Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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That won't happen.

If so, then shut down the football program. If we have halted the donations to academics to free up a large some of money to hire Mike McIntyre or anyone in the same mold then lets just call a spade a spade and be resigned to the fact that the UTAD has given up on being relevant.

They'll try to justify one of the mediocre names on our list as returning us to relevancy.
 
Have heard that one before. Not saying your lying, but I am skeptical. I've seen a lot of "insiders" on here lately. Many of them, have never posted before, yet carry the power of the all knowing. We will see which one ye be.

trust me i know what your saying and where your coming from. im on your side and im not a insider or claim to have a inside source but i did recieve some info that is interesting and will be ousted tomorrow. lets wait and see and if it turns out to be nothing then i am more than man enough to take my lumps for it. keep believing...
 
Bingo. I'm not 15 anymore. Naturals or nothing. Fakes don't do crap for me.

Don't get me wrong, I'll take a terrific pair of real boobs any day. When things start to turn south, though, I'm certainly not against some medical enhancements.
 
GahLee . . . very accurate, yet depressing, post.

Only one way is up from here...or so we thought.

It is depressing, watching two SEC teams have a play-in game for the right to dominate Notre Dame and researching some of theses candidates was sobering.
 
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trust me i know what your saying and where your coming from. im on your side and im not a insider or claim to have a inside source but i did recieve some info that is interesting and will be ousted tomorrow. lets wait and see and if it turns out to be nothing then i am more than man enough to take my lumps for it. keep believing...

But is that post earlier all you got?
 
Wow... reading the LaMonte story, its pretty wild. Some believe he was responsible for the "superfan" organizing the protest for the Browns to change management, then bam, Holmgren was hired and all of LaMonte's other clients as coaches, despite some of them performing horribly at previous jobs.
 
I honestly think our best bet is Fisher, out of the realistic candidates. He is a great recruiter, but suspect coaching, but maybe with a great staff he can do okay. I just see him as a Richt 2.0... he can get 9-10, even 11 wins a year, but he will lose the big games, and 1 or 2 games he has no business losing.

My picks are either Fisher or Strong, wouldn't be upset at either of the two.
 
OldVol, an OG, said in October that this would be the biggest deal, not in terms of just compensation but everything involved, that the NCAA has ever seen.

He also said to look for it to be done, then seem to fall through at the last minute. I believe that was Gruden III as well.

Nfl franchises are tax exempt. They are a perfect business for the super rich to invest money

But why buy them now? I thought it was odd with dooley not looking like it was going to work out , Hey honey I think I'm going to buy the browns. I still think there is a clue in here.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'll take a terrific pair of real boobs any day. When things start to turn south, though, I'm certainly not against some medical enhancements.

Droopers are bigger than the fakies. You have to love them biggins floppin around.
 
trust me i know what your saying and where your coming from. im on your side and im not a insider or claim to have a inside source but i did recieve some info that is interesting and will be ousted tomorrow. lets wait and see and if it turns out to be nothing then i am more than man enough to take my lumps for it. keep believing...

This is an anonymous board. Why not just say it? Nothing on a message board is believed anyway.

.....by most of the population
 
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trust me i know what your saying and where your coming from. im on your side and im not a insider or claim to have a inside source but i did recieve some info that is interesting and will be ousted tomorrow. lets wait and see and if it turns out to be nothing then i am more than man enough to take my lumps for it. keep believing...

Fair enough
 
UTAD has been running at about an 85% unsatisfactory level since dickey left, as far as I am concerned.

I'm not a fan of him either. He was horrible for our basketball program. Football enjoyed tremendous success, but it's not like he hired a head coach; just the Fulmer coup.
 
Maybe Lovie's plane will finally land, and we can just change the dates on the contract from three years ago and sign it.
 
My picks are either Fisher or Strong, wouldn't be upset at either of the two.

Honest to God you wouldnt be upset with Strong after being tempted with gruden, stoops, and even fisher. I would. Why is he suddenly so great? Please explain what is the draw to hire strong?
 
I'm not a fan of him either. He was horrible for our basketball program. Football enjoyed tremendous success, but it's not like he hired a head coach; just the Fulmer coup.

When UT was doing so well in the 90's, did anyone overly worry about the b-ball team? I mean I was a little disheartened, but I was still pretty ok with the world with UT in the NC title hunt most years.
 
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Maybe Lovie's plane will finally land, and we can just change the dates on the contract from three years ago and sign it.

Lovies plane met up with Randy Shannon's and Bill Cowher's plane. They will probably talk strategy for a few more years. They have a lot to talk about.
 
They'll try to justify one of the mediocre names on our list as returning us to relevancy.

Going to be a hard sell.

Honestly, all of these coaches are a considerable leap from Dooley but we shouldn't just accept that.

The Holy Grail was in our grasps it seemed and we let it go. And even if the rumors were just that, rumors, the UTAD played as large a role in them as did any media outlet or message board.

"We are not actively pursuing Jon Gruden as our next head coach".
How hard is that? Even if you're actively pursuing him with everything you've got, you have to temper expectations on such a big hire such as Gruden, if you don't, you're putting your job in jeopardy.
 
Honest to God you wouldnt be upset with Strong after being tempted with gruden, stoops, and even fisher. I would. Why is he suddenly so great? Please explain what is the draw to hire strong?

Here's the thing...I wouldn't be "excited" about Strong either, but if you'd be "upset" about him, then you're basically saying you're going to be upset with anyone.

The only thing I'm upset about is blowing the Gruden deal, and that's if it's even true that we could/should have landed him. If I tell someone who's not on VN that we should have had Gruden, they'll think I'm crazy.
 
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