Official Jon Gruden Thread VI

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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I am certainly not one of the Grudski fanatics, But at this point I do beleive he is the guy that could excite, and unify our fractured fanbase. I just hope if he comes that I have been wrong about my misgivings.
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Rucker, you are always wrong. Why would you suddenly be right about Gruden? BOOOM!!!
 
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bcartervol98 said:
He said he doesn't think he will put up with all the BS that a coach has to put up with to coach at Tennessee and will stay 1-2 years and be gone. Don't shoot me, I do not agree with him.
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Rather have Gruden for two than Dooley for three. I think I will go with Mannings opinion on this one...since he's buyin.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
He said he doesn't think he will put up with all the BS that a coach has to put up with to coach at Tennessee and will stay 1-2 years and be gone. Don't shoot me, I do not agree with him.
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But that's exactly why Gruden is option 1,2,3,4,5. If Gruden is hired, the BS disappears almost instantly.

More than anything, Gruden unites the entire fanbase as much as has ever been the case. Even in 1998 there were plenty of fans who didn't think Fulmer was that good of a coach, just a great recruiter. Not only does he unite the fans, but he unites the boosters as well. If the boosters and fans get their man, it will pressure the the university, specifically Hart and Cheek, to stay out of Gruden's way, or be out of a job very quickly.

Former players and most in the AD don't realize how bad things are on the university side. There's been uneasiness on the financial side for a month or more now - something is going on. I'm sure the BOT and boosters heard of the university's problems, but I doubt they believed them until the Governor was elected and started directly hearing details from lots and lots of people on the inside how bad things were. Finally Nashville had someone who was a Knoxville insider who understands East TN politics. I know I've blamed the BOT on here for a lot, but when important university people spend time in meetings trying to figure out how to keep information from them, it's not just their fault. Then the Pat Summit/Debbie Jennings thing happened.

This is why I tend to believe everyone on here that the Gruden rumors are true. The AD and university have already screwed enough up. The boosters and BOT aren't letting them do it anymore. It's not like Cheek wants to deal with this anyway - he doesn't. I'm sure Hart doesn't like to be treated like a child, but he's not stupid. If UT lands Gruden, Hart will get the credit, which will boost his stock tremendously even though he didn't have much to do with it.

Basically, the power brokers, IMO, finally know the truth and know that fixing the entire university starts with this coaching hire.
 
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patrick said:
Not calling you out just questioning your post. In particular "If Gruden is still the main target, and I fully believe he is, then the moment Dooley is announced a microphone goes into his face at every opportunity forcing him to comment. Right now his comment is "Tennessee has a coach"."

I want Gruden to be the next coach at UT but some of the reasons for the cloak and dagger routine do not pass muster. For example, if Dooley was fired and Gruden had agreed to become the next HC at Tennessee why could Gruden not finish out MNF?

He does have a contract with MNF so wouldn't it be right for him to finish out season?

On a side note the fact that dooley is still the coach gives me no confidence that UT will win either one of their next two games. He is inept and his players have no respect for him whatsoever!
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I agree with all this. The players hung out all afternoon waiting to hear an absolute yesterday that never came. Any report that the players all have been told in any sort of team meeting is false. I heard it all afternoon and evening yesterday, but today that rumor has proven 100% false.

I truly believe Dooley has been told, and he may have told a player or two but there was no team meeting with Hart yesterday unless two that I know the families of were left out of it.
 
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vol494 said:
Man he sure does.
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I like and respect T. Fair for having worn the orange but sometimes he has the mentality that he just wants to focus on the next game..well you are on a talkshow now and not everyone wants to talk about the next game. In fact many of us would MUCH rather speculate on our next coach.
 
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The former players also are living in the past. They basically want Fulmer 2. The problem is that ship has sailed in college football for the most part. Gruden will not come here and then leave the university hanging. He will be here as long as it takes to turn the ship around and be successful, then he will bolt. As long as he gets the program back to championship caliber, who really cares, because at that point they can go out and hire anybody to be replace him.

The former players probably also like Cutcliffe or Fulmer, which I've said I'm not crazy about but would be the best realistic choices after Gruden to stabilize the program and fix the university issues. However, both of those options are potentially more temporary than Gruden because of their age.
 
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LurtzVol109 said:
Gonna repost while i got some other "inside info" people here, i have two confirmations on the notes ive taken, still e-mailing for more confirmations on my notes, lurtz109@yahoo.com

Looking for DTO, OldVol, etc. Giving copies to any who ask, will post after more confirms.
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I simply don't care. No offense.
 
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Wilson27 said:
I like and respect T. Fair for having worn the orange but sometimes he has the mentality that he just wants to focus on the next game..well you are on a talkshow now and not everyone wants to talk about the next game. In fact many of us would MUCH rather speculate on our next coach.
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I feel the exact same way.
 
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