Official Jon Gruden Thread VI

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One thing I will say...don't shoot the messenger...but if Petrino...I wouldn't expect to hear anything until announced. Please don't take this the wrong way. I firmly believe he is part of the contingency.
 
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So here is food for thought...What happens if Dooley's new focus on the defense leads to our defense playing lights out? We win the last 3 games and a bowl game by big margins, by offense scoring 35+ and the D keeping each team to 14 or less...What happens then?
 
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WriterVol said:
This is what swings me back to Strong. I'm not enamored by his record at Louisville considering the competition they've played. That said, it's not a detraction either. But being a defensive guy, he can really help this team right now. Give him a good OC, and we're in business.

My number one attribute for a college coach is recruiting. I think he'll do well there as well. I think there are a lot of coaches that would be in good position to move UT forward, and I number Strong among them.
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I understand the need for Defense, but we cannot hire a coach because of a present need... What we have today is because of Dooley.

You hire a coach based on his overall work. Defense, offense, recruiting etc. Strong may fill that bill, but not sold yet jmo
 
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kohlrums said:
Yep. I'm just tired of seeing his name in these lists. He isn't leaving his alma mater-especially when they almost played for the national title last year.
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Guy I work with graduated from there. I was kidding him and said "your man-coach might be a Vol". He said "no way Uncle T-Boone lets that happen".
 
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gardners_51609 said:
So here is food for thought...What happens if Dooley's new focus on the defense leads to our defense playing lights out? We win the last 3 games and a bowl game by big margins, by offense scoring 35+ and the D keeping each team to 14 or less...What happens then?
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dooley takes interest in the defence the week we play the 112 ranked defense.
 
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Lexvol said:
One thing I will say...don't shoot the messenger...but if Petrino...I wouldn't expect to hear anything until announced. Please don't take this the wrong way. I firmly believe he is part of the contingency.
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I believe there is some big money backing for this as well.
 
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Lexvol said:
One thing I will say...don't shoot the messenger...but if Petrino...I wouldn't expect to hear anything until announced. Please don't take this the wrong way. I firmly believe he is part of the contingency.
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Dang.... you know how to stir the pot don't you! JK
 
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gardners_51609 said:
I have heard SF 49ers OC Greg Roman and OKST coach Mike Gundy, mentioned by a few insiders in this thread as possible top 5 options...And ESPN keeps saying that Petrino and Gundy are in the top 5...IDK if anyone really knows...
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I like Greg Roman but would he be considered a home run hire? Thoughts?
 
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Lexvol said:
One thing I will say...don't shoot the messenger...but if Petrino...I wouldn't expect to hear anything until announced. Please don't take this the wrong way. I firmly believe he is part of the contingency.
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Could get him on the cheap and we have a record of trying to do that.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
My position on Strong is this. It doesn't matter what he has or hasn't done at nowheresville. He is a great defensive coach, which is what we need. We don't need to shore up the offense, it is doing great. Strong is very well respected among HS coaches in UF. He would be able to recruit to UT, players that would not consider UL. DEFENSE WE NEED DEFENSE.
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I agree about the defensive mindset because defense wins ball games, but remember when this Offensive Line graduates, we may have more offensive problems than defensive. Think back to when they were all freshmen starting their first game together. We need a coach that will see to it that all parts of the game are stronger ( think kicking, running game, ect. ).
 
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smokeyhuntsgators said:
I like Greg Roman but would he be considered a home run hire? Thoughts?
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I think he would untimately get the job done, but I am afraid anyone in the shadow of Gruden will be considered a lame duck hire. I think this may also be a reason that a lot of names will come out in the media. The AD doesn't want Gruden to seem like Plan A and everone else Plan B. Hart wants them all to seem like Plan A's fo the sake of our program...
 
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Coastypop said:
I understand the need for Defense, but we cannot hire a coach because of a present need... What we have today is because of Dooley.

You hire a coach based on his overall work. Defense, offense, recruiting etc. Strong may fill that bill, but not sold yet jmo
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I completely agree, which is what pushed Strong down my list to start with. I'd like a longer list of head coaching accomplishments, but the defense angle keeps him in play for me.

I also think the situation with the erosion of fan support has made a transition a must rather than an "if we get the right guy" kind of situation, but that's just my opinion. I am curious what a defense-minded coach would do at UT. Strong would be somewhere in the middle of my list.
 
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Lexvol said:
With Auburn moving in the same direction, it may not be as cheap as it should be. I really have no idea.
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This is where I would draw the line. If you can't get him for a bargain then let the Barn have him. He does not deserve the opportunity to waltz back into a high paying job. If hired, he would have morality clause and a huge buyout for him to leave.
 
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For me it has always been
1. Gruden
2. Stoops
3. Strong

All three would recruit lights out here. Anybody else, with the possible exception of Patterson, we are in wait and see mode in regards to recruiting.
 
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gardners_51609 said:
I have heard SF 49ers OC Greg Roman and OKST coach Mike Gundy, mentioned by a few insiders in this thread as possible top 5 options...And ESPN keeps saying that Petrino and Gundy are in the top 5...IDK if anyone really knows...
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This is probably the most accurate thing posted on any of these threads.
 
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WriterVol said:
This is what swings me back to Strong. I'm not enamored by his record at Louisville considering the competition they've played. That said, it's not a detraction either. But being a defensive guy, he can really help this team right now. Give him a good OC, and we're in business.

My number one attribute for a college coach is recruiting. I think he'll do well there as well. I think there are a lot of coaches that would be in good position to move UT forward, and I number Strong among them.
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You really cant judge the record of a coach at a school like Louisville. Strong is a very good Coach and recruiter and Louisville was in aweful shape when he arrived. Take Saban at Mich St for example. He did absolutely nothing at Mich St, yet LSU saw something and hired him then after losing to UAB on yr he wins a NC. Strong imo would be a great hire. He's defensive minded and I think he could recruit and win here.
 
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volatil said:
This is where I would draw the line. If you can't get him for a bargain then let the Barn have him. He does not deserve the opportunity to waltz back into a high paying job. If hired, he would have morality clause and a huge buyout for him to leave.
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If he is as ego driven as I suspect, I also wonder if he would be willing to share the state of Alabama with Saban....especially if another option is available.
 
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gardners_51609 said:
I think he would untimately get the job done, but I am afraid anyone in the shadow of Gruden will be considered a lame duck hire. I think this may also be a reason that a lot of names will come out in the media. The AD doesn't want Gruden to seem like Plan A and everone else Plan B. Hart wants them all to seem like Plan A's fo the sake of our program...
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Makes sense to me..Thanks.:salute:
 
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Lexvol said:
For me it has always been
1. Gruden
2. Stoops
3. Strong

All three would recruit lights out here. Anybody else, with the possible exception of Patterson, we are in wait and see mode in regards to recruiting.
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Stoops really intrigues me. Can we pull him?
 
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