Official Jon Gruden Thread XII

[jefferson]

This guy that is on the Basilio show says that the state's best high school recruits all said they would consider playing for Gruden. His name would be an amazing recruiting boost.

 

[VOLracerx]

No worries. There's nothin to hide.

I'm not sure exactly how to define what I was told...it was vague. But without assuming and only guessing...yes, loyalty to not only his role, but the people he works with, the network, all the above.

Thanks - just wanted to clarify - at first it read that maybe he had some deeper more negative issues.

:hi:

 

[Majorvol23]

Cool, thanks guys, figured it was the other other site, ha

 

[CountVolcula]

In both cases. Either mattress burning in disgust or mattress burning in celebration.

If we hire Gruden, my mattress may catch on fire from friction, not intentional combustion

 

[Orange_Crush]

I think if a coach CHOOSES to move on and leave the team, they should not be entitled to anything. I mean, you want to leave me and I have to start over and now I owe you millions???? They should also have to stay until the end of the season as to not leave us in a lurch. Now if we fire a coach, I can see giving them a small compensation if due to lack of performance. That is how it works in my job..how about yours??:question:

In most (TN) jobs, it's either abiding by the contract negotiated, or it's at-will employment where either party can move on at will.

 

[Tennman73]

gruden coaching 7846863]In skeeter I trust![/QUOTE]

Unless their last name is Gruden, Hart or Haslam, there isn't anyone on VN that I would trust for reliable info. No one here has any special, secret info. This whole thread is just speculation and guessing.

 

[DD4ME]

First off, I have really liked skeeter as a source and quality poster. But I think that his sudden change of heart on whether or not Gruden is the RIGHT coach is irrational.

If Gruden was #1, and Cowher was #2. I hear what you're saying - maybe Gruden isn't the best fit for reasons x, y, and z. Ok, let's go to Cowher.

But let's be honest about the situation.

There is Gruden and then there is a freefall to option #2. It's like choice #1 for a one-nighter is an NFL Cheerleader and choice #2 is a contestant on the biggest loser... BEFORE the show starts taping.


Plan A: Gruden and very likely success.

Plan B: Planned obsolescence

Buy it or don't but assuming Jon Gruden isn't making irrational demands when more than just skeeter have hinted at this is a bit naive.

We'll all know soon enough. Not in the detail we'd want and maybe not the results we'd want but we'll know soon enough. What worries me is that this presumed booster money in the 6-7mil per year range will vanish with a standard coaching search and we'll be negotiating with closer to 3 million per year while Arky is offering double to the likes of Miles.

 

[salutethehill]

If we hire Gruden, my mattress may catch on fire from friction, not intentional combustion

You call it your "mattress"?

 

[247VOL365]

He's genuine. He's always had good information. I assure you he's not getting his info from his 3rd cousins ex husbands daddy.

OK, I just figured you trust in Skeeter because he's saying "no Gruden," and you like being contrary.

 

[Wilson27]

"To call Derek Dooley a buffoon would be an insult to buffoons everywhere" Tony B.

 

[tmac5469]

Skeeter is good but he has missed just like everyone.

 

[CountVolcula]

You call it your "mattress"?

Our( as in my wife) not you

 

[BigOrangeD]

I mean for their official ESPN duties. I promise you Corso, and Herbstreet won't be flying commercial. ESPN get's them to their GIG on a private jet. Even the VOLS can provide this service for him. Yes, he probably resorts to commercial flights for some functions, but when you are talking about the amount of money being talked about here, McGhee Tyson is NOT the weak link in the chain. Do you think Saban worries about flying in and out of Tuscaloosa?

I see what you are saying. Someone just made the point that a bigger airport is easier to get in and out of. Some have pointed out JG on a public flight before MNF.

Some tidbit from 2007 article:

"TVGuide.com: Geez. It sounds like you need to talk to ESPN about getting your own private jet.
Herbstreit: Yeah, that would work. They do fly me privately from GameDay to the Saturday night game, but the rest of the travel is not private. If you can help me get that done, I'd appreciate it."

ESPN analyst Kirk Herbstreit previews the college football season - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com

 

[CMcEver]

That last post in the cliff notes, can we get a source? WTF

 

[Stevorino]

Buy it or don't but assuming Jon Gruden isn't making irrational demands when more than just skeeter have hinted at this is a bit naive.

We'll all know soon enough. Not in the detail we'd want and maybe not the results we'd want but we'll know soon enough. What worries me is that this presumed booster money in the 6-7mil per year range will vanish with a standard coaching search and we'll be negotiating with closer to 3 million per year while Arky is offering double to the likes of Miles.

I don't see a legitimate second choice behind Gruden.

Maybe Hart has someone out there we haven't thought of....but it is scary to think of Dooley 2.0

 

[RocEtop10uhsee]

I dont know why people listen to anyone...NO ONE knows...JS

 

[head1]

Skeeter is good but he has missed just like everyone.

Not much.

 

[247VOL365]

I love hearing these guys bash Dooley. It's NAXXT LAVEL!

 

[LaagerVol]

If she wanted to live in Knoxville, why didn't she move here anytime in the last 4 years? She has no reason to stay in Tampa if Knoxville where she really wants to be.

I'm getting weary of explaining simple crap like this to the non-critical thinkers in the crowd but here we go.........

Cindy likes Tampa. The kids like Tampa. They don't WANT to move.

Jon likes coaching. He wants to be a coach again. He will NOT be coaching in Tampa again. So..... and pay attention here.... they will have to move somewhere, wherever he lands a coaching job.

Still with me???

Finally, knowing the he will be coaching SOMEWHERE, Cindy would rather that somewhere be Knoxville, than anywhere else.

Got it now?? She wants to be in Tampa but if they have to move she would like it to be to Knoxville.

Hope that was simple enough for you to follow. Now you don't have to ask the question repeatedly. :hi:

 

[UTBasketball2]

"To call Derek Dooley a buffoon would be an insult to buffoons everywhere" Tony B.

Good Lord, the man is gone. Move on already Tony.

 

[BigOrangeD]

I see what you are saying. Someone just made the point that a bigger airport is easier to get in and out of. Some have pointed out JG on a public flight before MNF.

Some tidbit from 2007 article:

"TVGuide.com: Geez. It sounds like you need to talk to ESPN about getting your own private jet.
Herbstreit: Yeah, that would work. They do fly me privately from GameDay to the Saturday night game, but the rest of the travel is not private. If you can help me get that done, I'd appreciate it."

ESPN analyst Kirk Herbstreit previews the college football season - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com

 

[waddellba]

I love hearing these guys bash Dooley. It's NAXXT LAVEL!

They should just let it go... Dooley wasn't a great coach, but he's gone..

 

[vol66]

Ok, I get on VQ and it says "babyvol says on TOS that it's still Gruden" .... I look in the CliffsNotes and it says "babyvol says on TOS that it's still Gruden"

Each site is referencing the other, but I have yet to see the actual babyvol post ... Could someone enlighten me? ha

Original post from babyvol is on scout

 

[titanvolsfan1]

probably expecting a riot

 

[vmivol00]

Not true. Sat next to Lou Holtz at LAX a few weeks ago. He told me the story about they all call Dooley "Precious". Nickname from his mom.

I mean for their official ESPN duties. I promise you Corso, and Herbstreet won't be flying commercial. ESPN get's them to their GIG on a private jet. Even the VOLS can provide this service for him. Yes, he probably resorts to commercial flights for some functions, but when you are talking about the amount of money being talked about here, McGhee Tyson is NOT the weak link in the chain. Do you think Saban worries about flying in and out of Tuscaloosa?