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If Gruden signs with us then No one should ever give Hubbs another cent.

Sarcasm?

If not, then pretty extreme.

Hubbs has been very careful in his career to not make the mistake of being first to report and then lose credibility because he was wrong.

I respect that and cannot fault him for taking that position.

Hubbs built his reputation and following by covering recruiting, not head coaching searches. I think Brent has earned some leeway here - people need to chill.
 
Can someone tell me why, if Gruden is in fact a done deal, Hart would not go ahead and go public with this thing? I don't remember reading a satisfactory answer. If you say, "they are hashing out some minor details" then you are saying it's not a done deal. Right?
 
Decent point really. USC has better players now than UT and they have an excellent class coming in next year. Of course I hate saying all of this. But...

Sad but true if we lose out because Hart was content to play with himself while the losses kept piling up under Dools. They said Fulmer should've been fired after 2005, well Dooley should've been fired after 2011. If that was too soon, it was obvious after Miss State this was going nowhere. Or after Bama mauled us for the millionth time in a row.
 
I was told to look to hear something Sunday or Monday this was on Monday and haven't heard any different since

Thanks. That's the kind of extra little snippet I was referring to. It was like you just randomly dropped by as if you'd heard something good and wanted to check the mood in the thread.
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Can someone tell me why, if Gruden is in fact a done deal, Hart would not go ahead and go public with this thing? I don't remember reading a satisfactory answer. If you say, "they are hashing out some minor details" then you are saying it's not a done deal. Right?

You probably should read the replies to my similar questions. Save yourself and others a lot of trouble.
 
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Can someone tell me why, if Gruden is in fact a done deal, Hart would not go ahead and go public with this thing? I don't remember reading a satisfactory answer. If you say, "they are hashing out some minor details" then you are saying it's not a done deal. Right?

If it is done and finalized it will be announced within a week. If it has been kept under wraps it was out of respect for the team finishing out the season this week.
 
Can someone tell me why, if Gruden is in fact a done deal, Hart would not go ahead and go public with this thing? I don't remember reading a satisfactory answer. If you say, "they are hashing out some minor details" then you are saying it's not a done deal. Right?

Could be dozens of reasons.

Maybe Gruden doesn't want it public yet.
 
Sarcasm?

If not, then pretty extreme.

Hubbs has been very careful in his career to not make the mistake of being first to report and then lose credibility because he was wrong.

I respect that and cannot fault him for taking that position.

Hubbs built his reputation and following by covering recruiting, not head coaching searches. I think Brent has earned some leeway here - people need to chill.

If he is being played by the AD then why would you pay for that???? If Gruden signs here, then he has been played.
 
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@DINOCOSTA u still confident about Gruden to Vols #volfaninneedofgoodness

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@rcjakesvols Confident in the sense that the job is his and he knows that already...if he chooses to take it is the question.
 
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Hubbs and Co. have a job to do. A major part of that job is to make their employer happy, just like everyone else. Their employer is the UTAD. Hiring and firing of coaches takes a really healthy portion of public relations. There's a timeline that needs to happen through all of this. If Hubb's is aware who the new coach will be and shares that information to his subscribers before his boss wants him to he will find himself out of a job soon after. Does that make sense? So he needs to dodge questions, tell stories and wait it out until the time is right, per his bosses.

I'll give you an example. There was a recruit who announced for UT a few months back (I forget who it was) and VQ had made a video well in advance of his commitment before telling anyone that this would happen. So, guys like me were on VQ asking, "Is so and so going to be a Vol?" And Hubbs and co. would respond with, "Not really sure. It looks good but only time will tell. Blah blah blah" Meanwhile they had already made a video of that recruit's verbal announcement to UT. And waited until the recruit wanted them to release it.

I believe the same thing is going on here with "the coaching search".

Thanks for the response. While I don't agree with it, I do appreciate your opinion. Seems a little weird to me that Hubbs could be all forgiven at the last minute, but others in the Knoxville media are regularly blasted for being wrong or late with any information.
 
If he is being played by the AD then why would you pay for that???? If Gruden signs here, then he has been played.

Maybe because the people that pay for Brent's site are mainly interested in recruiting?

I for one hope we don't have another coaching search for at least 10-15 years.
 
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Per Hubbs, Dave Hart has not spoken to Gruden & doesn't plan on speaking to him. He is NOT an option as HC.

All of this talk about a deal being in place ect is all Booster driven & Hart has nothing to do w/ it.

Okay that makes absolutely zero since when there are plenty of others sources saying that there have at least been talks between the two parties.

1. The biggest hoarder of inside info in history
2. A troll trying to get more listeners
3. A media member who was told by the AD to cool the Grumors
4. An idiot
 
Hubbs last line.... "hasn't gone that far in HART'S pursuit of Gruden." Well Hubbs can try to convince me it isn't Gruden but don't try to tell me this guy that has been here 13 months and has only 1.9 million in reserve has ANY authority on who our next coach is. Hart can come in at the last minute and act like he is the closer but that doesn't mean he has the power.
 
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Read that jmoore said that Dave Hart has never talked to Gruden and does no intend to do so. He said that Gruden is not an option.
 
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