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#9,727
Wow! I just read this entire thread. I have been sick this entire holiday weekend and this has kept me going. I appreciate all the opinions and debates on here. I don't know who has the "solid" info and who doesn't. I don't know who is going to be our next coach...I just know that I want us to get the best hire for UT. I know that UT football is over for 2012 and if this is what we have to look forward to til the next hire, it is going to be one hell of a ride and I'm excited to be on it. Although, for some of you it may be in the best interest of your health to step away for a while.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Alot of things would come into play with that decision. 5 million plus VS 2 million plus for 1. Hart has fought very hard to gain control over the AD. I find it hard to believe he is just going to all a sudden hand that over to a guy because it's part of his contrat demands. Smart has recruited at the highest level in the SEC. All we can do is hope Gruden could. I get alot of people want the rockstar, that does not mean he is the best choice.

For the record, I would make Patterson and Petersen tell me NO before I even made Gruden an offer.
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Yeah but you didnt say anything about money in previous post. You talked about winning. Logically people would put a greater % on gruden winning than they would smart. I dont get the whole peterson thing. He has won yes but at boise st. They were good before he became head coach. Yeah they knocked off a couple good teams but thats different than playing in the sec. What makes you think he can recruit in the sec? Im not saying he is a bad coach just think he is far from a sure thing.
 
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#9,729
#9,729
I'm still full gruden until another coach is standing at the podium. Not that my opinion matters much.


But the man thing is not to get excited.



Keep calm and Gruden on!!!
 
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Orange Blazer said:
I think Gruden is a great coach and would be a very good to great recruiter. The question I want answered is this. Why would he want to? He is a coach who wants full control. He will hate the 20 hr practice rule. He doesn't have to put up with any if that in the NFL.
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I may be wrong (I usually am), but I believe the new NFL collective bargaining agreement limits coach/player interaction time in a manner similar to CFB. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken. That obviously doesn't mean he would prefer college to NFL, but it would seem to close the gap between the two, IMO.
 
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Volfan615 said:
Chavis and Coach Cuts records speak for themselves.

Saban gave us Sal and Dooley..
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Fulmer: 1 HC at a crappy school and 1 career coordinator.

Saban: Jimbo Fisher, Will Muschamp, Mark Dantonio, Jim McElwain, Mike Haywood.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want another Saban coach, but to argue that Fulmer surrounded himself with or developed better coaching talent is laughable.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Says who? If smart were given the 4 million dollars, who knows what kind of staff he could assemble. I think the talk was about Zook or Morris at 1.5 million bucks. Would Chavis return for 1.25 million to work with Smart? Who knows.
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Smart is not worth the 4 million on his own, the people he could bring in to work under him will not be of the same caliber. That's just how it works.
 
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Orange Blazer said:
I am far from an insider. Never claimed to be. I have a relative who is a big donor at UT but he won't say a word. He has a stadium named after him at UT. I ask him for hints and he just laughs and shakes his head. That is by I believe all the insider people are FOS. Not trying to be arrogant, but I can see how it can come across that way on a message board.
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Okay I get it but how are you any different than any other person who is giving info? They have just chosen not to divulge their source of info and you just did. In reality, you don't know any more than the rest. Until JG is standing with Dave Hart in front of the black Verizon banner being announced everyone is speculating. So it's a waste of time for you or anyone else to give out certainties. Just sit back and watch it play out. JMO.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Alright. Season over. Now the test begins.

I have to think that if Gruden really is a done deal that he will be announced tomorrow or Monday simply to get him out on the recruiting trail ASAP. I believe 100% that he can quit MNF any time he wishes. Contracts mean nothing, recruiting means everything.

If he is not announced by Monday then I have to fall into the camp that no deal has ever been "done" with Gruden officially, unofficially or otherwise and that there is an honest-to-God coaching search happening and UT has no clue who they will be hiring.

Just my opinion, but that's where I'm gonna stand. Hoping for a Gruden announcement VERY soon.
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Agreed.
 
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BruinVol said:
That's BS unless you want to tell me why the AD allowed him to report on the Sunday After the Missouri game he had been fired....


I am waiting for your response
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Not trying to get in the middle of a pissing contest,but the firing was known well before that....:hi:
 
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"No one will hold me to it. That's the line of the day. The reality is that Hart has interviewed anyone yet. He hasn't offered the job to anyone yet.

I think it's going to be a slow week in terms of news because a good number of guys he wants to talk to will play next week and I don't think he will do anything interview wise till the regular season is over.

I have said, that I think Stoops, Fisher, and Golden are guys he wants to talk to. That's not the only three, but that's three that I believe Hart will try to visit with."

-Hubbs
 
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CoachClick said:
Have we forgotten that another entity is involved here in the Gruden "process".

He is currently employed by the largest sports media in the world and I'm pretty darn sure we are on their timeline, not the opposite.
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If we do get Gruden, I wonder how nice ESPN will be to our program?:whistling:
 
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crparker21 said:
Yeah but you didnt say anything about money in previous post. You talked about winning. Logically people would put a greater % on gruden wining than they would smart. I dont get the whole peterson thing. He has won yes but at boise st. They were good before he became head coach. Yeah they knocked off a couple good teams but thats different than playing in the sec. What makes you think he can recruit in the sec? Im not saying he is a bad coach just think he is far from a sure thing.
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The reason I would hire Petersen is because he wins. It's that simple. I understand he wins in a conference that is not the SEC. He also does not have SEC players. He is a big time proven winner. He has taken his Boise teams and played right with teams loaded with 4-5 star talent. Petersens winning would help him recruit in the SEC. I have no doubt alot of great assistant coaches would love to coach at UT with Petersen as HC. Give Petersen 4 million bucks to hire a staff and we would be a contender in 2013 I have no doubt.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Alot of things would come into play with that decision. 5 million plus VS 2 million plus for 1. Hart has fought very hard to gain control over the AD. I find it hard to believe he is just going to all a sudden hand that over to a guy because it's part of his contrat demands. Smart has recruited at the highest level in the SEC. All we can do is hope Gruden could. I get alot of people want the rockstar, that does not mean he is the best choice.

For the record, I would make Patterson and Petersen tell me NO before I even made Gruden an offer.
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First bold is interesting considering where Hart came from.

Smarts recruiting has consisted of, "Hello, Im Nick Sabans DC at Alabama"
 
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wtnvol said:
Wow! I just read this entire thread. I have been sick this entire holiday weekend and this has kept me going. I appreciate all the opinions and debates on here. I don't know who has the "solid" info and who doesn't. I don't know who is going to be our next coach...I just know that I want us to get the best hire for UT. I know that UT football is over for 2012 and if this is what we have to look forward to til the next hire, it is going to be one hell of a ride and I'm excited to be on it. Although, for some of you it may be in the best interest of your health to step away for a while.
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Like x10. It's ridiculous up in this mutha...
 
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vmivol00 said:
Fulmer: 1 HC at a crappy school and 1 career coordinator.

Saban: Jimbo Fisher, Will Muschamp, Mark Dantonio, Jim McElwain, Mike Haywood.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want another Saban coach, but to argue that Fulmer surrounded himself with or developed better coaching talent is laughable.
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Yeah your right... how did we ever win a NC with all the laughable coaching talent.
 
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slammingseth said:
"No one will hold me to it. That's the line of the day. The reality is that Hart has interviewed anyone yet. He hasn't offered the job to anyone yet.

I think it's going to be a slow week in terms of news because a good number of guys he wants to talk to will play next week and I don't think he will do anything interview wise till the regular season is over.

I have said, that I think Stoops, Fisher, and Golden are guys he wants to talk to. That's not the only three, but that's three that I believe Hart will try to visit with."

-Hubbs
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I don't believe that at all. This info is just AD smokescreen IMO.
 
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Jimmy Tongue N Cheek ‏@jcheekbullgator
Congrats and many thanks to all the senior football players. Please pursue your degree and announce for TN on Monday night football #gvetp
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does anyone know what "gvetp" means/stands for/is an acronym of?
 
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