used to be considered a downgrade.

 

[GBOvols1]

I'm sorry if it came across coarse. It was not my intention. I was simply trying to answer your question.

No problem, I sure alot of other posters come off upset, but I m not that way I appreciate all info that is brought to the board. Thanks for replying.

 

[kohlrums]

Possibly Meyer as well...the next "tier" would be Stoops, Miles, Spurrier, and Brown probably. Regardless, a certifiable Top Five coach in terms of "branding" would be HUGE.

With an even playing field of talent Gruden could outcoach these guys in his sleep. He will be the biggest name to come back to college since Saban.

I'll give you Meyer, but coaching in the Big Ten takes you down a peg nowadays. It's checkers.

 

[voldawgforever]

Anyone heard from Skeeter lately??

 

[hog88]

Well, it's double from a total money standpoint...not the length. A contract like that will greatly increase the pressure and scrutiny on him, but I guess that's what you sign up for. The only bright side is that no one will be calling for his head after three years...regardless of record.

Really? There better be vast improvement after 1 for that kind of money!

 

[SweetBlackMagic]

Question most of us agree if it cost 5 mil a year to get Gruden we do it. What if he says (insert NFL team) is offering 6 mil. Do we pony up for 7? Or at that point do we search elsewhere?

I don't think his overall NFL success is enough to garner that type of money, but you never underestimate a desperate billionaire

No doubt the current players and the next few years of recruiting classes will run through a wall for him...if he's able to come in and knock off some rivals and/or ranked teams within three years, UT football would be ROLLING (pun intended).

 

[VolMaster14]

I also think that Saban changed things in the sense that it is now probably considered a bit more fashionable for a NFL coach to go the college route, whereas that used to be considered a downgrade.

Mack Brown got the big payday, then Saban. It's only going to continue to go up. Nature of the beast.

 

[bcartervol98]

Too funny. Great minds.

That was college and grad school. My nickname WAS NOT Gator though.

 

[SweetBlackMagic]

Really? There better be vast improvement after 1 for that kind of money!

I just think once you ink the deal that it's gonna take to bring him here, not even the Haslams could afford to pay the buyout...especially if it's 8 years.

 

[TOP]

Anyone heard from Skeeter lately??

I saw him comment on Austin Nichols a day or two ago.

I'm not sure I've seen him chime in on Gruden.

 

[murz]

Mack Brown got the big payday, then Saban. It's only going to continue to go up. Nature of the beast.

this

these salaries are only going to continue to rise, it's just how it is

 

[kohlrums]

Why would they "ask" Mike Holmgren to "retire" if they were going after Gruden? Holmgren is one of Gruden's mentors, and dear friend. Keeping him would have raised their chances of landing their target exponentially. I don't see Gruden as the type of guy that would step on his mentor's toes like that.

Because he has run Cleveland in the same manner a clown would for the past 2 years. Oh, and he wouldn't step up on the RG3 trade, who is kinda awesome. Not good on the resume.

 

[BeecherVol]

Dang. You gettin' a cut of the new deal?

:yes:

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

Nature of the beast.

Truth. And at this point we gotta be Grude"ZILLA".

 

[JayVols]

Just out of curiosity what type of work are you in? (Generally). If you don't mind

 

[Godfatha]

I would think about it differently. Haslam OWNS the Browns now. Which means he makes money from the franchise. He doesnt make any money off of UT, in fact he gives money (loses money) to UT.

He is a very smart business man and if he feels like Gruden is the right man to manage his new investment and make him more money then thats where he would prefer Gruden to be.

That's not a slight to UT, its just being a good businessman.

It's been discussed before. Owners of pro sports teams buy them because they are playthings for the owners, not because they make money. Haslam could probably invest his billion somewhere else and get much greater returns than what he will with the Browns.

Perhaps Haslam, along with Thornton and others, just loves UT, and wants to see us win.

 

[OCIVol]

Way to go out on a limb.

Cyber stalker IMO

 

[hohenfelsvol]

:yes:

Beecher's buyin