Official Jon Gruden Thread VII

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Having someone like La Canfora talking about this finally has me convinced. He doesn't throw stuff out there to see if it sticks-he paid his dues as a beat reporter for years in DC. He's old school.

That's what I keep hearing from my D.C. friends. Me likey!!!!!
 
Gruden is no Kiffin. He has much higher standards of behavior for himself.

agree, and even if he did take off after 2 or 3 years, I believe he would leave roster loaded and program much better off. He could even possibly have groomed his successor on staff (J. Bates perhaps), which would be smooth transition for Vols.
 
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Too soon!
 
Could the possibility of the Gruden to UT date bring 12/17/12 have anything to do with that being the MNF game in Nashville?

That is part of the reason that is the targeted date for the press release to be released.

That way ESPN can have an interesting storyline for that game and Gruden can have his fairwell broadcasts but not drag it out over months of rumors, denials and drama.
 
What's your take on the whole - Gruden won't take a job until its available arguement?

If true wouldn't it be in UT's best interest to pull the trigger on dooley rather than wait?

I guess I am just aprehensive that if he really felt that way then there is no way he would be in negotiation at this point...




Patience

SOON
 
For a couple reasons.

1. Everyone is hoping that this team can make a bowl game. We need the practices and the revenue.

2. Gruden wants his interest in the Tennessee position to not be the reason Dooley was/is fired. The only fair way to evaluate Dooley is to give him every opportunity to prove/not prove himself. So far the plan is playing out like many thought, Dooley would coach himself out of the job and make this a much easier transition.

3. Gruden wants to finish out his MNF tenure with as little "job drama" as possible. The longer Dooley is in his post at TN the longer he doesn't have to answer questions about where he will coach or if he will take the job.

He won't be in the UT coaches offices working until after his MNF commitment is over.

I am believing the information I've heard that he will be announced as our next head coach the week of his last broadcasts.

I just think the best way to get rid of the drama would be for him to accept a college position. The drama only ramps up more and more if NFL teams that appear to need a new HC continue to lose, and he is still listed as an available coach looking for work. That stops if his is on the hook for TN-even if he continues to work in the booth.
 
What's your take on the whole - Gruden won't take a job until its available arguement?

If true wouldn't it be in UT's best interest to pull the trigger on dooley rather than wait?

I guess I am just aprehensive that if he really felt that way then there is no way he would be in negotiation at this point...

Here are my honest Grudenite thoughts:
1. The news got out way earlier than was intended.
2. The only way to keep Gruden from having to answer direct questions about the job is to retain Dooley.
3. The only way to keep Petrino or any sitting coach from publicly telling UT "no" (even if they weren't approached) is to keep Dooley.
4. If it is Gruden we are on his announcement time table...which means it makes sense to keep Dooley.
5. I think Gruden has given a list of demands, and that those have been answered with "yes"

These are my thoughts on the timing, and what has happened to this point.

I could be wrong....but I don't think I am.
 
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Patience

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All of us in the dark that are hoping and praying for light at the end of the tunnel can't help it. Unlike a few of you who seem to know or have inside info, it's hard to hang on without feeling stupid since realistically the odds would seem quiet low. Still hanging by a thread.
 
Here are my honest Grudenite thoughts:
1. The news got out way earlier than was intended.
2. The only way to keep Gruden from having to answer direct questions about the job is to retain Dooley.
3. The only way to keep Petrino or any sitting coach from publicly telling UT "no" (even if they weren't approached) is to keep Dooley.
4. If it is Gruden we are on his announcement time table...which means it makes sense to keep Dooley.
5. I think Gruden has given a list of demands, and that those have been answered with "yes"

These are my thoughts on the timing, and what has happened to this point.

I could be wrong....but I don't think I am.

Thank you sir - you are good people...:hi:
 
That's what I keep hearing from my D.C. friends. Me likey!!!!!

And The Post has good beat reporters, but no one nearly as good as La Canfora since he left. I was happy for him when he took the job at the NFL Network, but as a Redskins fan I was bummed because he was the best source of information-a tireless reporter who took no sh!t from Redskins park, and anyone that follows the Redskins knows that is no easy task. Snyder all but cut-off The Washington Post a few years ago, and La Canfora still got news out.
 
Here are my honest Grudenite thoughts:
1. The news got out way earlier than was intended.
2. The only way to keep Gruden from having to answer direct questions about the job is to retain Dooley.
3. The only way to keep Petrino or any sitting coach from publicly telling UT "no" (even if they weren't approached) is to keep Dooley.
4. If it is Gruden we are on his announcement time table...which means it makes sense to keep Dooley.
5. I think Gruden has given a list of demands, and that those have been answered with "yes"

These are my thoughts on the timing, and what has happened to this point.

I could be wrong....but I don't think I am.

Really good speculation IMO
 
- Poster on VQ. LaCanfora was an analyst for the NFL network. Posters on VQ said that he is their go to guy for a lot of injury reports and inside info a la Adam Schefter for ESPN. (EDIT: Now works for CBS Sports) SIAP, TIFWIW

Good to hear positive info coming from the outside.
 
And The Post has good beat reporters, but no one nearly as good as La Canfora since he left. I was happy for him when he took the job at the NFL Network, but as a Redskins fan I was bummed because he was the best source of information-a tireless reporter who took no sh!t from Redskins park, and anyone that follows the Redskins knows that is no easy task. Snyder all but cut-off The Washington Post a few years ago, and La Canfora still got news out.

Hail yaya...mutha foka
 
I just think the best way to get rid of the drama would be for him to accept a college position. The drama only ramps up more and more if NFL teams that appear to need a new HC continue to lose, and he is still listed as an available coach looking for work. That stops if his is on the hook for TN-even if he continues to work in the booth.

But you are not thinking about the other two variables.

Letting Dooley coach out the season to give him a full 3 years to prove/not prove himself.

Hope we make a bowl.

And wanting to distance himself from the Dooley firing.

If Dooley isn't going to be fired till the end of the season (which has always been the plan) then Gruden/TN knew that wouldn't take place till the end of November.

They aren't going to turn around the next week and hire Gruden because that would portray that Gruden helped force Dooley out.

They want a realistic gap. And what better way to announce then to coincide it with his last week on MNF three weeks after Dooley is canned?
 
Here are my honest Grudenite thoughts:
1. The news got out way earlier than was intended.
2. The only way to keep Gruden from having to answer direct questions about the job is to retain Dooley.
3. The only way to keep Petrino or any sitting coach from publicly telling UT "no" (even if they weren't approached) is to keep Dooley.
4. If it is Gruden we are on his announcement time table...which means it makes sense to keep Dooley.
5. I think Gruden has given a list of demands, and that those have been answered with "yes"

These are my thoughts on the timing, and what has happened to this point.

I could be wrong....but I don't think I am.


I share the same thoughts Lex. No need to create a circus.
 
I didn't really believe this stuff until I called my people in Knoxville who have ties to the boosters. Now, I can't help but believe he's gonna be here.
 
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